NSW redistribution thread

A thread for discussion of the proposed new federal boundaries for New South Wales, which can be viewed here. Laurie Ferguson’s seat of Reid is the one for the chop. Antony Green’s analysis is here. My own overview will appear later.

UPDATE (10/8/09): Here it is.

SYDNEY

The abolished electorate of Reid, located in the western suburbs from Homebush Bay west to Westmead and south to Rookwood, has been carved up three ways: 46,300 (44 per cent) of its voters go to Parramatta, 33,300 (32 per cent go) to McMahon, as Lowe is now named, and 26,000 (25 per cent go) to Blaxland. The transfer to Parramatta solves that electorate’s identity problem, the boundary between Parramatta and Reid currently running through a town centre that will now sit at the heart of the electorate bearing its name. Parramatta also gains from Reid areas extending eastwards through the Parramatta River and its surrounds to Rydalmere, and southwards to Merrylands and Granville. This is great news for Labor’s Parramatta MP, Julie Owens, whose margin (by Antony Green’s reckoning) is up from 6.9 per cent to 9.5 per cent – provided Laurie Ferguson doesn’t have designs on her seat. McMahon gains the area south from the nature reserves along the Parramatta River through Silverwater and Newington to Rookwood, boosting the margin there to 10.4 per cent. Since there had been murmurings about the future of Lowe MP John “Beef Stroganoff” Murphy in any case, this seat would presumably be the logical target for Ferguson’s predations. Blaxland gains Reid’s southern reaches of Guildford, South Granville and Berala, and presents an unlikely target for Ferguson given the strength of sitting member Jason Clare’s support in the Right.

These changes have resulted in knock-on effects in the electorates south to the Georges River. Watson moves north into areas vacated by the reorientation of Lowe/McMahon and Blaxland to fill the void in Reid. It gains the southern part of Lowe, accounting for an area bisected by the Hume Highway through Enfield and including the southern parts of Strathfield and Croydon to its north and northern Bedfield and Croydon Park to its south. This accounts for 25,200 voters, or 27 per cent of the previous enrolment of Lowe. From Blaxland, Watson gains 18,900 voters in Greenacre and Mount Lewis, or 19.5 per cent of the old Blaxland’s enrolment. There is a further gain 3,900 voters just south of this area from Banks, at Punchbowl. This in turn requires Watson to cede substantial territories to its southern neighbours: Barton, which gains 27,900 voters from Kingsgrove east to Bexley North and Earlwood, and Banks, which gains 18,700 voters at Hurstville and a sliver of territory at Narwee and Riverwood south of the South Western Motorway. Watson thus carries over only 52 per cent of the voters from the division as previously constituted.

Barton’s gains from Watson are counter-balanced by the transfer to Banks of the western part of its territory on the north shore of the Georges River, accounting for 27,000 voters from Connells Point, Kyle Bay and Blakehurst north to Hurstville. Banks’s gains from Barton and Watson amount to an eastward shift, which is manifested at the opposite end by transfers to Hughes (22,900 votes from Milperra south through Panania to Georges River, home to 22,900 voters) and Blaxland (15,100 voters in an area from Bankstown Aerodrome east through Condell Park to Bankstown itself). The effect has been to reduce the Labor margin in Banks to single figures, from 11.1 per cent to 9.6 per cent. Blaxland’s gains in north and south are counterbalanced by losses in east (18,900 voters in Greenacre and Mount Lewis to Watson, as previously mentioned) and west (20,200 voters in Lansvale and eastern Cabramatta to Fowler), changing the electorate’s orientation on the map from horizontal and vertical and leaving it carrying over only 60 per cent of its existing voters.

