Pennsylvania minus three weeks

Another week, another Pennsylvania countdown thread. I owe Andrew Bolt a link, so see here for a revealing view of the Gallup poll trend as the Reverend Jeremiah Wright affair fades from view.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. “There’s a new CBS/NYT poll out; but I haven’t yet seen a write-up of the campaign details. So a few nuggets, which will be followed later with a write-up at TPM Election Central.

    The internals look significantly better for Obama than Clinton. For instance, Democrats overwhelmingly think Obama’s the stronger general election candidate — 56% to 32%. On favorable vs. unfavorable ratings, Obama has the biggest net positive of all three candidates — 19%. Clinton has a net negative 1%.’

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/187250.php

    ‘The nationwide telephone poll was conducted with 1,196 registered voters, including 510 Democratic primary voters and 323 Republican primary voters. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points for all voters, four percentage points for Democratic primary voters and five percentage points for Republican primary voters. The margin is slightly higher for subsets within the sample, like white men.’

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/03/us/politics/03cnd-campaign.html?hp

  2. 150 – Pancho

    Whilst early days, it is still concerning that neither Democrat is ahead of McCain on that site. Also the recent national polls have McCain ahead of Obama. One can only wonder how much damage Clinton continues to do by refusing to drop out and preventing Obama from unifying the party and running a strong case against McCain as soon as possible.

  3. Afternoon Blugders all –
    I’m off for a couple of days so I’ll be relying on MSM- so much less interesting than you lot.
    I’m expecting that Hillary’s decline will pick up in speed, especially now Bullwinkle is pissing off the SD’s.
    Sorry to not be able to attend the inaugural PB’s pub crawl but Victoria is just way too far. Maybe we should hold an annual state by state conference. In a bar of course. And near a pool for acquabatic demos for GG.
    Have fun and will check in in the next couple of days.
    btw – my official diagnosis on Hillary’s capacity for delusional thinking and denial is that she is, in fact, officially f*cking nuts and needs serious psychiatric support as she will not cope when the time comes to defer to Obama. Which is approaching rapidly.

  4. asanque – There is simply no way that either Dem would be beaten by 100 electoral votes against McCain. I think that these three way polls are distorting the results offered, particularly in state by state contests, where Democratic people are closer to the ground and focussed on their Democratic preference. So I wouldn’t pay too much attention to what these electoral maps are showing in either instance until there is a nominee (except for the purposes of having a snipe a Finns). I think what Obama needs to do is just focus on the next three races, perform well, and give Hillary a pathway out that doesn’t humiliate her, or at least start reinforcing the narrative that he is looking beyond this contest and towards McCain.

    If you accept that the figures being shown on this electoral vote map give inflated victories to McCain, then this is probably because Democratic voters have not closed around their candidate, so Obama needs to win over those Clintonites who are still bitterly fighting at the moment. History again would indicate that they will come back when this nomination contest is over, but I think at this stage that a better scenario has Hillary forced out by logic and numbers rather than calls from Obama and his supporters. If it hasn’t cleared up and things take a turn for the nasty after NC, then it might be time to worry. For the moment though, I don’t think that Hillary’s presence, or the numbers shown on those electoral maps are a huge concern for November.

  5. A guide to how the general election will go is to look at the state of the nation polls.

    Not to put too fine a point on it, the majority thinks they’re cactus and that they’ve got serious problems.

    You can read about it here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/03/us/03cnd-poll.html?hp

    …and of course, the vast majority who aren’t bolted on Republican voters, will think long and hard about electing them to misgovern their country.

    As the article points out, the numbers are very bad, especially at the beginning of an economic turndown. Imagine where they’ll go when the official reading is negative GDP!

    McCain, meanwhile, is cranking up the time machine and taking little tours to another era, and really pressing the point that he’s from another age, is way out of touch with this one, but has had a large hand in landing them where they currently are.

    Come November, McCain will want to set the dials on his time machine to the 1960’s, and leave himself there…permanently.

  6. One more variable we can take out of the equation.

    After his keynote speech at CTIA, the annual U.S. wireless industry showcase, Edwards was asked in a question-and-answer session if he would accept the nomination for vice president.

    “No,” said Edwards, who also declined to say whether he would endorse Clinton or Obama.

