After a week of post-Ipsos hype, The Australian reports the latest Newspoll finds absolutely no change whatsoever on voting intention since a fortnight ago: Labor’s two-party lead is at 53-47, and the primary votes are Coalition 37%, Labor 39%, Greens 9% and One Nation 5%. Scott Morrison is down one on approval to 42% and up three on disapproval to 48%, while Bill Shorten is down one to 35% and up two to 53%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is unchanged at 44-35. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1582.
nath@12:04pm and ‘It’s Time’@2:05pm
OMG OMG OMG I am having a big laugh on Chris Kenny comment. Thanks for the joke. Is Chris Kenny that stupid?
Boerwar
Ooooh , gold star for Labor taking a political risk !
We’re only dealing with systematic torture here… but BRAVO TO LABOR for taking a political risk.
Just bizarre logic.
I don’t know whether Medevac bill had any influence on Ipsos poll but IMO Ipsos poll had an influence on how some people voted for Newspoll. Newspoll would have been worse if not for Ipsos
Zoidlord @ #650 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 2:13 pm
Good. We are agreed then.
Well, not too sure about that last bit, since police collusion was a factor in how the church got away with some of their criminal activity … but we are generally agreed on this too.
And good luck with that one! 🙂
Worse for whom, in your opinion Ven, and why?
Rex Douglas @ #652 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 2:16 pm
As a Green supporter, you should be very familiar with bizarre logic.
How many children need to be raped before a religious organisation is called what it actually is…a pedophile ring?….. 1,10, 100, 1000….One organisation is into the tens of thousands… it has no right to exist in a civilised country, and it is nothing to do with freedom of religion.
grimace, of course I’m not arguing that anyone should be exempt from the law. Far from it. The law should apply to everyone, regardless of their affiliation to a religious organ. That is the obverse side of the coin of religious freedom.
Ven
Kenny is vying with Benson and Shanahan to be Australias top comedian.Gottliebsen,Sloan are in the running too and Van Onselen the novice is knocking on the door too.
Torchbearer @ #657 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 2:19 pm
Perhaps we should have a non-binding plebiscite on this issue?
Torchbearer
There are around 1.1 billion Roman Catholics in the world.
It is highly likely that most child sexual abuse does not occur in institutions.
Most of it occurs in family households which include at least one sexually active male in that household.
I always sort of thought that it was a shortcoming of the RC that the TOR specified ‘institutional’ child sex abuse.
But I realized that to have included child sexual abuse in the home would almost certainly have caused the collapse of this RC as a practicable exercise.
Wow! ( thanks, PvO)
My ramblings about various uses for lettuce initiated some funny and droll responses . Thanks, gang.
I am somewhat concerned, however, with one comment which hinted at lettuce’s links to sexual vitality and flaccidity. Umm.
So, to avoid any further , possibly licentious reference to this libidinous vegetable, lettuce leaf it at this point or we will bring William’s wrath down upon us.
sd
It is almost as if the rising flood tide of Labor is forcing Mr Kenny to jump more and more sharks.
It really is very funny.
Here is someone who, five years ago and who, along with the entire right wing extremist nuttariat, was proclaiming the dawn of the new ultra right millenium.
And it has all turned to complete shit.
Lettuce be the thankful.
So what?
Tax receipts don’t finance the UK Government’s spending. Taxes delete some of the purchasing power of the private sector. That is their main function. Inflation control. Other functions of a currency issuer’s taxes are 2. influencing the distribution of income and wealth; and 3. influencing the behaviours of households and firms via the incentives and disincentives created by tax obligations.
So what if most sex abuse happens elsewhere…does that somehow exonerate a pedophile filled organisation? What a bizarre comment.
Nicholas
Venezuela is pursuing NMT as we speak.
Nuff said.
Briefly,
The RC found that 40% of the Christian Brothers Sect of the RPPS in Australia were active paedophiles. Was the Royal Commissioner stereotyping, or simply exposing ‘inherently dehumanising’ behaviour that the RPPS actively and illegally covered up over many decades (in fact, probably centuries).
What do you think should be done about such an organisation? Should I praise them, or just shut up, in your holier than thou opinion? What proportion of those who actively covered up, and effectively facilitated child rape should be imprisoned, in your opinion. Because the RPPC behaviour is religion based, should it be excused, like the lynching of beef eaters in India?
I think that the RPPC organisation has exposed itself in the last week as being evil from top to bottom, and world wide. Note that I am not, in any way, criticising those who have been sucked in by this extraordinary money extraction organisation, just those who participated in the evil behaviour and its cover-up, and those on this forum who ridiculed those of us who supported the establishment of the RC, and persisted in their ‘nothing to see here’ pose when the foul, pustular, pellish stench was revealed.