Hughes pays for its gain from Banks with two transfers to its eastern neighbour Cook, around Como on Georges River (4900 voters) and Sutherland further south (3400 voters), one to its north-western neighbour Fowler (5600 voters at Liverpool), and the loss of urban Heathcote and the adjoining national park of the same name to Cunningham in the south (4,900 voters). The Banks gain in particular has contributed to a small but potentially crucial change in the Liberal margin, which is cut from 2.2 per cent 1.1 per cent. Fowler loses the outskirts areas west of Kemps Creek – over half of its geographic area – accounting for 9500 voters at Wallacia, Warragamba, Luddenham and Greendale, which now form the northern tip of Macarthur. It also loses 10,800 voters at Cecil Park to Prospect in the north and 1500 at Austral to Werriwa in the south, while making the aforementioned gains from Blaxland and Hughes to the east. Prospect’s gain from Fowler is counterbalanced at its opposite end by a neat shift of the northern boundary from the Western Motorway to the Great Western Highway, moving 3500 voters to Chifley. Its eastern tip at South Wentworthville, containing 5400 voters, is transferred to Parramatta. Werriwa’s gain from Fowler is counterbalanced by the loss of 4300 around Blairmount and Blair Athol to Macarthur in the south.

Parramatta’s gains from Prospect and particularly Reid are counterbalanced by losses in the west and central north. The latter area accounts for a transfer for 9500 voters around Winston Hills to Mitchell, bringing the Liberal margin there down from 11.6 per cent to 9.6 per cent. The area west of Old Windsor Road and Binalong Road, accounting for 44,400 voters in Kings Langley, Lalor Park, Seven Hills, Toongabbie and Girraween, goes to Greenway in a dramatic redrawing of that electorate. A further strip of territory immediately to the west is transferred to Greenway from Chifley, accounting for 9700 voters from Blacktown south to Prospect. All that remains of the original Greenway is its area closest to the city, defined by the Blacktown-Richmond Railway in the west and Old Windsor Road in the east, with Marayong, Acacia Gardens, Parklea, Glenwood, Stanhope Gardens and Riverstone in between. This area contains 44,900 voters, only 45 per cent of those in Greenway as currently constituted. The area west of the railway, including 9,700 voters at Shanes Park, Marsden Park and Colebee, now forms the northern end of Chifley. Further west again, on the opposite bank of South Creek, Londonderry and its 4000 voters now form the northern end of Lindsay, reducing the Labor margin there from 6.8 per cent to 6.3 per cent. Beyond that to the north, the outskirsts and semi-rural territory which previously made up most of Greenway’s geographic area has been transferred to Macquarie. Greenway thus goes from being a Liberal seat with a margin of 4.5 per cent to a Labor seat with a margin of 5.6 per cent, presenting Liberal member Louise Markus with a redistribution as bad as her last one was good.

Mitchell’s gain from Parramatta in the south is counterbalanced by the loss to Berowra in the north of its area beyond Cattal Creek, containing 8600 voters from Glenhaven north-west to Annangrove. Berowra also gains a small strip of the otherwise unchanged Bennelong, adding 1900 voters north of North Rocks Road and Plympton Road in Beecroft. The former change helps push the Liberal margin over double figures, from 8.9 per cent to 10.3 per cent. Its gains are counterbalanced by the transfer of 6600 voters around Normanhurst in the south-east to Bradfield, which also gains 7000 voters at East Killara and East Lindfield from its south-eastern neighbour Warringah. The latter transfer forms part of a rationalisation of Warringah’s western boundary along Middle Harbour Creek and Sugarloaf Bay, which also moves Castle Cove and Middle Cove due south of the Berowra transfer to North Sydney. Warringah also loses 3500 voters to the otherwise unchanged Mackellar at Forrestville on the eastern bank of Middle Harbour Creek, adjoining the East Killara/East Lindfield transfer to Bradfield. North Sydney gains the southern part of Bradfield around Chatswood, adding 13,800 voters, while losing to Warringah 2700 voters in a strip between Middle Harbour and Sydney Harbour from Willoughby Bay to Neutral Bay and Cremorne Point. Liberal margins in Warringah and North Sydney have both been garnished slightly, from 5.4 per cent to 5.0 per cent in the former case and 9.5 per cent to 8.8 per cent in the latter.

The southern shore and inner city seats have undergone very little change. Malcolm Turnbull’s base in Wentworth has gone untouched. Its southern neighbour, Peter Garrett’s Kingsford Smith, loses 3600 voters in its north-western corner at Rosebury to Sydney, which is otherwise unchanged. Sydney’s western neighbour, Grayndler, absorbs 1200 voters in northern Croydon from Lowe, allowing Grayndler to cover the entire municipality of Ashfield.

