The Coalition recovers just a little bit from its low base in this week’s reading of BludgerTrack, which incorporates new results from Newspoll, Essential Research and YouGov. The Coalition is up half a point on the primary vote and 0.3% on two-party preferred, although the bigger mover is One Nation, which came in higher from all three pollsters. The only change on the seat projection is a gain for the Coalition in Victoria. After a leap last week on the back of the monthly Essential Research numbers, Malcolm Turnbull’s is down again on the leadership trend after a very different result from Newspoll. The bigger picture on these measures is how remarkably little change there has been since last year’s election.
BludgerTrack: 53.6-46.4 to Labor
Mild improvement for the Coalition in the poll aggregate this week after better results from Essential Research and YouGov (though not Newspoll).
A vote could still be some way off. There are 134 clauses in the bill and they appear to be debating them one by one, and sometimes moving amendments on a given clause, though some clauses are going through immediately. They’ve just completed clause 57, including a discussion of what constitutes opening a locked box.
IOM
Agreed. I meant in terms of preventing harvesting
TheRickyDavila: I’ll always stand with & fight for #LGBTQ youth against bullying of any kind. I was one of them. #SpiritDay
I can’t quite understand why Australians (Bishop, the Australian) are being such dicks to Jacinta.
Surely they didn’t expect her to lie to protect her countryman Barnaby?
It can’t just be young – only 3 years younger than Macron.
It can’t just be left wing – she’s being treated more harshly than Sanders or Corbyn.
It can’t just be that she’s female, May is being treated with a lot more respect than she deserves.
Maybe just a combination of all of the above I guess?
She is the leader of our closest friend and ally. A country that sits on the Council of Australia Governments, and provisions exist to make NZ a state if they wished.
Show some goddam respect.
Puff, the Magic Dragon.
No need to import it. Australia,thanks to Tassie, is the world’s top licit opium poppy grower.
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Anton
Go to any high care nursing or palliative care
Facility for a few hours and it will shake you to your core.
Remember we are not just dealing with elderly people. Children and adults of all description succumb to terminal illnesses such as cancer and degenerative diseases such as motor neurone diseases, multiple sclorosis, Parkinson’s just to name a few.
For me it is cruel and unusual punishment.
And the idea that Christians who use this as a crux cos of Jesus suffering on the cross as something dignified are bloody nuts. Despite medication etc, the suffering by these people is immeasurable, sustained and ongoing and absolutely devastating to all concerned.
VE:
Simple: if Ardern were a conservative party leader she’d be regaled all round by JB, the Oz, Gladys etc.
JBishop and Massola have been making a big deal about North Korea’s “Open letter to Parliaments of Different Countries”.
Why wait until Bishop and Massola pass on North Korean propaganda? Go to the horse’s mouth to keep up with the latest:
http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.home.retrieveHomeInfoList.kcmsf?lang=eng
For example, “Invaders, Provokers Will Meet Most Miserable Death”. Nothing like a melodramatic headline to grab attention!
Voice Endeavour
They are terrified that Australians might notice that a Labour government does not mean the end of the world or the second coming of Stalin .
On organ donation.
There are a number of conditions which have to be met before a body is acceptable for donation, so it is not inevitable that all would be accepted. IMV it is the relatives (maybe with less knowledge of the person’s desire, who are feeling guilty) who try to prevent the donation.
victoria @ #81 Friday, October 20th, 2017 – 9:53 am
I admire your simplicity. 🙂
One problem is relatives that don’t know how to let go and insist on a loved one being kept ‘alive’ or at least ‘un-dead’.
It is hard, but there is a time to let go and allow a person to go peacefully, with or without assistance, according to their wishes.