  7. I am not sure which polls rate for inclusion in electoral-vote.com , but I notice that NJ, shown as narrowly Republican , has had a recent poll with Obama up by 5 vs McCain. Ohio, show as weak Republican, has had a recent poll with Obama up by 1.
    Flip those 15+20 electoral votes and Obama vs McCain looks interesting (261 vs 268).

    In fairness, those latest polls also have Hillary in front of McCain in those states, which would give 248 vs 289 electoral votes. Give Hillary Florida as well, and it becomes 265 vs 262.

    I think people predicting a huge Republican win based on the last week of electoral-vote.com maps might be in for a big surprise in November.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

  8. Quote du jour:

    “Again, we see the sad evolution of the U.S. of A. since the end of the ’60s. Then, fewer than five million people received food stamps. Now, nearly six times that number are living on them…after, what was supposed to be the biggest boom the world has ever seen.”

    The Daily Reckoning

  9. Afternoon all. I see Hillary is still billion year old carbon, and I don’t mean a diamond.
    Quick update from Byron Bay internet cafe on the “Great Southern Concession Date Challenge” – will post a list of entries on Monday when back home. Looks like 6 bottles of fine fermented grape juice so far for the winner. (Harry H, if you win I will substitute a case of the world’s best beer, Coopers Sparkling Ale.)

    Junior senator – greater time specificity needed.

    Election day in SE Qld? Sounds good, as long as that boat is not a 12′ tinnie.
    Jen – come on – it’s only $79 by air to the G Coast.

    Ferny G – Have you secured those 11 orphans from Diogenes yet?

  11. Kevin, I wouldn’t give polling figures for one nominee against McCain the time of day until the nomination is settled. The Democratic Party is too polarised at the moment for those sorts of comparisons to be made and conclusions to be drawn on what will happen in November.

    The polls I would prefer to see is Democrat v Republican (regardless of the nominee), although I know this is distorted, I think it would give a better indication of how the ongoing nomination battle is affecting their chances come November.

    I also noticed that Obama was only 1% behind McCain in Texas polling according to Electoral-Vote, and that doesn’t really seem at all likely. Kinda like polls showing Turnbull only 1% up in Wentworth I guess.

  12. Meanwhile, on McCain’s supposed great strength, whipping foreignb devils, especially Iraqis, things are going slightly less than swimmingly. Not only did the Iraqi Army fail in Basra, even with American support, but an Iranian general negotiated (ordered?) the cease-fire:

    …in recent days senior U.S. officials have backed away from the operation, which ended with Shiite militias still in place in Basra, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki possibly weakened and a de facto cease-fire brokered by an Iranian general.

    “There is no empirical evidence that the Iraqi forces can stand up” on their own, a senior U.S. military official in Washington said, reflecting the frustration of some at the Pentagon.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com:80/staff/warren_strobel/story/32337.html

    Even worse, the Iranian chappy is on the U.S. terrorist list:

    Suleimani, about whom little is known publicly, commands the elite Quds (Jerusalem) force of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. U.S. officials allege that the force is responsible for sending sophisticated roadside bombs, known as explosively formed projectiles, and other weaponry that Iran’s Shiite allies in Iraq sometimes have used to kill U.S. troops.

    Suleimani’s name appears on a U.S. Treasury Department list of individuals and organizations with whom Americans are barred from doing business.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com:80/staff/warren_strobel/story/32141.html

    And a telling insight into where the real power resides in Iraq:

    While Iran flexed its political and diplomatic muscles, the United States at times appeared to be a bystander in the crisis. The United States has more than 140,000 troops in Iraq, but little presence or influence in the south and the port city of Basra.

    “Iran showed that they could mediate this cease-fire while the U.S. has shown very little influence,” said Joost Hiltermann, the deputy program director for the Middle East and North Africa at the private International Crisis Group.

    ….Suleimani is the Iranian official who deals with Iraqi affairs. Iraqi lawmakers said that he was the man they needed to go to when it came to dealing with Sadr’s Mahdi Army militia and Iranian funding of Shiite militias.

    “Qassem al Suleimani is the person in charge of the Iraqi issue,” said an Iraqi official who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the subject.

    (My emphasis)

    Ayatollah Khomeini’s ghost must be peeing itself with delight!

