Essential Research has the Coalition’s lead up slightly on a weak showing last week, from 51-49 to 52-48, with primary votes of 43% for the Coalition (steady), 36% for Labor (down one) and 9% for the Greens (steady). Findings of further questions:
• “Direct action” is favoured over carbon pricing 35-31, reversing a 39-29 lead for carbon pricing in May. Support for carbon pricing is down from 43% to 39% with opposition up to 43% to 47%.
• Support for the government’s decision to cease issuing statements when asylum boats arrive is at 39% – surprisingly high, to my mind – with opposition at 48%.
• The re-establishment of the Australian Building and Construction Commission is supported by 29% and opposed by 22%, with the rest down for either no view or don’t know.
• There are also questions on manufacturing which suggest respondents to be broadly supportive of protectionism.
Meanwhile, buttons have been pressed today for Senate contests in Victoria, South Australia and the Australian Capital Territory, which you can read about in the Senate counting thread a few posts below.
feeney
Julia doesn’t and didn’t whinge. You’re just looking for something to be spiteful about. And of course she would have known how Kevin felt. He made sure we all knew.
For example, Julia said, talking of sexual bullying:
“”At the end of the day, yes, it happened to me, but it’s not, you know, about me. It’s about all of us, about women and about the kind of society we want to be for all of us.”
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/abc-publishes-sexual-tweet-about-tony-abbott-on-qanda-website/story-fncynjr2-1226730866460#ixzz2gRzS7cyf
REX
I doubt that will last long,
will abbott give attention to the building of new building in
PNG, how long before, there is no room left, and also this 48 hour turn around,
was their health checks and vaccinations
I hope some one is telling the PNG government to check
they cannot risk un vaccinated persons arriving on their shores
measles etc, or other unknowns
poroti
That should be one meeting that not even Bishop and Abbott can cock up.
[I didn’t know they did.
Certainly, their thinking seems to be pre-scientific.]
Someone much wiser than me wrote:
[Along with these great ideological passions, we have also suffered and continue to suffer from what might be called fashions – nationalization, privatization, debt financing, debt as the devil, the killing of inflation.
Fashion is merely the lowest form of ideologoy.]
The liberals are VERY fashionable.
Abbott has said he stands by the policies he went to the election with.
Did I misread or miss another press release where about has negotiated the buying of boats and turning boats back with Indonesia.
Yahya is saying buying boats and sending our police (Navy/Customs) into their territorial waters will be a major problem
@ch150ch 2m
Crikey on Abbott’s Indo trip. He defused tension he unnecessarily created & criticised free speech in Austr #auspol http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/09/30/crikey-says-160/ …
Enough with these equinoxial gales already.
So Abbott went to Indonesia and did absolutely nothing, I assume he will return in triumph to celebrate his nothingness.
Oh I wonder if he will ever give a Press Conference as PM? Or is this beneath his status now?
I never heard Julia complaining about anything,
it was a great conversation ,
people with their own agendas will read in to what they want to
think and hope other do to
it also obvious that young woman look up to her
nothing wrong with that
Murray Bridge, in Barker electorate, is a major regional centre by SA standards with over 8000 formal votes.
To the best of my knowledge the ALP had no-one handing out HTV cards in Murray Bridge.
I was present at 2 polling booths, I spoke to people at a third and I was approached by voters from other booths wanting to know where the ALP was.
Slack.
Abbott is blatantly lying to the people who voted for him when he says he stands by the AS policies he took to the election.
lizzie @ 101
I’m not “looking for something to be spiteful about”.
I watched most of the program, and that is the effect it had on me.
In any event, I couldn’t give a stuff about the Gillard/Rudd crap any longer.
I’m focussing on who to vote for in the Leadership ballot.
Hope you are, too.
Yahya was damning of the Howard Govt. Stating low trust
Good to hear Indonesia is considering ending visa on arrivals for Afghan & Pakistan arrivals
[Abbott is blatantly lying to the people who voted for him when he says he stands by the AS policies he took to the election.]
It was obvious he lied almost every day about almost everything. If they weren’t smart enough to spot it they deserve what they get. What is worse they will probably not care.
Abbott sounded like he was giving it a shot in that presser today. Trying to talk up the potential of Indonesia as a trading partner he said wtte ‘we have more trade with NZ than we do with Indonesia! how ridiculous is that!’ – not quite in those words.
so let me get this right they are saying on twitter
he is buying up the old boats, but not turnback the boats
how the hell does that stop boats coming
think how much money boat builders will make now for building new boatss
have we all gone mad
or have folks on twitter got it wrong
he is still turning boats back that are brand new boats and will get here quite well
fredex
Labor staffs its booths with volunteers. No volunteers, noone at the booth.
