Bit late with this one due to the distractions of last week, but the latest reading of the BludgerTrack poll aggregate records discernible movement to Labor after a period of stasis, with both Newspoll and Essential Research recording 53-47 leads to Labor. Labor is up three on the seat projection, with gains in New South Wales, Victoria and Queensland. Both pollsters produced leadership ratings this week, but they haven’t made much difference to the relevant aggregates.
BludgerTrack: 52.7-47.3 to Labor
The gap between Labor and the Coalition widens in this week’s poll aggregate reading, on the strength of similar results from Newspoll and Essential Research.
I never had ambitions to be a doctor, but increasingly I am fascinated by matters medical.
It happens as you get older. Long gone are the days when everything just worked without my having to take tablets, do anything or pay any attention.
Good Morning
I think the AS deal will fail with the US. President Elect Trump has doubled down on his deporting immigrants. To keep the deal the LNP would have to accept to a swap and their has been talk about that. The fly in the ointment that will be too much for the LNP?
The immigrants President Elect Trump wants to deport must have criminal records or he runs into problems with the courts in the deportation process.
I don’t see the LNP accepting criminals as immigrants despite Australia’s foundation history as a British Colony.
Lizzie
Congratulations on your all clear for four years. I hope the celebrations were good 🙂
Trog
I wouldn’t rely on any such optimistic predictions. India and China will continue to use coal for decades yet, and even increase their use. The main problem is of course that coal is just so cheap. A lot of fuss was made recently about China not approving any new coal mines, and everyone assumes it is because coal mining is no longer economic – but the reality is that the world already has a massive overproduction of coal – we don’t need any new mines. Also, countries with large coal reserves (i.e. both India and China) no longer need to import coal – they are now willing to burn their own reserves because they no longer need them for future energy security. In a sad irony, the rise of future cheap renewables might actually drive up coal consumption in the short term. The sad truth is that coal is still the cheapest source of energy, and will remain so until the earth bakes.
China and India are still building coal-fired power plants, and the world is predicted to increase coal consumption till at least 2040 – https://www.eia.gov/forecasts/ieo/coal.cfm
Kenny Devine @TheKennyDevine 11h11 hours ago
Barnaby Joyce, sick & tired of others making him look like an idiot on #QandA, has come onto the panel to do the job himself.
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Dutton just slammed the Senate cross bench.
Diogenes
For what it’s worth, was so incensed at what you said because of personal reasons,I put the letter on twitter, addressed to Catherine King and Bill Shorten,to date 10 minutes have had 20 retweets plus tweets back in support
Bemused
I couldn’t reply to you last night as my mobile doesn’t like PB, and I can’t take my desktop to bed!!
I’m sure you’ve thought all this out, but this is how I coped with the fluids:
I started an hour earlier than recommended, to give me more time to get through it all.
I made a chart to keep myself on track: 150ml every 15 mins.
At the end of each hour I had a hot drink for comfort and contrast (Bonox – beef broth).
I didn’t have tum capacity for any more liquids, so no extra water and did have a slight headache by late morning.
It was much easier than the first time.
Good luck. 🙂
Boerwar
Trump’s election may turn out to be a plus for the environment if it galvanises the rest of the world to take action. US policies on climate were half baked, (excuse the pun) even after 8 years of Obama. There may well be sanctions slapped on countries that do not comply with global emissions goals.
Handing policy to the big fossil fuel companies will simply allow the dying industries to stagger on for a couple more years. It will damage the US economy, and, ironically, further set back the rust belt states, but not have much effect on global warming.
In any case, the market realities of cheap solar and wind energy are already having a massive effect on the economics of power generation and on resulting emissions. (Why do you think the Coalition got it’s tits in such a tangle over the power outage in SA?)
Capital is flowing out of fossil fuel industries and into renewables for sound economic reasons which have little to do with the environment
The main issues are not so much emissions reduction, but coping with the ecological damage of warming already locked in, the lost economic opportunity of not upgrading our infrastructure and adapting work policies.
shalailah: .@PeterDutton_MP says the government will look at families who are separated by the proposed lifetime refugee ban “in a sensible way”
sspencer_63: So, not a lifetime ban then? twitter.com/shalailah/stat…
bw
Sorry mate, but you ascribe more importance to the Greens than they warrant or have earned.
They have flatlined around 10% of the votes now for a number of years. They will never get much above that. The only direction available to them is down.
They are not a threat. They have never been a threat. They will never be a threat, as long as Labor keeps arguing on behalf of the working man and woman.
Guytaur
Just one extra drink… I was hoping for a luxurious sleep-in this morning, but terrier wanted breakfast at the usual hour and took running jumps onto me and walked up and down my body until I surrendered and got out of bed!
guytaur @ #706 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 9:44 am
Those would be flying pigs! 🙂
Funny how Labor ‘has to’ support Government legislation when in opposition, while Coalition oppositions geel no such compulsion, even for changes for which Labor has a clear mandate.
It’s simple. Labor does not support bad legislation
DG
Its well to remember the founder of the Greens Dr Bob Brown has stated he would be happy to see the Greens disappear if Labor took on the environmental policies.
