12.06am. “We’re bringing back Macquarie”, says Scott Morrison in his victory speech. Not so fast — Labor have just hit the lead there. And not because of that Katoomba pre-poll booth I mentioned a few times earlier, which barely swung on two-party preferred.
11.13pm. Kerryn Phelps has her nose in front in Wentworth, but I would note that the Rose Bay pre-poll hasn’t reported yet. It wasn’t a booth at the 2016 election but was at the by-election, and when it came in, there was a pretty handy shift to the Liberals. Also outstanding is the Waverley pre-poll booth, which does a very great deal of business.
10.59pm. The Liberals have edged into the lead in Boothby, after Glenelg pre-poll swung 4% their way (though Brighton went 3% the other way).
10.57pm. Labor just hanging on in Cowan, well out of contention now in Swan, and every other WA seat they hoped to win.
10.56pm. I was suggesting Labor wasn’t home in Moreton before. Probably safe now. But Mansfield pre-poll swung 14.4% to Coalition, while Rocklea and Wooldridge didn’t move.
10.39pm. With 45.8% counted, South Australia looks like three Liberal, two Labor and one Greens. Centre Alliance performing weakly at 2.8%.
10.38pm. Oh, and by the way — Clive Palmer is on 3.4% in Queensland and is being flogged by One Nation.
10.38pm. Jacqui Lambie is on 8.7% in Tasmania and should be back. The result should go two Liberal, two Labor and one Greens. 58.2% counted.
10.35pm. One Nation are on over 10% in Queensland, where I’m inclined to think the most likely result is Coalition two, Labor two, Greens one, One Nation one, with 33.4% counted.
10.34pm. Looks like three Coalition, two Labor and one Greens in Victoria too, with 32.4% counted. But maybe Labor could take a third seat off the Coalition, if their position improves as more metropolitan votes come in. No one else is cracking 3%.
10.32pm. Some early indications from the Senate. Starting in New South Wales, with 35.6% counted. One Nation aren’t doing great at 5%; United Australia Party tanking on 1.4%. Looks like three Coalition, two Labor and one Greens.
10.30pm. Labor leads 1.3% in Lilley, which Nine projects down to 0.5%. One pre-poll in swung slightly more heavily than the 5.2% norm; two more are still to come.
10.28pm. Labor leads 2.3% in Blair, which the Nine computer projects down to 0.9%. One pre-poll booth, Ipswich South, swung typically; two more are outstanding.
10.21pm. That Katoomba pre-poll booth in Macquarie which Anthony Albanese said had swung heavily to Labor still isn’t in the system. Labor has a raw lead of 1.3% lead there, but absent pre-polls (Katoomba and five others), the Nine computer projects absolutely nothing in it.
10.19pm. A 9.8% swing has reduced Labor to a 4.9% lead in Hunter, projected to be 2.7%. Should be okay for them, but the one pre-poll booth swung 14.1%, and there are eight still to come, whih are worth keeping at least half an eye on.
10.16pm. Labor leads 2.8% in Eden-Monaro, Nine computer projects 1.3%, 1.6% swing to Liberal. There are eight pre-polls, none of which have reported.
10.14pm. Labor leads by 2.0% in Dobell after a 3.5% swing to Liberal, with the Nine computer projecting 1.4%. Two pre-polls, Tuggerah and The Entrance, have swung normally. Pre-polls yet to come from Charmhaven and Gosford.
10.10pm. Independent Helen Haines holds what the Nine booth projects as a 1.8% lead in Indi: two pre-polls in, Wodonga, which swung heavily to Liberal, and Mansfield, which swung only very slightly (by swing here, I mean compared with Cathy McGowan’s margin of 4.8%). Wangaratta pre-poll still to come. Very much too close to call.
10.04pm. The Nine computer now projects a tiny lead for the Liberals in Chisholm. Four pre-polls still to come may decide the result. The one pre-poll that has reported, Blackburn North, swung 1.6% to Labor.
10.02pm. The yo-yo of Swan has swung back in favour of the Liberals, while Labor maintains only a fragile lead in Cowan. Still nothing in it in Boothby, Labor very slightly ahead.