I’m not sure what you want to see happen – locals dragooned into handing out, whether they want to or not?
Abbott sounded like he was giving it a shot in that presser today. Trying to talk up the potential of Indonesia as a trading partner he said wtte ‘we have more trade with NZ than we do with Indonesia! how ridiculous is that!’ – not quite in those words.
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that would impress the IND, people seems we have neglected trade with them
bet one of traveling school friend mates mentioned that
other wise how would he know
will google later to busy now
The SA ALP did very well, considering that they were tipped to lose up to 4 house seats. Unfortunately, when you have an independent get around a quarter of the Senate vote, it does funny things to the results.
Jeez that nail fungus add is a bit much.
FREDEX
SIMPLE DO WHAT I DID VOLUNTEER
STOOD OUT SIDE ONE 4 5 HOURS
as I have severe arthritis in my feet spent the next day in bed
but it was worth every minute of it
all the libs could drum up
was a poor man who had two strokes and couldn’t speak
very well I had to do his talking
Barker is very safe Liberal 52%+ primary vote. The answer is more ALP members in the branch to volunteer.
State HQ will never fund a division like this unless the locals do the work.
zoomster@118
With a larger and more active membership this would be less of a problem.
Also, I would expect the campaign team to work with the branches to make sure each booth was covered and if in difficulty to seek external assistance.
Just leaving boots unmanned and saying nothing is not good enough.
Carey Moore@120
So you have a particular problem there. OK, we all know that.
Now, how is the SA Branch planning to deal with it?
[Now, how is the SA Branch planning to deal with it?]
Ricin in an umbrella? 😆
ruawake@126
Drastic. But hey, they don’t seem to have any other ideas. 😛
[Now, how is the SA Branch planning to deal with it?]
Go in its reality changing machine and make sure Nick Xenophon and the economic slowdown of the state never exist.
Carey Moore@128
So Xenephon is a beneficiary of the economic slowdown? 😮
Sounds like a rationalisation of failure. This used to be the way things operated in Victoria but we got over it.
Carey Moore
What is the attraction of Mr X ? I’ve seen him a number of times on tv and buggered if I can see anything that would want to make me run out and vote for him.
v.funny ruawake – the Georgi Markov solution to Mr X.
poroti@130
Opposition to poker machines is his consistent stance.
I think major parties fail to appreciate just how seriously many people feel about this issue.
He has built upon this.
Hmm, isnt the question for the SA ALP – wasnt Mr X’s number 2 a better bet than the Day FF guy (who presumably will be a straight coalition vote given his history)?
I’m continuing to post updates and comments on Fairfax count at:
http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/2013-federal-election-late-counting.html
bemused, if you had taken your mouth off Rudd’s dick for 5 minutes during the bloody campaign, you would’ve actually seen plenty of commentary by me expressing the walls faced by SA Labor in this election. One was an older state Labor government presiding over a bad economy. That was always going to hurt Labor. Secondly, Xenophon is a popular independent and has been for over a decade. It doesn’t matter what Labor’s position is, he was going to gobble up Senate votes. This is a fact. And finally, I really want you to pay attention to this: SA Labor were hindered by the idiot running things in Canberra, who thought a campaign involving selfies and schoolchildren was going to win it. Every week I was hearing insiders say “We’ll do well, as long as Rudd doesn’t screw it up!” The ALP actually limited its damage by sticking to local issues. The Libs actually had a last minute surge by presenting an advertising campaign reminding SA voters that a vote for Labor is a vote for Rudd.
I know all this stuff. I was on the ground, I talked to the people, I read the articles. Circumstances were leading to an unpretty situation for Labor and they managed to hold the line.
Also, if you want to bring up the effectiveness of the Victorian branch, how did you manage to lose in 2010? Until the last minute, you were leading in the polls. What happened? You were dealt a great hand and blew it, so spare me your lectures about Victorian superiority.
Abbott’s govt is too far out of line with many business heads, however he tries to paste over it.
[Nathan Fabian, CEO of the Investor Group on Climate Change, told Guardian Australia that climate change posed a significant economic challenge to Australia.
“The transition to a clean energy economy is a major issue for Australia as it is way too emissions intensive than it should be,” he said. “This provides a high degree of economic exposure.
“Our research has also shown that key sectors which Australia invests in, such as mining and minerals, manufacturing and transport, all have significant physical vulnerabilities which we expect to be more severe by 2030.