[And the idea that Christians who use this as a crux cos of Jesus suffering on the cross as something dignified are bloody nuts. Despite medication etc, the suffering by these people is immeasurable, sustained and ongoing and absolutely devastating to all concerned.]
the protracted painful dying is always a prime opportunity for the church to to drag people in who face the fear and uncertainty of death. jesus is the answer and by the way a bequest to the church will do no harm. there is comfort in having a priest there as there is in having anyone there who can offer comfort, but at times they are like no more than vultures picking on a not yet dead carcass.
i would expect the church to demand that a priest be present as an independent observer if vlad passes.
jameshancockABC: Now debating clause 112 of 140. #VAD vote expected soon. @abcnewsMelb
Vic
Berejikllian is being harassed for being female by radio jocks (also cos shes from the moderate wing). Shes also not a visionary leader and more managerial. I get the feeling shes not 100% okay with being the leader in public all the time.
Shes still a shit premier though.
even if vlad goes ahead it will be subject to the same delays and delays and bureaucratic restrictions that we saw imposed on RU486 and medicinal mary jane.
it will be available but whether people can access it?
IOM
As with all LNP governments they are shit at running things as they do their neo liberal agenda.
However despite their concentration on cars at least they are building railways and light rail. Very unusual for an LNP government
Northcote By Election features
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2017/10/14/housing-affordability-and-tenancy-laws/15078996005347
Boris
“Priest be present” …
:LOL:
Voice Endeavour @ #104 Friday, October 20th, 2017 – 10:12 am
Yes, for a start get her name right!
Ambassador for People Smuggling and Human Trafficking.
I thought this was about Dutton.
They are now discussing the training required for medical practitioners to “kill their patients” (as Robert Clark put it).
“Priest be present” …
there are souls to be saved and bequests to be made CTar1, tism.
IoM – Gladys is a Photioscopy
Anton
I will give you that one. Clever.
Obama live on 24
Damn ABC cut the coverage short.
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Boris @ #84 Friday, October 20th, 2017 – 9:55 am
well said Boris
VE
I can’t quite understand why Australians (Bishop, the Australian) are being such dicks to Jacinta.
usual single childless leftist woman in power.
sherridan laments nats should have been awarded govt as had the largest primary vote.
conducting search now to find similar articles where he laments Clinton should be pres as she had more votes and Gillard was a worthy choice as she had more votes.
Even Shorten should be PM as labor had the highest number of primary votes, sure add the lnp and nats votes to the libs then they are higher but then you have to add the greens to labor and labor are still higher.
may be a while on this search, bye
Boris
VE
I can’t quite understand why Australians (Bishop, the Australian) are being such dicks to Jacinta.
Cos she is a Labour figure. Cos she extends a share of power to the Gs. Cos she has been able to unite the parliamentary numbers to displace the Nationals. Cos she represents the success of everything the Right loathe and fear. Cos Labour’s win in NZ heralds the defeat of the LNP in Australia.
They will immediately set out to destroy the usurper. It’s instinctive for them.
Why are certain Right Wing political and media figures being such ‘dicks’ to the new NZ PM? The question sort of answers itself.
I can see that autocorrect is doing its best to change Jacinda to Jacinta at every opportunity as well.
:large
I’m surprised that the Speaker formally recognizes each vote as a “conscience vote” prior to the division. All that matters is the numbers on each side and it’s for the parties to decide internally how their members will make their choices.
guytaur
RWitherspoon: Happy #SpiritDay! Today and everyday, let’s take a stand against bullying. Stand up for LGBTQ youth! @GLAAD
Great image!!
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The fuck did the notion the largest single party has a right to govern come from ? Its manifestly idiotic. Consider (in the absence of the Coalition) you had 34 Labor , 33 Liberals and 33 Nationals. Does anyone think Labor skills have government in that scenario (beyond the belief that Labor should always have Government because they are inherently superior , which isn’t really relevant from a democratic perspective) ?
briefly @ #133 Friday, October 20th, 2017 – 11:05 am
You think she’d “get with the program” and just change her name! 🙂
Boris @9.55 i agree that the final stage of life is managed better in thr community (gp) setting than the expert instututional setting. Palliative experts while highly skilled are more ‘expert’ at knowing what dose of opioid ensures no pain or consciousness but can’t be construed as speeding someone to their death. Ligislation should help protect gp’s who escalate doses appropriately to terminate suffering.
