The Guardian reports Essential Research’s latest weekly reading of concern about coronavirus finds satisfaction with the government’s handling of the crisis up two points to 65%, its best result yet out of the five such polls that have been published (no sign yet of the poor rating, which hit a new low of 17% – the full report later today should reveal all).
Last week’s question on state governments’ responses was repeated this week, and with due regard to sample sizes that run no higher than around 320 (and not even in triple figures in the case of South Australia), the good ratings have been 56% last week and 61% for New South Wales; 76% and 70% for Victoria; 52% and 63% for Queensland; 79% and 77% for Western Australia; and 72% and 66% for South Australia. Combining the results gives New South Wales 58.5% and Victoria 73% with error margins of about 3.7%; Queensland 57.5% from 4.6%; Western Australia 78% from 5.5%; and South Australia 69% from 6.9%.
Also included are Essential’s occasion question on trust in various institutions, which suggests that all of the above might be benefiting from a secular effect that has federal parliament up from 35% to 53% and the ABC up from 51% to 58%. The effect is more modest for the Australian Federal Police, up two points to 68%. In other coronavirus-related findings, the poll finds “half of all voters think it’s too soon to even consider easing restrictions“, with a further 14% saying they are prepared to wait until the end of May; that 38% said they would download the virus-tracing app, with 63% saying they had security concerns and 35% being confident the data would not be misused.
UPDATE: Full report here.
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sprocket
So it’s a basically anti-Chinese slur?
“sprocket_says:
Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:26 pm
Lizzie and ar
The RT news site is run by Russian State Propaganda – RT stands for Russia Today”
I’d normally say that, but the article does link to the original pre-print, and it seems to be a fairly straight up report.
On the mutation thing, I did come across something the other day which basically said that mutations are to be expected, what matters is not the number but how the actually effect the virus, particularly the binding sites, in terms of a vaccine.
Also, from the abstract “Importantly, these viral isolates show significant variation in cytopathic effects and viral load, up to 270-fold differences, when infecting Vero-E6 cells.”
This isn’t the same as saying some strains are 270 times more deadly.
Article is here https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20060160v1
Blobbit @ #943 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 5:17 pm
Not necessarily and seems a straw man argument, look over there.. but for Smoko and Dotard leading the charge of a new global medical cops, rushing into anywhere and everywhere they want at the whiff of an epidemic, yes doesn’t seem possible at all.
For the environment. There’s plenty of people in countries all around the world that are working for that within their own countries to do more and better, and working or supporting others across borders.
The reality is without significant changes these and many other disasters will befall human societies more and more.
Sprocket @5:26
The UK media regulator, Ofcom, has repeatedly found RT to have breached its rules on impartiality and on one occasion found it had broadcast “materially misleading” content.
Too bad Ofcom can’t go after the Daily Telecrap and The Australian.
It does link to the pre-print but it reads like spin.
All the reputable sources I’ve read so far say yes the virus does mutate, but generally the mutations don’t affect protein coding and so far we have no idea whether any mutations affect whether it is more deadly, infectious or whatever.
One of these polls is an outlier…
I thought Laming’s performance was disgusting.
Anyone who has tried to convert plain text into material suitable for a web, especially an interactive one, would know what an effort the teachers have made in the “holidays”.
That Morrison talked to Trump today – who gives a stuff?
While a lot of crap is being thrown at Turnbull, at least he had the balls to stand up to Trump, while all Morrison has sounded like he has done is lick Trump’s nether regions…
For those who think Morrison is somehow doing a “good job” and has somehow learned what leadership is about, this suck-up to Trump only confirms what half the nation feels about him – he is untrustworthy, duplicitous and nothing more that a tailor’s dummy when it comes to ability.
Mind you, 30-40% of the electorate still think he is a Miracle Man……………………more fool them.
“Quollsays:
Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:31 pm
…but for Smoko and Dotard leading the charge of a new global medical cops”
God, I get tired of the “cute” names. First, not sure that Morrison and Trump (I presume that’s who Dotard is) are on the same page with this one. Second, as with inspections for WMDs there is some precedence. Imperfect as that is, it shows that there can be some international agreement.