THE BUSH

The area Macquarie absorbs from Greenway extends from Richmond in Sydney’s north-western outskirts north through Kurrajong to the unpopulated Parr State Conservation Area and populated McDonald River valley, and accounts for 43,600 voters. Just as the loss of this area has been devastating for the Liberals in Greenway, so has its gain all but eliminated Labor’s buffer in Macquarie, from 7.0 per cent to 0.1 per cent. Macquarie maintains the Blue Mountains municipal area but loses to Calare its interior territory, including 41,900 voters in and around Lithgow, Oberon and Bathurst, which returns to Calare populous areas it lost at the previous election. In doing so it again makes Calare a marginal seat, as it had been when Labor held it throughout the Hawke-Keating years. The Nationals margin is now 1.2 per cent, compared with 12.1 per cent at the election. Calare retains 41,400 voters in Orange, the neighbouring Cabonne and Blayney municipalities and the northern part of the Bathurst Regional Council area. It also absorbs the area of Parkes nearest to Sydney, namely the southern half of Wellington Shire Council (including Mumbi and Neurea) and most of Mid-Western Regional Council (Mudgee and Gulgong), home to 14,500 voters. The unpopulated remainder of Mid-Western, beyond Bylong Valley to the east, is transferred to Hunter.

Parkes in turn absorbs from Calare its expansive interior areas, resulting in a dramatic increase in its already considerable geographic area and a corresponding reduction in Calare’s. This area runs from Forbes and Parkes out to Narromine, Warren, Condobelin, Nyngan, Cobar, Bourke, Brewarrina and Wilcannia, and contains 34,700 voters. A further area to the south, containing 2,600 voters in Shire of Carrathool and the southern half of the Shire of Lachlan, goes to Riverina, while 11,800 voters to the east of this area in the shires of Weddin and Cowra go to Hume. The area maintained by Parkes extends from Dubbo and Wellington north through the shires of Gilgandra, Warrumbungle, Coonamble and Narrabri to the Queensland border at Walgett, Moree Plains and Gwydir. Parkes loses the 8200 voters in the Shire of Gunnedah to its eastern neighbour, New England, which in turn loses 1100 voters in the north-eastern part of the Shire of Tenterfield to Page. This adjustment has cut the Labor margin in Page from 2.4 per cent to 2.2 per cent.

The latter amendment notwithstanding, the north coast electorates of Richmond, Page and Cowper have been little affected. Richmond is unchanged, reflecting ongoing population growth around Tweed Heads. A salient south of Grafton containing 250 voters has been transferrred from Cowper to Page for the sake of neatness. Cowper’s southern neighbour, Lyne, gains 3800 voters in the Shire of Gloucester at its interior southern end from Paterson. Paterson’s boundary with Hunter in the city of Maitland has been amended to conform with New England Highway, adding East Maitland on the highway’s north-eastern side, and to the north of the city it gains an area around Hillsborough and Maitland Vale north of the Hunter River. The changes account for 2300 voters between them, counterbalancing Hunter‘s gains from Parkes and cutting the Liberal margin in Paterson from 1.5 per cent to 0.4 per cent. Paterson loses to Newcastle the area from the Paterson River and Four Mile Creek south to Raymond Terrace Road, including the town of Duckenfield and 530 voters. Newcastle loses to Charlton an area of Lambton south of Newcastle Road and west of Croudace Street, which includes Newcastle Private Hospital and 1200 voters in a residential area to the north. There is no other change to Charlton, and no change at all to its coastal neighbour Shortland. Further south again, Dobell is unchanged except for the loss of 157 voters in its interior area of McPherson State Forest and Mangrove Creek Dam, which is transferred to the otherwise unchanged Robertson.