I hope your new job proves challenging and worthwhile.
https://mumbrella.com.au/mark-knights-serena-williams-cartoon-cleared-by-press-watchdog-566940
Bennelong Lurker @ #598 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 1:27 pm
Hopefully by telling him that’s it’s their country and they’ll have the service whenever they damn well please. They won’t do this of course, because they are too respectful of and still thankful for what the ANZACs accomplished in 1918.
Fuckwombles like Morrison and Abbott should be equally respectful of the fact that they have no right to make demands, but they don’t have any sense of common decency. Tubthumping wankers.
‘Torchbearer says:
Monday, February 25, 2019 at 2:30 pm
So what if most sex abuse happens elsewhere…does that somehow exonerate a pedophile filled organisation? What a bizarre comment.’
The ‘so what’, if we follow your logic, is that households would have to expel sexually active males. Because they are statistically far more dangerous places for children, in terms of pedophilia, than institutions.
“Here is someone who, five years ago and who, along with the entire right wing extremist nuttariat, was proclaiming the dawn of the new ultra right millenium. And it has all turned to complete shit.”
Agreed. The basic problem is that the hands-off, anything-goes capitalism which such people favour inevitably leads to average citizens being exploited, then later on to pitchforks and guillotines. Just ask Thomas Piketty.
autocrat
‘…the original decision to move the Villers-Bretonneux service was at the request of the local French authorities….’
Right. So we invade France! C’est la guerre!
How dare they behave as if France is not an Australian right wing extremist militarist outpost!
Torchbearer @ #666 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 2:30 pm
I don’t see anyone here trying to exonerate any organization. But I do see a few people calling for one particular one to be banned. Why that one?
To my certain knowledge, paedophilia exists in the Boy Scout movement at levels that should be of concern. Should we ban the Boy Scouts as well?
Boerwar @ #667 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 2:31 pm
NMT? Is that the No Money Theory?
shellbell @ #669 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 11:32 am
Just in case anyone thought the Press Council had any standards. Disgusting, disgraceful decision that has already earned Australia international embarrassment. Fox / Sky / News and we can add the Australian Press Council to the bin fire of racism and right wing hate.
Do Taxes and Bonds Finance Government Spending?
Stephanie Bell
Journal of Economic Issues, 2000, vol. 34, issue 3, 603-620
The conclusion of this paper is: No, they don’t.
Taxes control inflation / maintain price stability; influence the distribution of income and wealth; and influence the behaviours of households and firms via the incentives and disincentives that the taxes create.
Bond issuance is a monetary policy instrument that is used to set an overnight interest rate.
Government spending by a currency issuer is done in this way:
The legislature authorizes spending for a particular purpose (usually called an appropriation).
The Treasury Department instructs the central bank to credit the reserve accounts of the banks of the recipients of the spending.
The banks then credit the transaction accounts of the recipients of the spending.
FS@2:19pm
For whom?
I thought I typed but obviously I missed. My apologies. Newspoll would have been worse for LNP (some thing like 55-45 for ALP) because LNP had 2 wretched weeks with focus on their corruption and incompetence.
Why?
However Ipsos poll made some usual LNP voters ( but seriously considering other options) think that things changed for LNP especially after Murdoch press went to town with Ipsos poll. They were looking for something, anything to lift their spirits. Hence, they voted the way they voted which suppressed the Newspoll vote for ALP. So in a way Costello helped LNP during one of their worst weeks. The effect of ipsos poll is such that even on ‘Insiders’ there was not much discussion on LNP corruption.
BTW this is just my theory.
Xoanon @ #671 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 2:34 pm
Leyonhjelm and his libertarian mates just about the most dangerous parliamentarians in the rats nest.
Ven, thanks for the explanation.
Player One @ #673 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 2:36 pm
If it’s found just as widespread and covered up, of course it should.
But what’s with all this deflection ?
yabba says:
Monday, February 25, 2019 at 2:32 pm
Briefly,
The RC found that 40% of the Christian Brothers Sect of the RPPS in Australia were active paedophiles. Was the Royal Commissioner stereotyping, or simply exposing ‘inherently dehumanising’ behaviour that the RPPS actively and illegally covered up over many decades (in fact, probably centuries).
What do you think should be done about such an organisation?
Good question. The RC was a starting point to the discovery of answers. This is a serious question. It’s not enough to call for the prohibition of particular institutions. That is not likely to be a solution. We would have to close every civil organisation, including scouts and sporting clubs, political parties and schools.
It would really help to separate sexual violence from religion, imo.
Implicitly, you’re close to saying that religious adherence causes sexual violence. This is self-evidently inaccurate.
ratsak @ #631 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 1:53 pm
Fixed.
Do Taxes and Bonds Finance Government Spending?
For those watching this very slow moving game at home…
We have monetarists in one corner, saying inflation is a purely monetary phenomenon (and because Govts set monetary policy via their reserve banking powers, inflation and its bad consequences is all Government’s fault).
In the other corner we have MMT which claim that inflation is purely a fiscal phenomenon (and because no amount of currency issuance will result in inflation, all unemployment is the Government’s fault).
