The latest Galaxy poll, published in today’s News Limited tabloids, shows Labor’s lead easing imperceptibly to 56-44 from 57-43 last month. There has also been a one point exchange on the primary vote, with Labor down to 46 per cent and the Coalition up to 40 per cent.
| TWO-PARTY | PRIMARY | ||||
| ALP | LNP | ALP | LNP | ||
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Sept 24
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56 | 44 | 46 | 40 | |
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Aug 27
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57 | 43 | 47 | 39 | |
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July 30
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54 | 46 | 44 | 41 | |
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July 2
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55 | 45 | 46 | 41 | |
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June 4
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53 | 47 | 44 | 42 | |
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May 14
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57 | 43 | 49 | 39 | |
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April 23
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58 | 42 | 49 | 37 | |
Now, this isn’t fair. If you are a Liberal voter, I can see your point vis a vis The Age in general. But that then clarifies your view as a partisan one. I think The Age is wonderful for news and always has been. Sometimes, it is the only paper in the country that can be counted on to tell it like it is. I think that if you are specifically looking at today’s paper though, you have to understand the local climate down there. I live in SW Sydney but am a Victorian. I pulled up the .jpg of todays morning front page edition to see what it looked like. Melbourne lives and breathes and dies by the footy, AFL version. You can expect nothing less then footy headlines splashed all over the front page on Monday of Grand Final Week. If their online website is any indication, I am sure that the print edition covered the stories quite well, even if not on the front page.
Now, who is watching the Brownlow tonight? 🙂 We get it up here in Sydney on Fox Cable Channel 518 🙂
Tim at #194
Thanks – very interesting
Chris B.,
(apologies William but Chris hasn’t contacted me yet)
Here is the link – http://tinyurl.com/ysawmy
Ignore the items that appear on this first page (unless of course that is something you want). Pan down the left hand side menu till you read the words “Hillary Clinton” (about 1/3 to 1/2 down the page). It is a topic header and there are multiple subheadings underneath it. {If you go down one click (page down) further, note the items under “Anti Bush Last Day”} Go down about 7 or 8 more clicks (page downs) and you will see a heading “Enviroment”. Underneath that are numerous Global warming type items. Enjoy :):)
Jules, jules
When I say The Age is a worry, I mean it is a shadow of its former self. The rot set in under Smith, Gawenda, Kohler, and downsizing. And artists in charge of page layout, and kiddies in charge of sections. And b accountants. But poor old Michelle soldiers on …
This is off-topic, but where’s Glen on doctors’ ethics?
Julie. I am rusted-on Labor. No point in playing games.
Firstly your retorts to my statements fail because this person is one member yes just one rank and file member out of thousands…
Unionists makes up 100% of the ALP parliamentary party and a large chunk of rank and file members…so it is apt to tar the ALP with the Union thuggery claims…
Howard doesn’t need to call an investigation the people who ought to do it are the Queensland Police because you can’t go around stealing info on people’s medical files and then go and reveal it to journalists as what happened with it being given to Oakes…he should be punished and he should be booted from our party, such stupid idiots dont deserve to be in with a group of intellectuals…
Interesting how we’ve seen 2 backflips emission targets and the safety net only Labor’s backflip might get them some votes ours wont get squat because people dont think the Libs care about the environment…regardless of what we do…ah well such is media scrutiny in our country…meh!
Hey count yourselves lucky Labor supporters that you arent in the predicament of the Tory opposition in the UK they need 116 seats to win you need 100 less…i’ve always said it would be easier for Rudd to win this election and much harder for us to win because being in power for 12 years is a long time and people regardless of how well a party is doing in Government can just be booted for little or no reason…nevertheless i am a little PO’d about the Galaxy but hey ive got use to seeing us this far behind and anyway Howard likes being the underdog.
203,
Apologies Derek, I just misunderstood your first post :). From one rusted on Labor to another, I am sorry :). Didn’t realize I was preaching to the choir ;-D
Glen that logic is special.
War is Peace, Ignorance is Strength, Freedom is Slavery…
Logic is an interesting concept is it not Jasmine?
Glen that would have to be your working title for your retrospective on the Howard years … War is peace – Iraq. Ignorance is Strength – Howard Cabinet and Liberal Caucus. Freedom is Slavery – Workchoices.
Nicely summed up, you show gleams of brillance and then you have to write a post like 204.
Qld State Libs tearing themselves apart. Flegg (the leader) wants a by election candidate for Brissy Central, Liberal Party HQ say no. (Not a good look for the Leader).