In the interior, Farrer remains unchanged, continuing to cover the entirety of the state’s western border and extending along the Victorian border as far as Albury and the adjoining Shire of Greater Hume. Neighbouring Riverina now extends to the Victorian border by gaining the interior areas of Eden-Monaro, the shires of Tumut and Tumbarumba (10,100 voters), and also has the previously discussed gain from Calare. This is counterbalanced by the loss of the Shire of Cootamundra and its 5500 voters to Hume. Eden-Monaro gains the 13,900 voters in and around Batemans Bay from its northern coastal neighbour Gilmore, which together with the Riverina transfer returns Eden-Monaro to its pre-2007 boundaries, excepting the anomalous areas north of the Australian Capital Territory which remain in Hume. Labor’s margin there is reduced from 3.4 per cent to 2.3 per cent. At its eastern end, Hume gains from Macarthur and loses to Throsby. The gain of the interior area of Macarthur, covering 10,500 voters from Lake Burragorang south through Oakdale, The Oaks and Picton to Wilton and Brooks Point, counterbalances Macarthur’s Sydney outskirts gains from Fowler and Werriwa. To Throsby it loses the balance of the Shire of Wingecarribee east of the Hume Highway, including 27,500 voters in and around the rail line towns of Mittagong, Bowral and Moss Vale. The changes to Hume increase the Liberal margin from 4.2 per cent to 5.2 per cent.

Throsby loses to Gilmore its southern coastal area around Shellharbour and lighly populated areas of the Municipality of Kiama further inland, collectively accounting for 20,200 voters. This counterbalances Gilmore’s loss of Batemans Bay to Eden-Monaro in the south. Labor’s strength around Shellharbour and weakness around Batemans Bay are just enough to shift Gilmore into the notional Labor column, turning a Liberal margin of 4.1 per cent into a Labor margin of 0.2 per cent. At Throsby’s northern coastal end, the unpopulated Spring Hill industrial area north of Port Kembla is transferred to Cunningham. More substantially, Cunningham gains northern areas in the Shire of Sutherland: at the coastal end, it gains the Royal National Park along with Bundeena and Maianbar on the southern bank of the Hacking River from Cook, adding 1800 voters; further inland, it gains 4900 voters in and around the Princes Highway centres of Heathcote and Waterfall from Hughes. Cook makes two gains along its western boundary from Hughes: at Como and Bonnet Bay in the north and in the eastern part of Sutherland further south, collectively adding 8200 voters. Hughes’s losses to Cook and Cunningham, along with the loss of Liverpool to Fowler, counterbalance the substantial gain from Banks north of the Georges River.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Another odd change is Throsby extending to cover most of the Southern Highlands.

    I struggle to see what people living in Bowral and Moss Vale have in common with people who like in Dapto and Port Kembla.

  2. [You’ll be lucky to come fifth in either seat if you reject the CPRS bill.]

    The Greens won’t have the opportunity to have the casting vote, so your partisan rant is meaningless and the Green voters know it.

  3. SL, the south coast seats were under quota and needed to expand somewhere. I think those areas have in the past been part of Gilmore.

  4. Ahhhh…..

    [While Labor appears to be the big winner from the redistributions by gaining five seats, it makes little change to the swing needed for the Labor Party to lose office. ]

  5. If (when?) NSW loses another seat, Throsby will be a good candidate for abolition. On those boundaries, it could be seamlessly divided between Hume, Gilmore and Cunningham.

    That’s what Malcolm Mackerras was predicting would happen this time, but the numbers didn’t quite justify it.

  6. The essential problem for the coalition in NSW is the shrinking heartland of the Nats. The number of seats becomes more heavily weighted to urban areas with every redistribution. Half a seat at a time to use David Walsh’s formula from earlier.

    As for the other changes Macquarie and Greenway tend to cancel each other out. There is a marginal advantage to Labor in the way the figures have worked out.

    Labor lose the seat of Reid, but notionally gain Gilmore.

    Macarthur was so marginal that it could easily have gone either way.

    As Antony Green, points out the swing needed for Labor to lose is unchanged. Exactly what you would expect from a non-partisan body doing their job properly.

  7. [Albo will get over 50% so it doesn’t really matter much.]

    That’s pretty bold considering the Green vote in the polls has doubled since the previous election.

  8. Albo won Grayndler after Pip Hinman was excluded. He needs about 200 more votes to win without going to preferences.

    Not bold, highly likely.