    McCain’s 100 years of occupation is beginning to appear wildly optimistic. He’d better start thinking in terms of millennia.

  13. 162
    MayoFeral

    To put it bluntly Mayo, the Iranians saved Uncle Sam’s butt by quenching the fire before it really took off.

    But did the US press pay it any notice?

    Nup. In fact McCain was still doddering around the country telling all and sundry that Iran was the problem in Iraq!

    How did the ‘superpower’ implode so quickly? Breathtaking arrogance and stupidity is a powerful force, eh what?

  14. Selamat Bludgers,

    Fri April 4: Thought yesterday’s Lil Abner HillBilly one from Danziger was better.
    http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/jerryholbert;_ylt=Aja4COP602y7w8x.kNj4w6Pb.sgF

    Thurs April 3: Imbecile Training. Check out Barney’s eyes.
    http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/mikeluckovich;_ylt=ApqW04cC57rasvE2Q5PVN5JR_b4F

    Little Danae has presidential material written all over her.
    http://news.yahoo.com/comics/nonsequitur;_ylt=Aov9cd2HHPN5A8uf1TbmsTvd.sgF

  15. 164
    Enemy Combatant

    Hey Ecky, that last one is closer to the truth than you’d like to imagine. There was an article, in the NYTimes I think, about people walking out of their homes, and get this, leaving their pets!

    Maybe the foodstamps don’t cover tins of Pal?

  17. Quote of the week:

    “There is no such thing as a pledged delegate”

    …guess who said that, and no, there are no prizes, it’s too bleeding obvious!

  18. KR – if/when the brown stuff really starts hitting the U.S. economic fan dog food might be about the only thing they’ll be able to get with foodstamps. 🙁

    Especially, if The Village Idiot ™ is still in ‘charge’

  19. Seems the massive grassroots support for Obama is being reflected in the enormous amounts of donations flowing his way:

    “Obama’s new total campaign financing breaks Democratic records, with his bid now collecting in excess of $234 Million.”

    http://www.scopical.com.au/articles/News/World/4121/Clinton_running_far_behind_Obama_on_fundraising

    With the average donation at $90, Obama is clearly drawing wide support.

    Hillary is having trouble keeping up. Her donations fell by 50% in March compared to February.

  20. 162
    MayoFeral

    To make matters worse:

    The New York Times confirms that “over a thousand” officers and troops of the Iraqi army declined to fight the Mahdi Army in Basra or deserted their posts. It also reports that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki replaced them by inducting 10,000 Shiite “tribal” fighters into the Iraqi army. But the Iraqi press didn’t call them “tribal,” it called them Badr Corps, the paramilitary of the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, headed by Abdul Aziz al-Hakim and now al-Maliki’s main political ally. I’m not sure about the source of the discrepancy, but the NYT piece seems to be based on interviews with Iraqi and American government officials. It is possible that the need to strengthen the Iraqi army by turning to a Shiite militia trained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards (terrorists!) was just too embarrassing to admit. So the officials used the euphemism “tribal forces” with the foreign press.

    (Juan Cole)

    …oops, couldn’t report that in the middle of McCain’s spin about the “Iraqi government standing on its own two feet” could we? LOL

  21. I read an interesting article about ex Republican, now Libertarian Party leader Bob Barr running as a candidate.

    He is an old time Republican/Libertarian apparantly who should appeal to a section of the Repub base who can’t swallow McCain.

    I actually think the Dems will win the election comfortably but if for some reason it is close,Me thinks there could be more of a Barr Effect than a Nader Effect.

  22. KR – now the Iranians have shown they can play Iraq like a Stradivarius what’s the betting they try orchestrating events in the lead up to Nov to boost the chances of the candidate they believe they can best work with?

    While you’d think that would have to be the Dem nominee, they may decide on McCain given that the last time they were players in American politics it was another old Republican that they made a deal with.

  23. 172
    MayoFeral

    It’s too scary to contemplate, eh? Although somewhere there’s a story about one of the high Iranian officials being told of Barack’s middle name, and after he overcame his surprise, asked if he had ant chance of winning the presidency! LOL

    But more seriously, I’d suspect they’d prefer someone who wants to talk to them over someone who thinks it good idea if Israel bombed them.