So their good mates the Nats decide they will stand a candidate. 🙂
204 Glen Says: September 24th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
Kevin Rudd?
Glen
Address the question. Ethics. Doctors. Privacy of information.
Also, “just one rank-and-file member out of thousands …”
Why does the Liberal Party have to employ people to hand out on election day? Answer: Lack of dedicated members.
Thousands? Maybe a couple a unkempt ducks and a gaggle of brown dogs, but THOUSANDS of members. Supply proof.
And that’s just your first line …
Glen, if Howard and the Liberal Party have credibility issues it’s their problem and noone elses. Perhaps if they gave us a reason to believe them we would.
All members of the Caucus take out a token union membership as a gesture of solidarity (as do I and many other people who are not working in a unionised field). Big deal.
@204 Glen Says:
If you’re referring to the Queensland Liberal Party, the word is spelt inelectables.
“Speaking of hard to swallow, the gay smear story was leaked by a Lib,”
In his regular daily chat on (SA) ABC radio this morning Tony Wright confirmed Oakes’s statement on the Sunday program that the ‘gay’ allegation came from Lib staffers at parliament house late last year. BTW-it sounded like that wasn’t the only piece of dirt in the file.
Either Milne:
a) deliberately sought to mislead by printing the assertion it came from Labor when he knew it wasn’t tue, or
b) he was too pissed at the time to remember later who’d given him the file, or
c) maybe he was the only one in the press gallery not to get it.
My money would be on A, though you could never rule out B.
“But, who is the gay lib wot visits bath houses.”
Although Wright didn’t come right out and say so, the gist was that the allegation in BS.
http://ozelection2007.info/forums/viewtopic.php?id=676
The Nats in Brisbane Central? Bizarre. Would Liberal voters go for the Nats? They may be Coalition partners, but they are also quite different.
I also don’t get the repeated parroting about the unions – anybody who isn’t going to vote for the ALP because of that, is probably a rusted on Coalition voter anyway.
Glen,
Looking at it another way.
Peace through strength.
Strength through love
Love through sex!
in Crikey rumours, it says Howard was out politicking in Bennelong on the weekend, tagging along with a group of Asian students handing out pamphlets for him for $15 per hour.
Poor Glen, he’s working very hard at the moment to bring the Coalition perspective to this thread. 🙁
His mates Nostradamus, Cerdic Conan, Rupert, Steven Kaye, Nafe and Workingman4Howard should be backing him up with hilarious comments of their own!
Except a few of them have been banned already for being a wee bit too extreme.
It may not be in the msm but the ‘gay’ is clearly outed in Andrew Landeryou’s Blog http://andrewlanderyou.blogspot.com/.
Funny, my ‘gay meter’ had this guy tipped as gay ages ago and then I heard he was married and I changed my mind (He is from Adelaide and that could explain the vowels). Really though, I couldn’t give a fig about people’s s*xual prefs, but when they’re hypocritical you have to worry.
There is a good piece in Crikey today about the difference between Milne and Katsoukis
http://www.crikey.com.au/Crikey-Says/20070924-Crikey-Says.html. Says it all really.
I do feel sorry for Glen. But I am also thankful for his presence. He probably doesn’t realise it, but when he uses twisted logic (or rather, illogic), as in #204, he simply confirms the impression of the Liberal Party having nothing to offer except for smear and fear.
Glen, have you ever contemplated switching sides?
Noocat @ 223,
No more gay smears, please
If Howard is paying people $15 per hour on a weekend and they have not signed an agreement he should be paying them $13.74 per hour plus weekend penalty rates = $20.61.
Is the Liberal Party ripping off its own workers? 🙂
ruawake #255 – they’re on AWAs silly, or else s457 visas.
Judy @ 219
Ta. That’s one of my points. The libs have to pay to get people to hand out. Pathetic. Nothing counts unless there’s a quid to be gained. You can see it on election day, fresh-faced kids handing out for the libs – without a political thought in their brain. Not a clue. Labor idiots do it for nothing.
soozie
They are probably independent contractors. Need an ABN before the get the brochures. 😉
“Noocat @ 223,
No more gay smears, please”
Ha!
@227: In my electorate, the Liberal has volunteers to hand out HTV cards. Of course, they hand out cards that are designed to look like Greens cards, but hey, at least they’re volunteers, right?
