The latest fortnightly poll from Essential Research finds 75% support for a net zero carbon pollution target by 2050, with only 25% opposed; 32% wishing to see coal-fired power plants phased out as soon as possible and another 47% wanting an end to subsidies and government support, compared with 21% wanting government support for both existing and new plants; and 80% support for the government preventing people entering the country from China due to coronavirus, with only 6% opposed. There are further questions and breakdowns in the report, but not a lot to get excited about on the whole – I can only beseech the pollster to bite the bullet and get back in the voting intention game.
To add more meat to this post, I will instead probe deeper into the report on the political impact of the bushfires published last week by the Australian National University’s Centre for Social Research and Methods. This was based on a regular panel survey conducted by the centre on a roughly quarterly basis, largely dealing with questions such as satisfaction with governments, public institutions and life in general. Since most of the respondents had also completed previous surveys, the report is able to explore changes in voting intention and attitudes over time. On this occasion, the survey was supplemented by questions on respondents’ exposure to the bushfires.
The study found a slump in electoral support for the Coalition, from 42.6% in the October survey to 37.2%, with Labor up from 33.7% to 35.8%, the Greens up from 14.4% to 14.7% (which is obviously too high at both ends) and others up from 9.3% to 11.2% (after excluding non-respondents, of which there were 5.1% in October and 6.6% in January). However, it did not find evidence that the fall in Coalition support was particularly pronounced among those who had been exposed to the bushfires.
Some of the factors that did associate with defection from the Coalition suggest an intensification of trends evident at the election, with university-educated voters more likely to have abandoned the Coalition and voters aged 75 and over less likely to have done so. However, the Coalition had a particular drop in support outside capital cities, though not in a way that suggested exposure to the fires was the reason. Out of the sample of 618 Coalition defectors, 43.9% supported Labor, 14.3% the Greens and 24.7% others, with the remainder uncommitted.
Consistent with the findings of the Ipsos Issues Monitor survey in January, the number of respondents rating environmental issues as the first or second most important facing the country rose from 41.5% in the October survey to 49.7%. For whatever reason, there was a significant effect here for indirect exposure to the bushfire (having friends or family whose properties were damaged or threatened, having travel plans affected, or exposure to smoke or anxiety), but not for direct exposure. However, as the report notes, what the survey registered as concern for environmental issues extended to blaming “the greenies” for the extent of the fires.
Support for new coal mines was down from 45.3% in the June survey to 37.0%, with the fall particularly pronounced among Coalition voters, down from 71.8% to 57.5%. However, those directly exposed to the bushfires who had expressed support for coal mines in June were relatively resistant to this trend.
Believe it or not, this from the generally very hostile MSNBC:
“Some Democrats are freaking out now that Bernie Sanders is the frontrunner for the nomination, but the polling data doesn’t support their fears that he would lose and lose big against Trump”.
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/panic-over-sanders-unsupported-by-data-79372869895
Yessirrebob @ #449 Wednesday, February 26th, 2020 – 7:10 pm
The Sussex St mob has a unique way of fostering social mobility don’t they ‘bob’.
“Mexicanbeemersays:
Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 7:12 pm
Blobbit
Or if they focused on service delivery instead of slipping into us against them language.”
Yup. Symbolism matters, unfortunately.
The right has amply demonstrated that.
spr
Australia is 11th on that list.
Punching above our weight.
Y
Can you provide a link to the latest ALP constitution/manifesto to that effect, viz removal of “democratic socialism”?
From a leading US Fund manager MFS:
Think markets are tumbling because of coronavirus? Robert Almeida, global investment strategist at the $800 billion US funds management titan MFS, says you should think again.
He argues the virus outbreak is simply a catalyst for the exposure of the misallocation of capital that happens in every late-cycle market. The coronavirus has shaken global markets, but it’s not the fundamental problem. In the dot com bubble it was the misallocation of capital into tech, media and telco stocks.
Prior to the GFC, too much money went into the US housing market and fixed-interest products leveraged to that.
This time, Almeida argues, too much capital has been allocated to companies that have used debt and financial engineering (including the controversial practice of reverse factoring) to pump up their profits, and have then handed too much of those profits back to investors, instead of re-investing them.