    (One of the most annoying things is the line about Ahmadinejad supposedly saying he wanted to wipe Isreal ‘off the map’. He in fact said no such thing, but the western MSM went mental with a sloppy translation and infered a statement that does not have any currency in Farsi.)

  24. Ferny

    I ventured down into the cellar. I’ve only got 4 Rockfords Basket Press 94 left. The wife must have been drinking them to anaesthetise herself against the horror of living with me. There are 8 Henscke Mt Edelstone 94 as well (which is actually a better wine than the Basket Press). You are welcome to them. You could make a donation to William and I’ll send you them.

    GG @ 173; Nice.

  27. GG

    What a great movie! I watched it a couple of weeks ago for the third time. Did you know that Jack T Ripper was based on real people. There was a strong anti-fluoride movement in the US who thought it was a Commie plot. They even have their own website…still!

    http://www.fluoridealert.org/

  28. A new slant on things.

    “A historically minded reader has suggested that the Democrats end their fratricidal battle by taking a cue from what the Whigs did in the 1836 election when they couldn’t decide between the Northern candidate and the Southern candidate: they ran both. The Democrats could do this, too: put Obama on the ballot in the Western states in which he did well and put Clinton on the ballot in the big Democratic states like Ohio where she won solid victories. Of course, if successful, this strategy would split the electoral votes three ways and nobody would get a majority. Then the newly elected House would choose the President, with each state getting one vote. The Democrats will almost assuredly control the new House. Of course, the battle between Obama and Clinton would then be reignited in the House Democratic caucus so the Democratic members of the House would end up choosing the nominee. But that is going to happen now anyway. However, by doing it that way, the House Democrats would be sure their choice would become President, without having to bother beating a pesky and popular Republican. Of course, the party would need enough discipline to make sure every member of the House voted for the winner of the House caucus vote and normally herding Democrats is like herding cats. The one downside to this strategy is that it didn’t work for the Whigs in 1836; Martin van Buren, Andrew Jackson’s Vice President, won a majority of the electoral vote outright.”

  29. Kirribilli, the “fatal effect” would be as good a way to go as any. Very funny lads those Goodies. Looked on you-tube for John Belushi doing the samuri sausage chops, ie something martial arty and to do with food to reply to black pudding and kung fu as per your link, but couldn’t locate it. Classic comedy.
    However you did mention food stamps, pal.

    Fri Apr 4: You Can Eat Food Stamps?
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE7D81E31F932A05753C1A967958260
    40 Years of American Economic Progress. The Imbecile assures US that with his hand firmly on the tiller, President Reagan’s Trickle-Down is a monumental success.
    http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/tonyauth;_ylt=AiIGH_3tWShrzvLuzVhKS2oV2r8F

    Thurs April 3: Johnny Bomb-Bomb gets smart after too many auto-cue malfunctions
    http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/tedrall;_ylt=Ag.ucOLIvypgSH0EpzYKCMVW_b4F

    Below, Aussie Mike socks it to mendacious war-mongers. Ware reminds me of Sean Flynn, a reporter who covered the Nam war, was big on derring-do and got an honourable mention in the masterful “Dispatches” by Michael Herr. Herr had considerable input on Coppola’s Apocalypse Now.
    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/03/michael-ware-interview/

  30. More bad news for the Clinton Campaign.

    InsiderAdvantage Pennsylvania poll just out shows Clinton just 2% ahead of Obama.
    April 3, 2008 — The latest InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion Survey shows Sen. Hillary Clinton clinging to a 2-point lead in the Pennsylvania Democratic Primary. The telephone survey of likely registered Democratic voters, conducted April 2, has been weighted for age, race and gender. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.7%.

    The results are:

    Clinton: 45%
    Obama: 42%
    Undecided: 12%*

    InsiderAdvantage/Creators Syndicate’s Matt Towery: “This could be the beginning of the end of the Clinton campaign. The crosstabs show Obama trailing among white voters, but by only a 49%-40% margin. More importantly, Obama has a lead among African-American voters of 56%-29%, with the remainder undecided.

    http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/storylink_43_318.aspx

    #159
    jaundiced view
    No time to firm up my numbers right now (life is getting in the way).
    I’ll watch this race from the sideline.