9.44pm. Labor has very tenuous leads in Blair and Lilley, so there’s certainly paths to a Coalition majority. Other seats the Liberals wouldn’t be giving up on include Corangamite, Eden-Monaro and Moreton.
9.42pm. Now it’s getting very close in Chisholm. Other seats the Liberals wouldn’t be giving up on yet include Corangamite, Dobell, Eden-Monaro,
9.39pm. Spoke too soon about Swan — close again now.
9.34pm. Particularly remarkable results from scanning around include double-digit two-party swings against Labor in Hunter, Capricornia and, would you believe it, Dawson. The latter two suggest a very strong Adani effect.
9.30pm. Another blow for Labor with Swan now looking beyond their reach. However, they have moved ahead in Cowan, so it looks like status quo in WA.
9.21pm. Anthony Albanese just said on Nine that there is a big swing to Labor on the Katoomba pre-poll centre in Macquarie, which is not in the system yet. That should save Labor’s bacon there.
9.17pm. Very advanced stage of the count in Bass, with even the pre-polls in, and Labor look too far behind.
9.05pm. Both Labor-held Cowan and Liberal-held Swan are very close, but Liberals looking good in Hasluck, Pearce and Stirling. At best though, a net gain of one for Labor in WA.
8.54pm. And if all goes well for the Liberals in WA, the door widens a little on the prospect of a Coalition majority.
8.51pm. First results look encouraging for Christian Porter in Pearce. Ditto Stirling, but very few votes there. Some results in Cowan, looks close, but too early to be meaningful. First booth looks good for Liberal in Hasluck. Individually all too early to say, but collectively discouraging for the notion that WA might save the day for Labor.
8.48pm. Given pre-polls heavily favoured the Liberals at the Wentworth by-election, I would read the present lineball result as somewhat encouraging for the Liberals.
8.45pm. Haven’t said a thing about Wentworth — it looks very, very tight. A number of the independents failed to mark much of a mark, including Kevin Mack in Farrer and Rob Oakeshott in Cowper.
8.38pm. Labor looks okay in Solomon; the CLP leads on the raw vote in Lingiari, but the Nine computer projects them ahead, because these are mostly conservative booths from Katherine and such.
8.29pm. Another big picture overview. In New South Wales, Labor wins Gilmore but loses Lindsay; Tony Abbott loses Warringah. Labor-held Macquarie could go either way. Labor wins Chisholm, Corangamite and Dunkley. Tasmania: Labor loses Braddon and looking shaky in Bass. Queensland: Labor to lose Herbert and Longman, Leichhardt looking unlikely now. In South Australia, the potential Labor gain of Boothby is lineball. Talk that Labor is in danger in Lingiari, but the Nine computer projects them in the lead, and there’s nothing from Solomon yet. Nothing meaningful yet from Western Australia. My best guess remains that the Coalition will land just short of a majority, but the wild cards of WA and pre-polls remain in the deck.
8.20pm. By best guess is that the Coalition will land a few seats short of a majority, but again: nothing yet from WA, and the possibility it will play out differently on pre-polls. The likely cross bench: Adam Bandt, Zali Steggall, Bob Katter, Andrew Wilkie, Rebekha Sharkie … possibly Helen Haines, probably not Kerryn Phelps.
8.14pm. I’ve been doing real work for the last half hour, but the situation hasn’t fundamentally changed: a few gains for Labor in Victoria, maybe a net gain for the Coalition in New South Wales, Braddon and possibly Bass lost by Labor in Tasmania as well, and a net loss for Labor in Queensland. Boothby lineball though, and Labor praying for gains in Western Australia and a favourable dynamic on pre-polls.
7.48pm. Macquarie lineball, but looking better for Labor than earlier.
7.46pm. Also, the first results in Boothby are good for Labor.
7.45pm. Looking better for Labor now in Lilley though.
7.40pm. Labor should gain three in Victoria; but only Gilmore looks strong in NSW, they look like losing Lindsay, and they’re in trouble in Macquarie. In Queensland, the Nine computer has Labor behind in Blair, Herbert, and Longman, but it’s not calling any of them. However, they are running Warren Entsch close in Leichhardt.