  9. Bob refuses to accept that the current growth in Greens vote is largely through disaffected Liberals as evidenced through the Fremantle bi election. The Greens being a Party that does not support CC reform, some Liberals are quite comfortable in their new philosophical surroundings.

    Longer term I’m wondering if the Greens will change their name to the Aquas as the infusion of Liberal supporters changes the colour of the traditional Greens base.

  10. I do not think that the Greens will win Grayndler but they will beat the Libs on three-candidate preferred and thus come second. Coming second, at the next election, would help the Greens because it it removes the “they always come third” factor and would cut the ALP`s margin from over 70% to around 60% (with preferences like in Melbourne).

  11. If I was the Libs, I would concentrate my appeals on Gilmore. There have always been communities of interest between the Southern Highlands and Nowra. It would seem a relatively simple swap between the Southern Highlands and Shellharbour, and could be argued. The other argument they could use is that Wollongong would cover two seats rather than three.

    Otherwise, there is not a lot for either side to complain about. The other interesting aspect is that these boundaries put Banks into the Libs winnable range – Daryl Melham had a close shave in 2001 or 2004 (can’t recall). A few resources in Libreal swing year and it could be theirs. Not 2010 however! or even 2013.

    This redistribution cleans up the North Shore boundaries which were a real community of interest mess with Warringah including parts of Lindfield and Killara etc. The srange boundary now is Bradfield going out towards Thornleigh. I suppose otherwise it would have to take more of Hornsby and sort of start to cut Berowra in two.

  12. Hmm, I thought Albo did not win on first preference – the AEC now shows he gained 55.47% of first preferences and that he Greens vote was -1.34% less.

  13. Both Albo and Tanya Plibersek are probably extremely grateful that the Leichhardt Council area remains across both Sydney and Grayndler. The day that its not, the ALP are in real trouble. The more Grayndler creeps west, Albo stays safe.

  14. 115

    You are the person who refuses to accept that having a similar number of votes in two consecutive elections does not mean that the same people voted for a party. The secret ballot makes it impossible to tell for sure and logic tells us that the Libs who preference the ALP ahead of the Greens, against Lib HTV recommendations, would cast their primaries for the ALP ahead of the Greens when the Libs are not running (for example 17.44% of Lib voters (3CP) in Melbourne preferenced the ALP ahead of the Greens in 2007 http://results.aec.gov.au/13745/Website/HouseDivisionDop-13745-228.htm).

  15. Bob is like many Greens, the idea of Liberals voting for them frightens their idea that Liberal voters are greedy and dumb

  16. Tom if over several elections a booth that is solid Liberal starts to see a rise in Green vote while the Liberal vote drops and the ALP vote doesn’t move than that would tell me that the Greens are improving their vote off former Liberals.

  17. Bob1234!! You seem tried, yeah i know its friday you better have a few beevies sit back and enjoy the Cricket.

  18. [Bob1234!! You seem tried]

    If you meant tired, yes i’m tired of people trolling with no purpose except to cause trouble. It’s not worth the reply when they are so obviously aiming for a reaction rather than a serious discussion of positional differences.

  19. [Bob refuses to accept that the current growth in Greens vote is largely through disaffected Liberals as evidenced through the Fremantle bi election. The Greens being a Party that does not support CC reform, some Liberals are quite comfortable in their new philosophical surroundings.]

    Luckily you said it – when I say it I am called every name under the sun and they go and beg William to ban me.

    The poor delusional petals cannot handle the political truth that if given the circumstances a Liberal Voter would rather vote Green than their natural enemy Labor.

  20. Bob1234! I agree, but in my view i think the Greens should be looking to improve their vote at the expense of the Liberal Party, the Liberal Party has moved a great distance from its traditional base leaving it exposed.

  21. [If you meant tired, yes i’m tired of people trolling with no purpose except to cause trouble. It’s not worth the reply when they are so obviously aiming for a reaction rather than a serious discussion of positional differences.]

    Oh if that isn’t a classic example of Pots & Kettles then I’ll be a Monkey’s Uncle.

  22. [a Liberal Voter would rather vote Green than their natural enemy Labor.]