This is part of the reason why the Greens have seen a focus in the media on other issues even while promoting the environment. Labor has moved on the environment. Not enough for many but without a doubt Labor is closer to getting that wish of the Greens founder. No need to have the party because Labor is doing the job.
The real tension on environment is coal mines. When Labor accepts no new coal mines at all the reason for the existence of the Green party will disappear from an environmental stance.
Dutton uses presser to attack “Bill Shorten” every time. Even the way he says the name holds contempt, but Bill is worth a dozen potatoheads.
Trog
‘Trump’s election may turn out to be a plus for the environment if it galvanises the rest of the world to take action.’
‘If’. Progressive dreamings…
For certain: Trump will (a) walk away from Paris. (b) encourage all the other laggard states to do nothing much. (c) enable the US fossil fuel industry. (d) undo all the work that Obama has done. (e) reduce the price of fossil energy changing all current cost comparisons invalid.
Anyway, when you guys were busy undermining Clinton and handing power to Trump you knew all that, so not to worry, right?
Lizzie
Awwww. Too much love 🙂
S77
I smell desperation and fear.
Player One
No way that India and China will continue to use coal for decades. The reason is the cost of transmission. It is also the reason that “coal is the savior of humanity” thinking is so wrong.
When you can produce and store power locally using cheap solar and batteries for less than the cost of transmission, then there is no longer any incentive to buy electricity from centralised generators even if the generator charges you nothing.
A couple more points:
– The largest factory in the world, the Tesla gigafactory, will produce all its own power from pv and wind.
– In SA we have already reached the point where solar and batteries is cheaper than grid connection.
STEVE777 – I think it’s a cast-iron law of politics that when a PM accused the opposition of “playing politics” (as Turnbull keeps doing) he’s done.
lizzie @ #616 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 6:24 am
He needs it to manage his treatment by the right wing of his party.
chinda63 @ #659 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 8:35 am
Key question – do they achieve a better result?
I will inquire about them.
Maybe so, but nationalism is one of those symptoms that causes all sorts of nasty things.
Trog
That’s what they have said. Go argue with them.
The good thing about Australia is that nationalism is a threat to the LNP.
Unlike Trump they are in power. They are the ones the votes see neglecting them. Hanson is far more of a threat to the LNP than to Labor.
The right is split. The right is under just as much pressure as the left was when the Berlin Wall came down. In the US it will work out but there its going to be real ugly.
Here the nationalists are fighting amongst themselves as they try and rule. Here with the saving grace we have voters that gave us 2 Senates that the government has to negotiate with. Something Turnbull’s mob seem just unable to do.
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#658 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 8:29 am
Thanks for the information.
I will speak to my GP about this on my next visit to him.
I knew nothing of these tablets. I have now expanded my list of “know nothings” to include this. I do not here include a print out as William has asked that posts of extreme length be forborne.
I have been given the prep for my colonoscopies from stocks which I suspect are of mountainous proportions. When these are depleted perhaps the tablets will then come into play.
I could not find Diacol on the PBS schedule. Colocaps is apparently an alternative which also I could not find on the PBS.
So that: When drinking Bowel Prep one could hold one’s nose and think of England/Orstraya.
I recently saw someting on somebodies ABC TV about the nexus of smell and taste.
I was quite interested at the time. I think it may have been on one of the childrens channels (my favourites are ABC23 and “Little Lunch” and “Hank Zipster”).
The revolting preparation drink may be satisfactory for those among us who enjoy a good thrashing occasionally. These people would be aplenty as witness the number of people who vote against their own interests. On the other hand, the masochists among us may find that taking bowel prep could substitute for a trip to visit “Madam Lash’s” successors.
Lizzie. You have mentioned the nexus between beer drinking experience and colonoscopy preparation on a couple of occasions.
As a retired drunk (Ret 1968) my experience is that drinking large quantities of fluid for pleasure (or compulsion) is vastly different to the partaking of “Bowel Prep”.
Finally. The pleasure of have the colonoscopy over and done with is immense and with, one hopes, a good result, can be consigned to those experiences to be discussed knowledgeably with unfortunates who “have not been there and done that”.
E@OE 🙂
I don’t mean to be picking on you Trog, but that is a double standard. You think Clinton, who supported action, didn’t do enough. But Trump, who thinks it’s a Chinese conspiracy, will end up being a plus.
That is exactly the kind of failed logic BW is banging on about.
P1
Not true. China and India have both signed up to the Paris Agreement. They have said in writing in a treaty what their aims are. Supporting coal is incompatible with that.
steve777 @ #701 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 9:40 am
That may partially explain it, but not completely.
poroti @ #705 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 9:43 am
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Donald Trump is likely to tear up Australia’s refugee resettlement deal with the United States unless the US gets something significant in return, an American immigration expert has warned.