7.33pm. I’m certainly not seeing any gains for Labor in Queensland, and they’re in trouble in Herbert, Longman and Lilley. But Tony Abbott is clearly gone in Warringah.
7.29pm. Looks close in Herbert, but Labor are struggling in Queensland in some surprising places: Lilley
7.26pm. Labor should win Chisholm, Dunkley and Corangamite, but the seats further down the pendulum in Victoria don’t appear to be swinging
7.23pm. Lineball in Macquarie as well.
7.22pm. Looking dicey for Labor in Lindsay as well.
7.21pm. Still nothing in it in Bass, Liberals looking like winning Braddon.
7.19pm. Early assessment: it’s going to be close. Labor far from assured of a majority.
7.18pm. But it’s looking good for Labor in Gilmore.
7.13pm. Early days, but I’m not seeing any great wave to Labor. They are struggling in the two northern Tasmanian seats, and only looking really good in Corangamite in Victoria. And it looks close early in Griffith, a seat they hold in Queensland.
7.12pm. Early indications are that it’s close in Chisholm – six booths in on primary, two on two-party (50 in total).
7.09pm. Labor have moved ahead on Nine’s projection in Bass, but remain behind in Braddon.
7.08pm. If nothing else, the news from Queensland is consistently looking good for the Coalition.
7.06pm. The swing to LNP in Bonner I noted earlier has come off, now looking status quo (LNP margin 3.4%).
7.05pm. Dreadful early numbers for Tony Abbott, who trails 40.3% to 32.5% on the raw primary vote with five booths out of 50 in.
7.02pm. The Nine computer sees a 3.9% swing to Labor in Corangamite, where there is no margin.
7.01pm. Related by Chris Uhlmann, Labor believes they have won Corangamite. But the overall picture in Queensland for the Coalition looks strong, as per the exit poll result.
7.00pm. Early numbers looking encouraging for Peter Dutton in Dickson — a swing approaching 5% in his favour off four booths.
6.58pm. Labor look to have the edge in Gilmore, with 13 booths out of 66 on the primary vote – Liberal down 17.4% of which 12.7% has gone to the Nationals, while Labor are down very slightly. Ex-Liberal independent Grant Schultz only on 5.3%.
6.56pm. Four booths in from Braddon, and Labor looks in trouble. One booth in from Bass, swing looks almost exactly equal to the Labor margin.
6.54pm. Based on four primary vote results and a speculative preference throw, the Nine computer sees a 4.25% swing to Labor in La Trobe, suggesting it will be tight.
6.52pm. First two-party result in Bonner is encouraging for LNP incumbent Ross Vasta.
6.51pm. The first two-party booth from Corangamite, which is obviously in the country, has swung 5.4% to Labor.
6.50pm. Little swing in Macquarie with three booths in on two-party (it goes without saying these are small ones).
6.47pm. Gilmore looks close with eight booths out of 66 in on the primary vote.
6.43pm. First two booths from Kooyong, albeit very small ones, look encouraging for Josh Frydenberg.
6.42pm. Promising early numbers for independent Helen Haines in Indi, with 13 bush booths in on the primary vote.
6.38pm. Some fairly encouraging early numbers for Nationals member Kevin Hogan in Page, a marginal seat in northern New South Wales that Labor was never confident about.
6.35pm. Over 1000 votes in from Calare, and early indications are Nationals incumbent Andrew Gee will keep enough of his primary vote to hold off Shooters, if they indeed make it ahead of Labor to reach the final count. Early days yet though.
5.45pm. Welcome to live blogging of the federal election count. I have been working in what little time I have had to spare on an election results facility, but I probably won’t be able to get it in action this evening. However, I should be able to make it functional for the count after election night. Similarly, I may or may not find time to do some live blogging this evening, in between my duties as a behind-the-scenes operator for the Nine Network’s coverage. Speaking of, the YouGov Galaxy exit poll for Nine, from a sample of about 3300, has Labor leading 52-48, which I’m pretty sure presumes to be effectively nationally, even though only specific marginal seats have been targeted. State by state though, the swing is, as expected, uneven: 52-48 to Labor in New South Wales (2.5% swing to Labor), 55-45 in Victoria (3.2% swing to Labor), 53-47 to Coalition in Queensland (a swing to the Coalition of 1.1%), and 52-48 to Labor in the other three states combined (a swing to Labor of 2.5%).