  32. The Obama campaign seems to have mastered the art of how to kill the spread. They were nailed in some states earlier on, but as the camapign has progressed, they’ve deployed increasingly high quality and sophisticated campaigning assets into ordinarily pro-Clinton states (Texas being a good example, Penn looking the same). For the last 2 months I’ve been watching the Obama campaign unfold in… well, in awe. I dont know who the real campaign strategy team is behind Obama, but they seriously have their shit together.

    I just ran a quick look at the spread between Clinton and Obama in Penn, and adjusted it for MoE (US polls have so much more information available about them that it makes them almost a pleasure to work with – looking forward to the real contest!). Over the last 6 weeks, the spread has reduced from between about 14-24 favouring Clinton down to +4 to Obama to +5 to Clinton.

    The polls look tight. If the late deciders continue to run to Clinton as they’ve been doing, she’ll win – but if the spread crunch continues, it will only be by about 5-7 points max… but most likely less.

    If the late deciders run to Obama giving him victory – then surely Clinton would have to concede?

  33. Oh look its the Green Grinch and more of his senile insane ravings. Must have escaped from the sanitorium again where obviously he was restrained due to his homoerotic fantasies.

  34. William: could you do us all a favour and ban GG. Surely he has had more then enough chances and contributes nothing by his inane harassment of posters.

  36. #186
    William Bowe

    GG should indeed not leave comments like 173, which I would have deleted if I’d been on the ball, but I wouldn’t put it any higher than that.

    Nothings is stopping you from deleting the post. Just login, select the post, scroll to the bottom of the page, and hit the delete button.

  37. #173 – GG – why spoil the fun of the Obamaphiles’ mutual admiration and ego boasting party. just beginning to enjoy the [swallowing each others………….. #173] bit. have a nice weekend to all.

  38. The grim reaper of recession is scything away in the US, lopping the ranks of the employed. Another 80,000 jobs lost in March, to make three straight months of losses.

    That ‘r’ word that everyone from the Grinning Chimp to Helicopter Ben has been avoiding like the plague is in full swing. And it’s not pretty.

    Forget Iraq, ‘experience’, or the old scare tactic ‘terrorism’, come November it will be one thing, and one thing only: the economy. The nation is plunging into the deepest recession it’s seen for many, many generations, it has no savings, it’s loaded with debt (after decades of spending more than it earned) and there’s commodity price inflation hitting them in the checkbook every day. And remember too, that vast amounts of ‘wealth’ in the form of property values are evaporating, by some estimates nearly $3 trilion dollars will disappear!

    Ladies and gentleman, this is very, very ugly, and politics aside for one moment, we should give a thought to the personal misery this whirlwind will create, which is a force more devastating than any hurricane by many orders of magnitude.

    But in political terms, it’s a reminder of how empires grow fat, corrupt, and lazy with their own supremacy, and although the current administration is not to blame for all of it, they’ve thrown the accelerant on the flames with blissful ignorance of what they were doing.

    God help them.

  41. 181 js

    “Obama has a lead among African-American voters of 56%-29%, with the remainder undecided.”

    That’s a much lower Obama black vote than usually occurs. I believe it represents a “reverse Bradley”. We have heard endlessly about the Bradley effect, where white voters try not to appear racist to pollsters and “fake” Obama votes which they renege on in the polling booth. The opposite should be true, where black voters do the opposite. I expect Obama will get his usual 80% black vote.

  42. The Clinton’s have released their last seven tax returns. Personally, I don’t give a sh*t about their financial arrangements as they will not change my opinion of her one way or the other unless there is something remarkable in them. But there are an awful lot of journos looking to make their name on them by dredging up connections. I was surprised how much Bill makes from public speeches ($50M).

    Ben Smith, who is an undisguised Billary shill IMHO, has pointed out that the the Clinton’s claimed $150K (!!!) for home office cleaning and maintenance in one year. There’s going to be at least a week of ugly questions and jokes to keep the Obamomentum narrowing Pennsylvania.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Worlds_cleanest_homeoffice.html#comments

  43. KR @ 189 –

    Ladies and gentleman, this is very, very ugly, and politics aside for one moment, we should give a thought to the personal misery this whirlwind will create,

    Yep, gotta feel for Nelson’s poor bankers!