He says the coronavirus is forcing investors to reassess the durability of the returns they’ve been getting – and investors don’t like what they see.
“Coronavirus might be the spark that lights the fire, but from my vantage point what you have is an overvalued financial market landscape, with deteriorating cash flow that you’re getting in return for this,” Almeida said at the Active Advantage event in Melbourne on Wednesday, after another ugly sell-off on Wall Street spilled into Australia’s markets.
“Valuations were excessive. Whether it was the coronavirus or something else, I think markets are mean-reverting to where they should.”
Wall Street’s losses for the week now sit at 7.3 per cent; the ASX 200 is down 6.2 per cent since Friday.
P, my maternal Grandmother was born in Romania also, she moved to Vienna as a child, and fled Austria one month before Krystal Nacht. She and her three sisters were the only ones of her family that made it out. One of my Brothers best Mates also fled the Romanian Communist regime as a kid. He doesn’t have much good to say about that Mob.
Needless to say that the only instance where I have seen “socialism” work in any way, is on a micro level, such as a Kibbutz.
AFAIK The ALP National Conference is held every three years, the last one was in 2018.
2018 documents are still operational so to speak.
https://www.alp.org.au/media/1539/2018_alp_national_platform_constitution.pdf
Yessirrebob et al.
You might want to check whether you’re going by the same definition of socialism as each other :P.
Y
Except for my father and his parents, all his side of the family were wiped out in the holocaust. After the war my father was stateless…Switzerland kicked him out…..he chose Australia as his destination….worked in factories to pay off his assisted passage….his parents followed him later.
Rex, I live in Victoria, you’d have to speak from someone with links to the NSW branch for that.
Peg, I can only go by the Members that I have spoken to.
Besides, we all know in practice that the ALP is more into Keynsian economics as a way to foster better conditions for working people
‘spr
Iran: 95 cases, 15 deaths’
Spot the fake news.
Bob Brown Foundation forest protesters no longer face big fines after regulator withdraws ban
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-26/bob-brown-foundation-worksafe-ban-thrown-out/12003392
P, for my Grandmother (her sisters staid in the UK) Australia was the furthest place away from the Germans that she could think of.
Iran stats: 95 cases 15 deaths.
…assuming the number of deaths is correct then the number of cases, consistent with everywhere else, would be around 750.
Y
My father was given a choice between Australia, UK, NZ, USA, Canada…he was attracted to the wide open spaces of the Australian landscape.
Underemployment in Australia is on the rise and it may only get worse, experts say
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-26/underemployment-on-the-rise-and-may-get-worse/12003092
P, and he made the right choice.
Thanks to the Bludgers who shared their family stories of getting away from the devastation of WW2 Europe, interesting reading.
bw
By George! You’ve blown the lid off the whole conspiracy.
Coronavirus CORVID-19 symptoms, when should you see a doctor and how the infection spreads
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-26/coronavirus-symptoms-treatment-death-toll-spread-china/12003152
I had a laugh this afternoon. Nephew takes a booking for a site in the trailer park. They arrive; they were in their early twenties. Escorting them to their site, they said it was “great”. A half an hour thereafter they came to the office complaining that the place was full of “oldies”, whereupon they demanded a refund, which was duly complied with – the customer’s always right.
Pegasus says:
Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 7:44 pm
Coronavirus CORVID-19 symptoms, when should you see a doctor and how the infection spreads
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-26/coronavirus-symptoms-treatment-death-toll-spread-china/12003152
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very similar symptoms to the last pandemic
H1N1pdm09 virus 2009/2010
Too early for a tune?
The co-writer of an important song in my life has died.
Mazzy Star. Fade Into You
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-uJ61jgFCMM
“ You do realise the ALP manifesto of years long gone ….
https://www.alp.org.au/media/1574/alp_national_constitution.pdf
ALP National Constitution December 2018
The Australian Labor Party is a democratic socialist party and has the objective of the democratic socialisation of industry, production, distribution and exchange, to the extent necessary to eliminate exploitation and other anti-social features in these fields.
There were moves afoot to expunge the S word from its constitution. Has it done so now?”