Itzadream
Nothing stupid about being optimistic.
It’s just disappointing when it doesn’t go the way we would like.
And my final post for the night because I am full of booze and it’s getting late:
I was wrong. I looked at polling and betting odds and, while ignoring anecdotes and feels, got caught in the group confidence. Combined with the fact that Morrison pretty much had no margin of error, I stayed confident of a Labor win until the end. There was evidence I could be wrong and I certainly took it on board and didn’t ignore it but ultimately, I decided it was more likely than not that Labor would win and that’s where I placed my cards. I willingly accept all egg on my face for being wrong there.
Night all.
“AE
Why is it you are all for surrendering to the LNP agenda?
That’s your argument. Labor can’t win on its agenda. Can’t have Class Warfare. Can’t have unions breaking the law for a good cause etc etc.
If Labor listens to you no wonder they lost”
For the hard of thinking, again. I am suggesting that Labor focus on Laborism to the exclusion of all other considerations until it earns the trust of the Australian people to form a government again.
Your team can to the virtue signalling, identity politics by yourselves.
We are going to win but focusing exclusively on the things that everyday people in the middle and outer suburbs and in regional centres focus on: jobs, better pay and better services. That and being 100% negative about this Charlaton government until it imposes under the weight of its own vacuous corruption and stench and as the economy tanks.
Climate change will be confined to jamming the NEG up the authors is of that policy’s arse. That it. Sorry, but coal isn’t dead until the customers say it is.
I’m not going to be able to sleep for a while I imagine, unfortunately, but my strategy is going to be to stay up until 5am, watch Eurovision live, be distracted by bright shiny things for a few hours and then collapse in bed when I can no longer stay awake.
Now, what to do for the next 4 hours?
If Labor and their supporters keeps blaming everybody and everything else for a loss that should never have happened then they will keep losing.
The real reason for losing to a total sitting duck govt is entirely with who Labor is, their relationship to Australia and Australians. If they don’t look at this then they are mugs.
Too easy to blame everything else as we are seeing a lot of here – instead of looking in the mirror.
Clearly there is a gap between Labor policy and Ideology and Australians.
Honestly – this Govt was a total sitting duck – a push over victory, all you had to be is less of a problem than the govt, which should have been easy – but the public decided they would rather have a poor govt than this Labor.
Can’t see this was a good night for GetUp or the much vaunted “ground game” of the unions.
Night Victoria. Night all. Thanks again to the ground crew.
In Wentworth, I see Sharma has 46% primary, but is still trailing Phelps on 2PP.
That’s some serious discipline from the rest of the electorate to preference Phelps.
I’ll take that as another way of saying what I am saying Salk.
Unless you think I’m missing something.
The libs/nats can not blame Labor,
if Unemployment continues to rise,
can not blame Labor if electricity continues to rise ,
can not blame Labor if Australia goes on to recession,
can not blame Labor if cost of living rises,
can not blame Labor if debt and deficit continues to rise,
can not blame Labor if there is no surplus,
can not blame Labor if carbon emissions continues to rise,
libs/nats , media and Australians who voted for libs/nats should be blame
The pollsters were clearly fudging their numbers to get the results that they thought ‘looked’ right.
And the gamblers (and commentators) were just following the pollsters.
“The real reason for losing to a total sitting duck govt is entirely with who Labor is, their relationship to Australia and Australians”
Yep, agreed. We tried the method of going down the progressive path, and it failed. I agree with A-E. Jobs it is. In the Anglo world in recent times the left had only been successful when it’s focused on jobs, in the main.
We can deal with the other stuff when we win an election.
RL,
I switch pseudonyms regularly after being forced. It’s an appalling action to take on anyone.