Pete Hannam
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/renewables-to-flatline-under-turnbull-governments-energy-policy-20171018-gz3hk3.html?btis
Puff, the Magic Dragon. @ #100 Friday, October 20th, 2017 – 10:07 am
Heroin is used in the UK with great effect in care of the terminally ill. The Menzies Govt 1953 under international pressure driven by the USA banned it here, despite pleas from the medical profession, then the NSW Branch of the British Medical Association.
https://johnmenadue.com/alex-wodak-why-is-illicit-drug-use-considered-evil/
Jacinda is also part of a wave of awareness around the world that Emperor Neoliberalism has no clothes . Long may that wave spread.
Cash was out squawking her success.
Vic assembly is now dividing on the third reading.
Bludgers all, I read through the dispute yesterday on VAD. It’s an issue that stirs strong passions. I hope this conversation can be approached in a spirit of understanding, in the knowledge that we all head the same way whether we will it or not.
There’s a lot of dying to be done. Lots. That is not in question. There will be dying without aid and with ease. And there will be dying in ignorance. There will be sudden death. There will be dying without help. There will be reluctant dying and brave dying and dying without succour of any kind. There will be contradictory dying and peremptory and cursory dying. There will be presence of mind and kindness. There will be remembrance and there will be the inexplicable mercy of forgetfulness.
An assistant in death is a paradox. They are not wanted but they may be indispensable. They may be wise, but what do they do with the woe? The assistant is acquainted with compassion and pity; they have knowledge of the dying, the just-dead and the so-bereaved. They are observers of pain and disease; of the now-hot/then-cold facts of mortality. These gaunt fellows – these graduates – are among us all the time. They visit, unwelcome and too soon.
They make themselves right at home among the living as among the sick; and freely they share their sorrows. The more sorrow there is, strangely the more will be found. Sorrows are like betting slips at the bookies’ ring on Cup Day. They are everywhere discarded and blown, pink and white and blue petals from the wilting flowers, blown around underfoot. Purple for anguish. Red for agony. Yellow for nausea. White for fear. Orange for vomit. Black for diarrhoea. Browns for thirst. Green for terror. Grey for the End and for Word of God. Silhouette for the last breath.
What to do with the sorrows, oh what to do with the stale flowers.
Lilac. What the bloody hell will be done with the lilac? Oh, dry me a chilli; catch me a fish. Shuck an oyster and peel a plum. Bake apples with dates and raisins. Wilt spinach and poach eggs. Sing Imagine, like this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSc-u1o4Xak
Yep, she’s a perfect storm of what the conservatives hate. I would add one more factor to that list though: electorally successful.
The conservatives, especially the news hacks, don’t mind a leftist like that if they’re just splintering the left-of-centre vote for them. They even don’t mind when they can unite the L-o-C vote but fail to win the election because some of the “softer” opinion writers can pinch off an opinion piece about how that leader “Made a good effort/was an interesting experiment but the country isn’t ready for that kind of leader and (centre-left party) should aim to appeal more to the middle, with more sensible policies next time, if it wants to win.”
Well done to whoever said on PB wtte “It’s like forcing every car buyer to buy a horse and cart as well.”
The very sensible Stephen Long.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-19/national-energy-guarantee-trifecta-missing-detail/9063500
The * did the notion the largest single party has a right to govern come from ?
The parties that always have the right to govern are conservatives under their variou party badges and brands. The goal posts are shifted as required to justify this: the single party with the most votes but still a minority (NZ 2017), party with the highest 2PP (SA 2014; Coalition in early counting, Federal election 2010) or most seats (Coalition 1998) or, if none of these can be conjured up, the voters had a ‘fit of absent mindedness’ (Abbott, 2014).
VAD is passed: 47-37
Next it goes to the upper house.