    But also seriously, the poor buggers still have 9 months of Bush fanning the flames before anyone with at least half an idea can get their hands on the levers. They (and we) better hope they ain’t McCain’s mitts!

    And as tough as it will be for the current adult generations, I suspect that the next few are going to bear an even bigger burden if “Helicopter Ben” does what he says he’ll do and just keep tossing money – i.e debt – at the problems until they go away (or treasury runs out of paper and ink).

  44. And an ex-Governor of Puerto Rico predicts she will lose the primary there. Evidently she has shafted them recently.

    The RCP “article” predicted she would win Puerto Rico by 25% easily. Barone said 30%. Obama’s campaign predicts 10%. I know who I would back out of those three.

    During the question and answer portion of the event, one audience member asked Colón about the recent proposed bill, signed by Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, which states that commonwealth is not an option as a permanent status of Puerto Rico.

    “That report will probably cost Hillary Clinton the primary in Puerto Rico,” Colón said.

    http://media.www.dailyorange.com/media/storage/paper522/news/2008/04/04/News/ExGovernor.Discusses.Puerto.Rico.U.s.Relations-3303661-page2.shtml

  46. Mornin’ Sep politics tragics. Ya know, for card-carrying bludgers, some of you people are pretty industrious.

    Possum at 183: “For the last 2 months I’ve been watching the Obama campaign unfold in… well, in awe.”

    Yep, awe inspiring to Aussies and awesome to Seps, it’s been indeed. Brutusina is cactus. She smells bad. SDs are no longer returning her calls. Bubba’s recent red-faced dummy-spit spoke volumes to seasoned campaign watchers.
    Obi’s “killing them” at the neighbourhood level, raising monster amounts at $20 and $50 a time. His audacity of hope caper has activated legions of otherwise switched-off and jaded voters. Literally tens of thousands of supporters are systematically going gangbusters to get enough voters to the polling stations so that the result in November will be beyond rigging a la OHIO 2004 and Florida 2000.
    This is the Grassroots v Beltway in no uncertain terms and emphasises why The Kid is perceived by ruling elites (MIC, MSM, GOPper HQ etc.) as an existential threat to their ongoing “leadership” and industrial strength suction access to the Fed trough. “Oink, slurp, burb, squeal.” At BushCo this lust is bred right into ‘em from the moment of conception.

    HST on Poppy Bush: “He has the instincts of a dung beetle. No living politician can match his talent for soiling himself in public. Bush will seek out filth wherever it lives… and when he finds a new heap he will fall down and wallow crazily in it, making snorting sounds out of his nose and rolling over on his back and kicking his legs up in the air while squealing shrilly like a wild hog coming to water.”

    Obi’s ass ain’t owned. He offers a latter-day New Deal to the people with whom Kirribilli so passionately empathises.
    As the greatest election show on earth chugs towards its thrilling and historic climax, I dare say some of us will age 7 years in the next 7 months but who gives a rat’s! Political change like this beckons but once in a lifetime and personally, I’d rather burn out than rust; to be aboard this rollercoaster rather than live in quiet desperation while the planet is destroyed by those whose vainglorious imperatives are best served by having a poodle reside at 1600 Penn.

    Cbet latest: (back to the same board odds as before TX primaries)
    OBAMA, Barack 1.90 (firms 5c)
    MCCAIN, John 2.85 (steady)
    CLINTON, Hillary 4.50 (drifts 25c)

    Johnny Bomb-Bomb’s bedside lamp in Memphis

  48. It begins:

    ‘What Did Bill Clinton Do To Get $14.4M From Ron Burkle?’
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/04/what-did-bill-do-to-get-1_n_95189.html

    I wonder how all this will play out with the poor mountain-folk championing the underdog-battler? Still, the spinmeisters did manage to release the tax returns on a Friday at 4pm, no doubt with the hope of partially burying both them, and covering Jester in Chief Mark Penn’s lobbying for a union-busting free trade deal that Hills opposes (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/04/mark-penn-apologizes-for_n_95090.html).

    The ramshackle carnival rolls on. Magnificent campaign.

  49. Willaim – Keeping GG on task would be useful but how about resurrecting Davidoff – whose insights were very helpful.

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