Cat, go easy on yourself for the next little while, ok 🙂
Everyone,
No-one becomes leader of a nation by being an idiot. Deceiteful, sly, or outright lying for sure, but not an idiot. Never, never underestimate your enemy.
“The libs/nats can not blame Labor,”
But they will
Hinch did rather poorly in Victoria.
I’m so sad tonight, the new way forward fell over at the last hurdle.
But to the posters that do the Green and Labor Hyperbowl….
yer stupid…
yer basic…
The real enemy has always been in plain sight.
The sun will come up tomorrow. Australia will go on much the same as if Labor had won. Labor should look at it as a Large Improvement Opportunity. Become who you are.
Just a theory. Polling is now irrevocabley broken because a significant chunk of the electorate now realise that their participation in polling is effectively feeding data to the political class that enables them to game the system.
So in response, these people are pushing back by refusing to participate in polls. This effectively renders polling as unrepresentative and probably now represents the end of polling as a reliable forecasting tool for election outcomes.
I am pleased some posters here are outing themselves as not being progressive. Take note people.
Be yourself don’t pretend to be something you are not
Any of you here who voted Lib or Nats or RW nutters, you are dog excrement on my shoe.
Just to be clear about the matter. People are going to die because of your vote. It is a simple fact.
You will never be forgiven. All your names should be inscribed on a marble wall so coming generations will know who to blame and can curse you for your legacy.
You have your money and your illusion of safety from the big scary world. I have my pride and the knowledge that I tried to save this planet and this country.
I will do nothing now because there is nothing left to be done. I will just look upon you with disdain and contempt.
To paraphrase The Bible, ‘wipe the dust of the village from your feet as you leave and do not look back’.
This is the second federal election in a row I have followed whilst overseas.
I am gutted. This is the most harrowing of losses.
Each election I convince myself there are more young people eligible to vote and surely they are progressive enough to vote green or labor.
Each election I am disappointed!
I like to ask the LNP voters what have the past 6 years been like and what has the government achieved. Name me one policy.
I bet most of these zombies cannot name one meaningful change in their lives.
Quick summary of defeated MPs and senators:
MPs: definite – Tony Abbott (Lib), Cathy O’Toole (ALP), Susan Lamb (ALP), Ross Hart (ALP), Justine Keay (ALP), Chris Crewther (Lib), Sarah Henderson (Lib), Julia Banks (Ind); possible – Susan Templeman (ALP), Kerryn Phelps (Ind), Anne Aly (ALP).
Senators: definite – Duncan Spender (LDP), Brian Burston (UAP), Jim Molan (Lib), Ian Macdonald (LNP), Fraser Anning (CNP), Lucy Gichuhi (Lib), Steve Martin (Nat), Lisa Singh (ALP), Derryn Hinch (DHJP), Peter Georgiou (PHON); possible – Chris Ketter (ALP), Gavin Marshall (ALP). This is assuming no below-the-line surprises, and looking at the totals I doubt it could possibly matter anyway.
Everyone else has been re-elected. That’s a pretty tiny number of casualties in the House, and a comparatively large number in the Senate. Considerable thinning out on the crossbench. I wonder what happens to the Hinch MLCs in Victoria now.
The Liberals don’t know how to deal with a recession and we’ll be back at the polls in a year or two. # prediction
I believe now that the Australian Labor Party needs somebody like Jeremy Corbyn or Bernie Sanders who can connect to voters in Queensland, Northern Tasmania and Western Sydney. However do I believe such a leader will arise, I doubt it. I predicted privately this election would result in the destruction eventually of either major party, now after the results it likely it will be the Australian Labor Party that will be destroyed eventually.
I called this result last Sunday night on twitter.
Dave Donovan actually blocked me for saying the Libs were going to win.
When I said it again during the week I got called a bed wetter! More than once.
No one’s more disappointed than me.
I hope the ALP advertising director is homeless in the future because this will surely be the outcome for many older Australians as a result of this loss. Homelessness and absolute poverty for some just like in the USA and increasingly Britain.
The factional warlords from NSW did their bit by deposing a guy who spoke 5 languages and replacing him with a shop steward. Now WE reap what they sowed.