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I’m amazed you aren’t a member, lil’ Green pony. … I suspect it’s because you are too busy keeping the aspidistras flying …
Me? One of the highlights of the year for the past 30 years is receiving my party card for the next year and then inking out that stupid cant with a permanent marking pen.
Contemporary relevance, comrades. Contemporary relevance.
Firefox:
Well as with chemotherapy it’s often the lowest (“weakest”) effective dose/policy that’s needed, not psuedo-macho crap.
It may or may not be appropriate to remove NG entirely, partially or not at all (NG has a very limited effect in the absence of an excessive CGT discount)
Eliminating the CGT discount completely and replacing it with nothing at all does not make any sense at all, unless one’s principal desire is to punish certain types of economic activity and otherwise damn the torpedoes.
Speaking of the US election process, on the Simpsons at the Moment, to quote the blurb “Homer becomes the host of a political talk show, starts an “everyman” movement in Springfield, and ends up hand picking Ted Nugent as Republican nomination.
They predicted Trump, will this one also come to fruition ?
Hillary will support Bernie if he’s the nominee:
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/movies/trump-is-a-clear-and-present-danger-to-the-world-clinton-on-war-path-in-berlin-20200226-p544k4.html
Simon Katich
A top song.
Mavis
There’s nothing quite carries the weight of a grudging offer of support from a proven loser.
Bellwether:
[‘There’s nothing quite carries the weight of a grudging offer of support from a proven loser.’]
Be nice.
‘Bellwether says:
Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 8:25 pm
Mavis
There’s nothing quite carries the weight of a grudging offer of support from a proven loser.’
Bellwether is clearly referring to Sander’s support for Clinton after she beat him in the primaries.
” The Greens will phase out the 50 per cent capital gains tax discount to ease pressure on Australia’s unaffordable housing market, generating savings of $119.5 billion over ten years.
The concession would be reduced by 10 per cent every year for five years and would run parallel with the Greens plan to phase out negative gearing.”
Excellent policy.
Boerwar
Sanders willingly did countless rallies for Clinton after she won the nomination, you’ve got your facts wrong.
Bellwether @ #484 Wednesday, February 26th, 2020 – 8:40 pm
But not his supporters.
Bob Brown Foundation activist ban on protesting in Tasmanian forest lifted by court
WorkSafe Tasmania last week issued a ban on the protesters over ‘unsafe behaviours’ and threatened fines of up to $500,000
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/26/bob-brown-foundation-activist-ban-on-protesting-in-tasmanian-forest-lifted-by-court
“It prompted legal action from the foundation, with Bob Brown labelling the edict unconstitutional.
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Brown said anti-logging activists in the northwest Tarkine rainforest remain undeterred.
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The foundation argued the ban was too broad-ranging and was contrary to the constitution because it stopped communication about political matters.”
Poroti
Yes. A great song for a heady time. I remember seeing it for the first time, on Rage. A dreamy song for the early hours.
They say Roback was the multi-instrumentalist of the two. But not only did Hope’s voice take it to the stars, she also played the Tamborine like an angel. And harmonica! Not all at once – obviously.
Labor won’t focus on ‘just transition’ for coal workers despite union requests
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/unions-fears-for-coal-power-workers-not-on-labor-s-policy-agenda-20200226-p544nl.html
“Federal Labor’s regional jobs taskforce won’t focus on major unions’ calls for a “just transition” plan for the 8000 workers in coal-fired power plants, many of whom are expected to lose their jobs in the next 15 years.
Labor’s Regional Jobs Taskforce was announced by Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese last week, when he committed the party to a net zero emissions policy by 2050.
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Two major unions, the CFMEU and ACTU, have lobbied since 2016 for Australia’s 8000 coal power plant workers to be covered by a “just transition” policy like Germany rolled out for its 20,000 brown coal workers – which included salaried retirement for those aged over 55, and job placement and retraining options for all workers.”
BW
85% of those who voted for Sanders in the primaries voted for Hillary in November. Sanders spoke at over 40 rallies for Hillary compared to approx 6 by Hillary for Obama in 2008.
The Sanders team warned Hillary of the need to campaign in Wisconsin and Michigan. They were ignored and the rest is history.