…or work for the dole, or maybe it’s an innovative new way for students to pay off their HECS, or part of the new ‘peace corps’ gap year program from the ADF…
Yes anthony baxter @ 230
How can we forget the infamous “How to Vote Green” cards.
Labor people don’t help out during elections without some form of payment… There’s always a few sausage sangers on election night!
Apparently a one point change (with a 95% interval of what, +/- 3.5%?) is a positive sign for some members of the Coalition:
source
I mean, sure, he’s spinning, but sheesh, they could at least make an effort.
[#184
simonr Says:
September 24th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Nafe,
Socialist Forum was about socialism? I thought it was an organisation for holding members of the communist party as they waited to join the ALP. I went to the first meeting. Orchestrated is no the word.]
It is beyond belief that Australia could have a communist deputy PM in the 21st century, but it appears that is what we would have in the lovely red-headed Gillard.
Heffernan was off the mark with his barren comments, and what he should actually have been highlighting was the Gillard links to ideological bankruptcy and political terrorism.
Labor could force an election by starting a campaign all out in Liberal ‘safe’ seats that are becoming borderline. If Labor has more resources than the LNP it would cause panic and an election call ASAP.
McGauran’s a farmer. They know how to spin bulldust in to fine silk.
Ros Kelly had steak sambos when I helped her yonks ago. 🙂 But snag sizzles seem to be the going rate now 🙁
I’ve seen mention here and there about the L-NP having problems with raising money when compared to the amount the ALP has stashed away. Has anyone got more on this? With our pitiful disclosure laws, we’re not going to be able to get real information for ages and ages (and it’ll be almost useless anyway).
I’m not sure how the coalition parties are structured financially, but I could easily imagine that the various state organisations are broke. Heck, who’d donate to any of them? They’re completely useless.
This will obviously factor into the election timing – they’ll want to keep spending the taxpayers’ money advertising for as long as they can.
Possible proof of a November election?:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/24/2041516.htm
“”The Government wants to get as much as possible finalised before the election,” he (Tony Abbott) said.
“We don’t want to go to the election with unfinished business if we can help it, and this certainly is a very important piece of policy innovation.”
Under the deal the Commonwealth must take full ownership and control of the hospital by November 1, and staff will have to switch to the federal system or leave the hospital and remain with the state system. “
I have been consistently wrong about election timing. I thought he would have called it two weeks ago. He needed – and still needs – a circut breaker. The polls won’t change. The “anti” sentiment has set in. I guess he now waits till Sunday 7 Oct or Sunday 14 Oct ( it WILL be a Sunday announcement) for Nov 24.I think the delay has cost him – despite the barrage of Government advertising. It will be won by the ALP overwhemingly in Queensland ( despite the margins), South Australia,NSW and Victoria – in that order.
alpal
I agree about Qld, my “prediction” is 10-12 seats this only needs 53% TPP and I think it will be higher.
ruawake, you disagree with your own prediction?
I noticed that Downer has been given a fair whack by readers of his op-ed piece on climate change and Kyoto in today’s Government Gazette:
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/yoursay/index.php/theaustralian/comments/solutions_to_climate_not_in_kyoto
Not surprising though. Howard’s latest backflip on creating renewable energy targets is in fact a joke because it really amounts to taking credit for what the states are already doing and sticking a nice big price tag on it. Classic Howard do-nothingness dressed up for the pure purpose of grabbing a headline.
JW
No. What I said is entirely consistent. :p
[blocquote] Under the deal the Commonwealth must take full ownership and control of the hospital by November 1, and staff will have to switch to the federal system or leave the hospital and remain with the state system. [/blocquote]
Could be a Hospital without Staff 😉
Re 240,
alpal Says:
September 24th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
” I guess he now waits till Sunday 7 Oct or Sunday 14 Oct ( it WILL be a Sunday announcement) for Nov 24.I think the delay has cost him – despite the barrage of Government advertising. It will be won by the ALP overwhemingly in Queensland ( despite the margins), South Australia,NSW and Victoria – in that order.”
If you are right and he does end up announcing it on those dates, or in the intervening week, I will be most upset >;-( ….. My family will be on holidays and if it comes to that, I can see it now … no computer, limited TV, buy the newspaper every morning ….. guess if it isn’t called before we leave, I had better write down the frequencies for ABC radio for every community we are traveling through . I have a little wrap around arm band radio that will work to pick up the ABC. I know that as I use it for the cricket religiously when we are out and about over the summer.
That didn’t work Duh
blockquote dude… not blocquote.