Envy got us here.
What will go on is the continued spiral of political dysfunction.
There is now no pathway to a better politics.
We will be electing a reality TV star and/or comedian leading a bunch of weirdo no-hopers real soon now.
Scratch that. A world war would probably reset the dynamics. Let’s go cheer on Bolton and Trump shall we?
Tristo, so Albo?
Sanders and Corbyn have consistently lost, though.
Have a good look at the variation of swings around the country. There seems to be a strange combination of several things (a sum of several terms:
a – a strong swing to the right in seats that involve coal mining (various QLD seats + Hunter)
b – a small swing to the left generally
c – random variation with amplitude very much greater than one would normally see
Of these:
a – has the obvious explanation (the combination of the Greens’ Adani stunt pissing people off and a failure by the ALP to counter by explaining how they would look after the interests of those affected)
b – is normal – there will be some sort of underlying swing one way or another, and a lacklustre campaign will result in it being small
c – is the dominant term in the swing (except in electorates dominated by effect a) and is very unusual if the results as currently reported are an accurate sample of the final results
Antony Green has tweeted that tonight’s seat numbers are almost exactly the same as 2016. The difference is in expectations.
Have a look in the mirror Puffy you and your ilk are the reason the ALP lost because you scare people. Your fault mate, seriously.
Tristo
I would not bother . This country does not deserve a good progressive government.
Australians do not deserve a decent Labor government. Let the fuckers lay in the bed they have made.
@Seth
Albo is honestly the closest the Labor Party has to those men. It is notable that the British Labour Party in the 2017 election won big majorities in electorates which voted strongly for Brexit.
Actually I sense something in Albo I don’t in other potential Labor leaders, something that John Curtin had. I argue if he had been Labor leader, Labor would have won in landslide tonight.
Puffy for next ALP leader. That will help with the Qld, West Syd and Nth Tas vote.
A sad day for Australia.When I came here I thought it was a progressive country.Now its a country stuck in the 1950s ignorant on climate change and the forces of greed when it comes to looking after others.The country is now on its way to recession and its every person for him or herself. I dont see a return of Labor for who knows how long.This was the worst government in living memory with no policies just negativity and they still win. We have gone from a second rate government to a third rate government who are all about self self self and greed greed greed.The punters have to take the responsibility too.For me Australia is politically finished.My heart goes to out to all Labor supporters here on PB who must be devastated tonight.I wish you all the very best as this will be my last post on this site.Goodnight and goodbye from me.
“the combination of the Greens’ Adani stunt pissing people off and a failure by the ALP to counter by explaining how they would look after the interests of those affected”
Looks like it. And looking after the people can’t just be “we’ll retain you as something, that probably pays 1/3 of what you get now”
Guytaur: the ALP went as progressive as they reasonably could. They lost. If we want a progressive program, the left need to win first.
And a shame that Lisa Singh didn’t get up in Tasmania.
Albo is a fraud.
Additional notes on defeated MPs and senators:
Of the 11 possible or definite losses in the House, 9 were first-term MPs. Not a good night for the sophomore surge.
Of the 12 possible or definite losses in the Senate, 5 were section 44 substitutions. Of the 10 senators elected as a result of section 44, 5 were defeated, one resigned made way for his predecessor (Bartlett), one was elected to the lower house (Smith), one retired (Storer) and two were re-elected (Colbeck and Steele-John).
Andrew – These things work in very long cycles.The great depression brought an end to the dominance of classical economics, the second world war required a huge collective government planned effort and those two events ushered in the dominance of social democracy.
Then came the 73 war and the spike in the price of oil which did two things, it introduced high inflation into the highly regulated western economies and it also robbed those economies of the very thing that was allowing for big increases in real wages without having to work harder ie cheap energy.
Inflation had to be tackled and productivity would have to lift if living standards were not going to stagnate. Hawke was hoping to tackle this by going down a continental path, but culturally Australia defaults to the anglosphere and classical economics ie neo liberalism was making a resurgence and so down that path we headed.
