Newspoll breaks out of its 53-47 straitjacket to record a 54-46 lead for Labor, from primary vote of Coalition 35% (down one), Labor 38% (up two), Greens 9% (down two) and One Nation 9% (up one). Leadership ratings also record substantial change for the first time a while, with Malcolm Turnbull down three on approval to 35% and up five on disapproval to 55%, and Bill Shorten down two to 34% and up three to 54%. Malcolm Turnbull leads 43-33 as preferred prime minister, down from 46-31 last time. The poll was conducted from a sample of 1675 from Thursday to Sunday. The Australian’s paywalled report here.
Newspoll: 54-46 to Labor
Malcolm Turnbull records an eight-point deterioration in his net approval rating, as Labor’s lead on voting intention widens still further.
zoidlord
Another one bites the dust:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/21/liberal-mp-ann-sudmalis-lists-british-nationality-on-1966-passenger-card
Thanks Zoidlord, you made my day!
Just when you think that the Libs and Nationals couldn’t stuff it up any more, they prove you wrong.
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I’m gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust
John Deacon, for Queen.
I wish Tony Jones would just SHUT UP!
Abbott refused to produce his documentation until the two Greens resigned from parliament.
Sorry but Shorten looks really shifty refusing to release documents. After Tony Jones finally got a “no” out of Shorten that he would not release his documents, Shorten adopted a classically defensive body posture.. arm across stomach, leaning forward. Terrible, terrible, terrible.
IOM
It was a cooking show entitled ‘Two Fat Ladies’.
alias
Without the Internet very little of this S44(i) stuff would have surfaced.
Indeed. The internet is the most empowering thing for the hoi polloi that we have ever enjoyed.
It forever removes the ability of those ‘in control’ to manipulate information in any meaningful way.
BK
+1
Alias:
Agreed.
zoomster
‘Only one such claim at a time could be valid.’
Historically, that was not so. There are numerous examples of lords holding two allegiances. For example, some English lords owned land in Scotland and were thus subjects of both the English and Scottish kings (pre unification, of course).
The founding fathers of Federation would have been very much aware of these kinds of situations.
Then it’s worth asking why did they not refer to such situations in 44(i). They were not mentioned in the discussions at the Convention either, where talk was of naturalised Subjects who had at some time made oaths of allegiance to a foreign power, or who were not described as British Subjects but as Foreign Subjects.
It’s also notable that the question never arose in relation to any MP even though the people who drafted the Constitution sat in the Parliament. Whatever the situation for Scottish aristocrats in the 18th century had been, by 1901 nationality was a unitary estate here and remained so for many decades.
Tony Jones carrying on like a pork chop. Shorten cool as in the face of hysterical screeching.
Boerwar
Shorten is ignoring Jones to a certain extent.
Bill Shorten doing well on Q&A.
Go the kids!
Shorten is doing well by refusing to buckle to the insane demands of every insane right wing nut job.
What kind of a question is that? Some 9yos get their video published on Qanda and that’s justification for asking the LOTO if under 12s should get the vote?
The last thing Shorten should be doing is jumping through Liberal hoops.
A complete distraction that only serves the Liberal Party and their supporters.
Stupid question from the wedding entertainment bloke. Has he heard of elections? We have them often enough.
People asking shorten to release documents and claiming it is shifty are butt hurt greens and coalition supporters.
Christian is a hoot!
If a wedding entertainer doesn’t want to play at a gay wedding, nobody is going to force them to. Seriously WTF?
Qanda is channeling the crazy Republicans.
Boerwar
Among other things!
Stupid question from the STUPID wedding entertainment bloke.
Shorten smacks the wedding entertainer’s dumb-ass question out of the studio.
“If you don’t like the direction of the nation, vote Labor”. That needs to be condensed to 3 words.
Compare the confidence and fluidity of Shorten’s responses to how we’d expect Turnbull would do.
Bill could be doing a lot better. Not doing terrible at all but he can really play to the crowd.
Shorten is not an orator. Maybe that’s why Turnbull tends to win on PPM?
PeeBee:
The wedding entertainer needs to worry about his business after he’s made a total ass of himself on national TV! If he’s lucky he’ll be begging the gays to play at their weddings. 😆
Shorten always takes a bit of time to warm up. He’s just not a smart arse like Turnbull.
Shorten may not be an orator but he’s certainly not a waffler.
BK
Or a patron of the notorious tax haven of The Cayman Islands.
Mark’s a Menzies House plant.
No, Shorten definitely not a waffler. I just wish Jones would stop interrupting!
Ann statement claims that she is not British there it is not my fault.
Shorten’s not going to take shit from Jones.
David Crowe @CroweDM
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Abbott: “If you don’t like the direction of the country, vote no.”
Shorten: “If you don’t like the direction of the country, vote Labor.”
Does anyone know what city Qanda is broadcasting from tonight?
Heads up, the Guardian’s Ann Sudmalis story is probably a nothing-burger. See John’s twitter thread.
https://twitter.com/johnb78/status/899596794627149824
https://web.archive.org/web/20110601180936/https://www.passports.gov.au/Web/HistoryOfPassports/PassportEvolution.aspx
Back then, it was perfectly possible to be an Australian citizen only, but have a “British passport”, so that’s what they write on the form.
Sydney, going by that chap’s reference to Sydney housing market.
Fess, one of the first questioners said here in Sydney.
Qanda is from Sydney tonight.
Brilliant straw poll on Internet Access!
LL
Thank you for the heads up.
alias @ #754 Monday, August 21st, 2017 – 9:45 pm
sounds like a bit of a train wreck
Thanks everyone.
I don’t understand why Labor can’t undo the Liberal mess of the NBN and revert to fibre, fibre, fibre.
Shorten PM.
Inequality.
Blue eyes!
I appreciate Shorten is trying to not give one liners and empty slogans but I still would like to see him give some clearer answers.
If Bill Shorten can’t back up his nationality claim with documents then he’s probably gone.