Niels Frenzen, the director of the immigration clinic at the University of Southern California school of law, also warned that if US vetting had not already started, refugees would not be resettled before Trump was inaugurated as president on 20 January.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/15/trump-tear-up-australia-refugee-deal-us-expert-warns
lizzie @ #708 Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 9:47 am
Your advice and good wishes are much appreciated. 🙂
I am sure I will do a better job this time and will follow your advice except for the bonox.
KayJay
I suppose I was thinking of the ability to drink a half-pint in one “swallow”. Men seem to be able to open their throats and simply pour it down. I can only sip, or I choke.
Boerwar
Clinton would have been up against the “fossil fuel complex” and was arguably part of it.
Probably would have got the boot after 4 years. Exactly the same situation as the last election here i.e. a great one to lose, but preferably by a small margin, if you are a centre left party.
You can’t compare fossil fuel costs with renewable energy technology. Solar panels are a technology not a resource. Coal and oil have costs, because they have to be extracted and distributed. The sun is free.
When the cost of solar panels and storage falls below the cost of transmission, then it doesn’t matter how cheap the fuel, you can’t beat zero.
Can anyone make a guess as to the cause of Trump’s orange face? Sunlamp or Vit. A?
On 457 visas, the Libs are going to be like deer in the headlights. They will see this as a totemic issue that their base (big business) will demands and won’t shift any ground except to accuse Labor of nationalism (which will win it more votes). Keep digging, Malcolm
Lizzie
Spray tan. Orange is a common side effect.
Question
I think I covered that in my last comment – just couldn’t see any way forward for Clinton.
Guytaur
Thanks, O modern one. Never used it myself 😉
Trog
I do hope you are not seriously arguing that Clinton and Trump are no difference in relation to global warming action. Got sucked in if you are, right. That one is an old extremist trick from both sides of the fence.
Lizzie
I was tempted once. However I saw the results of someone who did it first. Lost all temptation.
Dan
The Greens had four choices in the US:
1. Don’t vote.
2. Vote for Trump.
3. Vote for the Greens.
4. Vote for Clinton.
1, 2 and 3 have no impact on the result which is that Trump cooks the planet.
4. Would have resulted in Obama’s reforms remaining intact and the US remaining one of the global leaders in fighting global warming.
There were enough Greens voters in the US to make their vote decisively powerful in the outcome.
The Greens went for the speeded up cook the planet option along with the obligatory outrage.
Dan
In the US system BW is exactly right. Until they have more change like Maine adopting preferential voting third party candidates are a waste and you might as well stay home.
Wow I expect to see a lot of memes born out of this.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russian-cossack-vladimir-putin-us-president-elect-election-victory-a7413601.html
Trump to roll back Obama energy policies
US president-elect Donald Trump is considering an oil billionaire and a North Dakota lawmaker for top posts as he moves to roll back President Barack Obama’s environmental and energy policies and allow unfettered production of oil, coal and natural gas.
Trump has vowed to rescind “all job-destroying Obama executive actions” and pledges to sharply increase oil and gas drilling on federal lands while opening up offshore drilling in the Atlantic Ocean and other areas where it is blocked.
http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/trump-to-roll-back-obama-energy-policies/news-story/fc7a1b70e473a2abfb6d61033f64616b
Trog
Your logic is flawed. Most of the transmission network is already built, as are most of the power stations. It doesn’t matter how low the costs of renewables goes, fossil fuels will always be cheaper. Okay, you can add the proviso of ‘for existing energy needs’ if you want – it makes very little difference. We’ll still be just as dead if warming hits six degrees.
P1
BS. Existing transmission lines can be used no matter the source. The technology getting cheaper bit includes the smart management needed to transmit the power.
Cost of digging up coal is expensive. Just ask whinging Gina with her demands for $2 an hour pay rates.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/11/15/julie-bishop-almost-as-popular-as-malcolm-turnbull/
Nov 15, 2016
Essential: Bishop lurks behind flailing Turnbull
Voters have dramatically soured on Malcolm Turnbull as his party’s leader and Julie Bishop is poised to benefit, Essential Report shows.
Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop has surged to nearly level pegging with Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull as Australians’ preferred Liberal leader in a stunning Essential Report today.
In July, Turnbull was the pick of 30% of voters to lead his party while Bishop was preferred by just 16%. But after four months of drift and dysfunction, Turnbull has collapsed to just 21%, while Bishop is preferred by 20%. Tony Abbott has also picked up two points to 11%; “someone else” in on 18%, just three behind the Prime Minister. Turnbull’s numbers on leadership of his party have literally halved since December last year.
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But Bill Shorten too has fallen in the eyes of voters: he was, by his own standards, riding high after the election as the preferred leader of his party with 27% of voters — easily his best ever rating. Now he’s back to 17%, an even bigger fall than Turnbull. However, neither of his two most obvious replacements, Anthony Albanese or Tanya Plibersek, have benefited — the former is preferred by 12% (11% in July), the latter 14% (12% in July).
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On voting intention, the Coalition is down a point to 37% and Labor is steady on the same level. The Greens are up a point to 11%; the Nick Xenophon Team (3%) and One Nation (6%) remain steady, for a two-party preferred outcome of 53%-47% in Labor’s favour.