I reckon the real answer is somewhere in between.
Nicholas @ #665 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 11:30 am
You might have also added that the chaps in The City have bled the UK Treasury of many times that amount, including, but not limited to, the privatisations of state owned assets they picked up for a song.
Someone who defends the banksters can never call themselves a “centrist”. They are way out on the far right fringes, alongside the IPA.
briefly
Why ?
Do those organisations have such a child abuse issue as recorded by the RCC ?
Of course they don’t.
Enough with the deflections and nonsense.
Boerwar says:
Monday, February 25, 2019 at 2:36 pm
autocrat
‘…the original decision to move the Villers-Bretonneux service was at the request of the local French authorities….’
Right. So we invade France! C’est la guerre!
How dare they behave as if France is not an Australian right wing extremist militarist outpost!
Morrison is a fool. I always understood that responsibility for organising Anzac Day events rested with the RSL precisely so they would be less prone to becoming politicised. He has politicised the sacramental. He really is a dolt.
BW@2:29pm
I thought one is allowed to jump only one shark in one’s life time to make it look attractive and not many sharks as you suggest Chris Kenny has done. After one shark jump people find it boring.
About RWNJ millennium, one has to be very competent to implement that kind of ideology in a democracy. And thank god we are still a democracy. Alas we know the standard of our leaders.
Player One @ #674 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 1:37 pm
New Mexico Tech? They’re going to film some explosions in slo-mo and monetize it like Mythbusters did, perhaps?
Just wondering… If PB poster Dandy Murray ate lettuce would he be a randy Dandy?
And if he ate lettuce on a beach…..
briefly2:50pm
Morrison is politicising anything and everything that is in his way because apparently that is the advice he is getting
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-25/downer-says-cheque-was-absolutely-not-commonwealth-money/10845904
“She said the Fleurieu Peninsula club had asked her to come and present a “novelty cheque” because she had worked with the club to make sure its Community Sport Infrastructure grant application was successful.”
So basically, they worked with the club so they can get automatically the grant?
Missed my guess by a whisker – never mind, the trend (flat ?) is still good.
Meanwhile:
Well, maybe. But Feinstein was, in fact, demonstrating why climate change exemplifies an issue on which older people should listen to the young. Because — to put it bluntly — older generations will be dead before the worst of it hits. The kids whom Feinstein was talking to are going to be dealing with climate chaos for the rest of their lives, as any Californian who has lived through the past few years of drought, flood, and fire must recognize.
This means that youth carry the moral authority here, and, at the very least, should be treated with the solicitousness due a generation that older ones have managed to screw over.
https://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Hard-Lessons-of-Dianne-by-Bill-McKibben-Climate_Green-New-Deal_People_Students-190224-39.html
Agree wholeheartedly – the young have the moral authority. Pity some of our politicians don’t recognise that fact also.
briefly @ #682 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 1:45 pm
Try charging and taking to court the perpetrators for a start. If there’s enough residual interst to keep the institution going whilst following the law then go for it.
Dan Gulberry
The chaps in The City were in clover under Blair. Those PPI “management” contracts meant the poor old taxpayer ended up paying 5 or 6 times what they would have for an asset. Hundreds of billions of pounds thank you very much. As for how much tax they pay, how much tax do they avoid and how much money do they transfer to tax havens ?
The Chaps at work.
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News > Long Reads
The great PFI heist
PFI debt for the British taxpayer is more than £300bn for infrastructure projects, with a value of £54.7bn.
Sir Howard Davies, chairman of the Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS), recently made an astonishing admission on BBC1’s Question Time when he stated that private finance initiatives (PFI) had been a “fraud on the people”. Beyond seemingly populist rhetoric, the real story of PFI reveals that RBS alongside other global banks, notably HSBC, were instrumental in what Sir Howard has effectively labelled a great heist.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/pfi-banks-barclays-hsbc-rbs-tony-blair-gordon-brown-carillion-capita-financial-crash-a8202661.html
Rex Douglas @ #681 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 2:43 pm
You are tackling the symptoms, not the cause. Now that’s deflection!
Rex Douglas @ #686 Monday, February 25th, 2019 – 2:50 pm
So you have a benchmark you apply? Is it 5% of members? 10%? More?
Ven
Which is why Kenny and Scrott have taken this shark business to the next level.
Speaking of who the biggest clowns writing for the Oz, Greg Sheridan and Graeme Lloyd have to be up there with the other buffoons mentioned.
They are loyal ciphers for Rupert’s views on foreign affairs and climate change, and never stray from the Murdoch paymaster.
A $50,000 donation was made to the WA Liberal Party by an elderly Chinese industrialist just days before one of his Australian business associates was appointed to a powerful diplomatic advisory board by former foreign minister Julie Bishop.
Story broke today
https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/western-australia/julie-bishop-denies-any-link-between-donation-from-elderly-chinese-mogul-and-advisor-s-appointment-20190224-p50zxe.html