Sadly we are going to have to work within that framework until the whole thing goes pop which it will because the global economy only avoided 1929 with money printing, zero interest rates and lots of other technocratic tricks.They just kicked th can down the road by bailing out banks with monopoly money.
Exactly when it implodes I can’t say I don’t know enough about banking,but it will and when it does the neo liberal era will recede, I have no idea if I will live to see it but my kids will.
“I am pleased some posters here are outing themselves as not being progressive. Take note people.
Be yourself don’t pretend to be something you are not”
Mate. I am as disappointed as you that a big picture, progressive targeted campaign didn’t work. It’s just that I’m not prepared to reinforce failure to appear pure. The whole raison de atre of Labor is to reform society for the betterment of its ordinary everyday citizens. But nothing can be achieved from the opposition benches that’s worth a pinch of shit.
This election proves that labor has to take care of first things first: attack an incompetent and corrupt government’s jugular and focus on the everyday things that voters in the middle and outer suburbs and regional centres WANT their government to deliver.
Win, the fulfil those basic demands of the voters and the you have earned the respect and latitude to do big picture stuff.
‘Climate emergencies’ is left wing shenanigans. Not because of the science, but the political science and in a democracy I’m afraid to say, political science trumps actual science.
Have to say that the stop Adani convoy clearly was a complete and utter failure, if anything galvanizing people in CQ to vote conservative. One of the most brain dead and counter-intuitive protests I’ve seen in a long time
The funny thing is Morrison locked in 80billion or more of spending hoping to nobble an ALP government. Now he has to deal with it without any extra tevenue raising capacity.
I am going to laugh my guts up as he cuts and slices his way to a surplus (haha now he has to deliver it) and people start screaming like banshees.
“Albo”
Maybe. Maybe he would have knocked all the climate change Adani stuff on the head. He was in favour of the horses on the Opera house after all.
So, of its Corbyn or Sanders the people want, why didn’t the Greens go gang busters? Or were they not progressive enough even?
Christ, I sound like a right wing nut job. I’m just so angry right now.
Blobbit
You are wrong
No nationalise the electricity sector for starters. Not even after the LNP promised it.
Now we are going to get the LNP nationalisation version just to prop up coal.
I wonder how many votes Labor would have got if it promised put all Dental Care under Medicare for example? Labor could have been more aggressive in a lot of policy areas. Another one. A People’s bank. Added advantage that was also One Nation policy. Could have got One Nation voters voting Labor.
Nath,
You know that remark of mine that people who did not vote Labor are excrement on my shoe?
I mean it.
“The funny thing is Morrison locked in 80billion or more of spending hoping to nobble an ALP government”
They just won’t spend it. The only thing that’ll lose them an election is a mass of job losses, or another couple of terms of the LNP, and a Labor leader like Rudd who just promises right wing economics with a few nice social policies over the top.
The Tories went into this campaign with two policies… I’ll repeat that two policies. One was a half baked home loan subsidy that would effect 10000 people and the other was tax cuts to corporations and millionaires. Those who fail to remember the mistakes of history are condemned to repeat them. Err Fightback in 1993? Labor must not make this mistake next time. Go in with the boots concerning Tory policy, trust me there wil lbe plenty on offer here, but tell the punters nothing about what we propose to do. If the MSM or Morrison complain… point to this campaign and the Tory policy credentials.
PuffyTMD
says:
Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 1:15 am
Nath,
You know that remark of mine that people who did not vote Labor are excrement on my shoe?
I mean it.
______________________
I know u do. that’s what a fanatic always thinks.
“I believe now that the Australian Labor Party needs somebody like Jeremy Corbyn or Bernie Sanders who can connect to voters in Queensland, Northern Tasmania and Western Sydney.”
You were watching how Bob Brown and Pepe were received by ordinary voters in Central Queensland weren’t you?
Don’t you think that a search for another Bob Hawke (or someone at least 10% as good as bob was, because lets face it: he was a once in a lifetime politician) would be a better way for labor to be relatable to those voters?
I reckon that Chalmers might well be that leader. He’s certainly more relatable for them than say Tanya or Albo. Let alone any of the other prospective contenders.