At the moment Sanders is leading Trump in Michigan and Pennsylvania and depending on which poll just behind or just in front of Trump in Wisconsin. A long way to go but there is no reason to suggest at this stage Trump wins easily if Sanders is the nominee.
Boerwar @ #466 Wednesday, February 26th, 2020 – 6:32 pm
You’re reading it wrong. It says:
95 cases, 2 deaths due to coronavirus, 13 state-sanctioned killings passed off as coronavirus deaths. 🙁
Pegasus
Have you run your interpretation by Mehreen Faruqi?
The reason I ask is that I held one end of a banner, with her holding the other end, on a picket line about 10 years ago. We knew each other, and talked comfortably about the issues. She knew I was a member of the Labor party, and I knew she was a member of the Greens, but that did not have her refusing to hold the other end of the banner.
Has something changed with Mehreen, or are you trying to stir up Labor / Greens wars, the greatest beneficiary of which is the conservative side of politics?
Bernie did 40 rallies for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign. He campaigned assiduously for her. But she was a weak centrist candidate who could not defeat the most unsuitable presidential nominee in American political history.
Kim Beazley, a weak centrist leader from Australia, who lost both of the national campaigns that he led, is advising Democratic voters to choose a centrist as their nominee. I hope they reject his naive advice.
ar
Ah. My bad.
What sort of period of self-quarantine should we be planning for?
1. None.
2. Two weeks.
3. One month.
4. Three months.
5. Longer than three months.
Douglas and Milko @ #491 Wednesday, February 26th, 2020 – 9:09 pm
You mean, like the Labor Right does here, day in, day out, until it becomes so tedious that you just want to slit your wrists at their stupid, self-destructive behaviour?
You mean like that?
Mexicanbeemer @ #444 Wednesday, February 26th, 2020 – 6:05 pm
Fake news. We young people find that the pro-money, profit-seeking, authoritarian attitudes are the weird ones. They’re selfish, make little sense, and have fucked up the climate.
It may come as a surprise to some of the extreme lefties but Sanders is actually a human being and is therefore imperfect*.
1. Sanders kept going against Clinton after he should have stopped.
2. Sanders’ supporters in very large numbers (15%) stayed at home, went all grumpy and helped get Trump in. Idiots. If the Warren, Buttigieg, Bloomberg etc, etc, etc, supporters do the same then they will do to Sanders what Sanders supporters did to Clinton.
*What else would dote on the Soviet Union and barrack for Xi, Castro, and the Ayatollah du jour while living in three houses at once?
ar
I’m always happy to take any money that ‘sane’ young people either don’t want or can’t manage*. I’m happy to take it as a direct gift or as profits.
I am also perfectly happy not to work hard for either if that would make the young people happier still.
Further, I am perfectly happy to chainsaw down all the trees I have planted so that the young people who reckon that profits have fucked up the planet are right.
*Usually not much, of course.
Mehreen Faruqi
‘I’m in politics because I want to shake up the status quo’: The Greens’ Mehreen Faruqi heads to Canberra
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/i-m-in-politics-because-i-want-to-shake-up-the-status-quo-the-greens-mehreen-faruqi-heads-to-canberra-20180817-p4zy3r.html
“In Fraser Anning’s Australia, Faruqi would never have come here from Pakistan in 1992. She never would have managed major engineering projects across the state, never would have raised a family in Sydney’s inner-south, never would have entered the NSW upper house and certainly never would have joined Anning in the federal Senate, as she will on Monday.
Anning’s incindiary speech was “the worst of Australia”, Faruqi says. As a Muslim woman – the first to sit in the Senate – she gets to see the country’s darker side more than most, whether it be “toxic racism and sexism” on social media or the constant struggle to prove herself as a loyal Australian.
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Faruqi says the strong reaction to Anning’s speech this week was “good to see”, but condemns what she calls dog-whistling from both major parties on migrants, African crime and asylum seekers. She isn’t yet convinced by Malcolm Turnbull’s oft-repeated declaration Australia is the most successful multicultural nation in the world.”
The cartoonists are getting brutal with the Morrison government, here Pope questions Spud’s ability to read a chart…