“That means businesses have to build resilience within assets and adapt by relocation if possible. It’s a critical issue for Australian companies and it’s starting to filter into conversations in boardrooms.”]
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/30/climate-change-study-australia-suffers
Poroti – when I asked that question the SA bludgers indicated he has a reputation for working very hard, listening to constituents and going in to bat for them with gusto, and sticking up for South Australians, who have suffered economically in recent years and feel isolated and neglected by the East, and that they are missing the bulk of the mining prosperity of the West/NT/Queensland. I’m sure being at the end of the Murray-Darling also makes them feel a bit victimized.
I think when Barnaby Joyce is hailed as a “great retail politician”, he doesn’t really hold a candle to X, who seems to be able to build a constituency and continue relating to it, where other politicians and parties fail.
Additionally, SA of course was basically home to the Dems and returned high Senate votes for the Dems at a number of elections, so they either had an inbuilt willingness to vote for non-major centrist candidates or developed the taste for it.
And of course X isn’t the ALP and isn’t the LNP and isn’t the Greens and isn’t Palmer or Katter or Nutter. Stunt artist extraordinaire, but not a Nutter.
Dio…
You didn’t watch the Summers/Gillard i/v …did you?
It comes as a surprise to me that such a veteran skeptic/cynic as your good self, would stoop to quoting something out of context just to confirm a pathetically amateurish attempt to psychologically profile our former PM…
Do better next time you want to denigrate someone.
PS: Julia’s emotion is the enemy of your lack of reason…
[Hmm, isnt the question for the SA ALP – wasnt Mr X’s number 2 a better bet than the Day FF guy (who presumably will be a straight coalition vote given his history)?]
That is a valid concern and I honestly can’t get a straight answer as to why that happened TBH. I suspect it was to get favour with FF without pissing Xenophon off completely. It was a crappy move which goes to show how much the preferencing system stinks in ATL Senate voting. No idea why the Greens did it though.
[ASRC @ASRC1 30 Sep
Australia has received in 9 months this year the same number of people seeking #asylum as Turkey did in the last 72 hours. #auspol #refugees]
There really is no venom like intra-party venom Carey.
Of course.
But this is another artifact of our broken Senate ATL voting system. The majors have to play the preference harvesting game as much as the minors/micros do – they just lost out this election where normally they come out disproportionate winners.
Senate reform to abolish group ticket preferencing and institute OPV ATL and BTL will solve all of this angst and the stupid double guessing of how much support the lunar fringe parties will actually get, and the ALP and LNP should get on to it as a priority.
Lizzie – there’s an actual war going on next door to Turkey in Syria. Its hardly a fair comparison.
Just posting, that’s all, to show comparisons. Australia always seems to think it’s the only one in the world with a particular problem.
IMO this is all going to get much worse with AGW. We need to resolve our policy on refugees pretty damn quick.
bemused
where’s the assistance to come from?
In Indi, for example, we have something like eighty booths. Our membership (including octogenarians) is about one hundred.
No difficulties staffing the big booths (which account for most of the votes, anyway) but when it gets to the medium and small booths, it’s very hit and miss.
I have no idea where we’d get assistance from. The surrounding seats have even bigger problems.
zoomster so you are responsible for the lack of women in Abbott’s cabinet?
Australia’s voting system is starting to get archaic. Handing out HTV’s, polling booths etc. Postals etc All of these things could be made a lot more efficient and simpler.
Its clear many people dont want to vote on polling day – so why not facilitate early voting. And postal rules seem to be a thing of a by-gone era – why do we need to wait 2 weeks for postals to come in 2013?
I sometimes think the handing out of HTV’s is more about branch members feeling good about themselves then any real utility in the voting process. Presumably you could ban HTV’s at polling booths and just have them set up in the entrance.
HTVs themselves are basically pointless since they started printing party affiliations on the ballots, however the ritual is as much about the parties and candidates having a presence at the polling booths and a reason for making contact with the punters on the day.
Whether that is a good reason to allow them to continue I don’t know, but the conservative in me likes the “festival” atmosphere of heading down to the polling booths on a particular day and the sausage sizzles etc and the feeling of rubbing shoulders with the rest of the Australian voting public.
I will be sad to see it turn into a non-event.
ESJ
[
Is faith the enemy of science Diogenes?]
Yes. All this guff about faith and science happily co-existing is a load of cobblers. The only way they can co-exist is in fenced off areas.
Good point Jackol – all true.