    Says the person that won’t listen to William Bowe or Antony Green when they say Carles is likely to retain her seat at the next election regardless of whether the Libs put up a candidate 🙂

  23. Lets take the next Victorian state election, the Greens have developed a series of Public Transport policies that may appeal to Liberal voters if the Greens were able to sell those policies they would be in with a real chance of holding their seat in Southern Metro and causing both the Liberals and the ALP some headaches.

  24. [Says the person that won’t listen to William Bowe or Antony Green when they say Carles is likely to retain her seat at the next election regardless of whether the Libs put up a candidate :)]

    But didn’t the same William Bowe predict that the ALP would retain the seat in the first instance ? 🙂

    Likely and Certainly are two different things – what if the ALP put pre-select a High-Profile Candidate with Mass Appeal like a Fremantle Docker ?

    And didn’t the “experts” also predict Cunningham would be retained by the Green ? And we all know what happened there 🙂

  25. Logic said Carles who will be facing her third election and second as sitting MP will be favoured to hold Fremantle just as Elizabeth Constable and others have proven hard to remove once they become elected.

  26. I think in all fairness to the Greens, it has proven easier for State MPs to keep being re-elected than it has been for federal MPs

  27. Perhaps Fremantle can be explained two ways:

    – a by election protest vote – the governmental status quo won’t change so ‘lets put it up them!’ –

    or as more more likely

    – tactical voting – enough Liberal voters thinking that the Greens say might put the ALP out, so they vote Green to make sure. Very common in the UK where the Lib Dems are the main beneficiary.

  28. Mexican @ 131

    Using the Victirian Upper House is not a good example as it is elected by proportional representation.

  29. That’s right. William Bowe and Antony Green are wrong, and Frank is right. I keep forgetting these Frank-laws-of-the-universe. It’s been a long day. 🙂

  30. [That’s right. William Bowe and Antony Green are wrong, and Frank is right. I keep forgetting these Frank-laws-of-the-universe. It’s been a long day. :)]

    Stop verballing me, as usual, I said that William was wrong in his INITAL prediction. But don’t let that little fact get in the way of your rabid anti ALP obsession.

    Hell, if Kevin Rudd Gave in 100% to the Greens demands, you’d still be complaining that the legislation wasn’t printed on recycled paper 🙂

  31. [Hell, if Kevin Rudd Gave in 100% to the Greens demands, you’d still be complaining that the legislation wasn’t printed on recycled paper 🙂 ]

    If it was printed on recycled paper, they would complain it was imported from Italy. 🙂

  32. [Hell, if Kevin Rudd Gave in 100% to the Greens demands, you’d still be complaining that the legislation wasn’t printed on recycled paper ]

    I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again. I vote for the Greens because they’re the only socially progressive party. I’d still be voting Democrat if they were as strong and united as they used to be.

    Gee, speaking of which, I wonder how you’d have been ranting about the Democrats back in the day. Not as easy to insult the Democrats as it is the Greens even though their ideology is similar :0

  33. [Gee, speaking of which, I wonder how you’d have been ranting about the Democrats back in the day. Not as easy to insult the Democrats as it is the Greens even though their ideology is similar :0]

    I’d give the Dumbocrats the same amount of scorn as I do the Greens – especially after what Meg Lees did 🙂

  34. [If it was printed on recycled paper, they would complain it was imported from Italy. :)]

    It’s funny how they use Computers made from components manufactured in Asian countries in sweatshop conditions 🙂 Oh and unless they use Linux, Bob Brown and his co-horts in the parliament are using Software by a US Monopoly 🙂

  35. [I’d give the Dumbocrats the same amount of scorn as I do the Greens ]

    So you don’t give a stuff about ideology, rather you just care about party loyalty.

    Figures 🙂

  36. [So you don’t give a stuff about ideology, rather you just care about party loyalty.]

    And we all know the old maxim – Disunity is Death – just ask the Libs 🙂

  37. [What has all this slagging off got to do with the NSW redistribution??]

    Ask Bob, he raised it here 🙂

    [If you meant tired, yes i’m tired of people trolling with no purpose except to cause trouble. It’s not worth the reply when they are so obviously aiming for a reaction rather than a serious discussion of positional differences.]

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