As for the environmental bit – I wasn’t saying environmental action isn’t needed. All I was saying is that if you think that given the current situation the world couldn’t agree on something like this, then I despair that there is any chance we can do anything on global warming.
Anyway, I get the feeling this is just going to be a discussion to try to club Morrison and Trump. Go for it, but I’ll pass. Doesn’t seem to achieve much.
Lizzie
Who knows what the Russian disinformation peddlers think? Their aim is to diminish the West, through sowing discord, or influencing thought, or every so often publish accurate reporting. You can never tell what is true, what is a campaign, what has a hidden agenda.
Russian propaganda and Rupert Murdoch media have a lot in common
“Cud Chewersays:
Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:32 pm
It does link to the pre-print but it reads like spin.
All the reputable sources I’ve read so far say yes the virus does mutate, but generally the mutations don’t affect protein coding and so far we have no idea whether any mutations affect whether it is more deadly, infectious or whatever.”
Well yes, which is what the preprint is trying to address. Not my area, but the preprint certainly reads like a serious study, and the comments on the preprint aren’t flagging any immediate flaws.
Fulvio Sammut @ #940 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 5:16 pm
Don’t accelerate out of corners
PuffyTMD
The Liar Tweets Tonight
I think the lyrics are great and the musical performance is more than good.
However, the visuals of the creators—most of whom look like they got to the Summer of 69 and stayed there—are exactly what Mr. Trump’s supporters and (more importantly) independents STILL considering voting for Mr. Trump think of their opposition. As such, if this were a political ad (as opposed to an amusing video) it runs the risk it will simply reinforce why people support Mr. Trump (to “own the libs”).
In my view, instead of making the visuals about themselves, they should make it about Mr. Trump and his lifetime of psychopathic behaviour, which has been well documented in video. Show how he behaved in Studio 54, show him mocking the disabled, and so on; and show the death count, and the mass graves. This won’t affect his hard core supporters (they either aspire to such behaviour themselves or are so corrupt beyond redemption that they remain in the entity calling itself the Republican Party), but it may affect the independents.
I still find this graph quite impressive…
https://citymapper.com/cmi/sydney
lizzie
Slur on China ? Hardly. This from Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post.
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Coronavirus’s ability to mutate has been vastly underestimated, and mutations affect deadliness of strains, Chinese study finds
The most aggressive strains of Sars-CoV-2 could generate 270 times as much viral load as the least potent type
New York may have a deadlier strain imported from Europe, compared to less deadly viruses elsewhere in the United States
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080771/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study
poroti
I can retire tonight confident that I have provided enough material for several arguments during the night patrol. 🙂
Are you admitting to tossing matches again lizzie? 🙂
Btw.. Australia is now up to 75% recovered.
Cud Chewer
Of course. 🙂
Good news on the WA 0 cases today – it was based on a relatively high (for WA) number of tests. I was a little worried that it was going to be based on a small number. It was from 1028 tests, which is the second highest number for WA.
lizzie
It will be all over by midnight 🙂
The trend for WA was pretty clear..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704
sprocket_ says:
Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:38 pm
Lizzie
Who knows what the Russian disinformation peddlers think? Their aim is to diminish the West, through sowing discord, or influencing thought, or every so often publish accurate reporting. You can never tell what is true, what is a campaign, what has a hidden agenda.
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Another Russian aim is to have people vastly over-estimating Russian reach and power. They are sowing paranoia and encouraging shadow jumpers, of which you are a notable representative on this site.
“Cud Chewersays:
Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:57 pm
The trend for WA was pretty clear..”
Not sure if that was meant for me….but yes, it has been. Still nice to see it’s off the back of a good number of tests.
Quoll says:
Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:12 pm
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The continual industrial scale degradation of the world’s natural environment and the carbon emissions causing climate change is driving the growth and risk of pandemics and zoonotic diseases, among many other problems.’
Neither habitat degradation nor climate change had anything at all to do with Covid.
Zip.De nada. Nothing.
IMO, trying to mobilize moral panic for party political reasons is unethical – and particularly so during a pandemic.
The early evidence suggests that NOx air pollution, mostly from cars and coal fired power generation, has been a significant factor in covid19 mortality, and I would guess disease morbidity, in Europe.
Without actual analysis you would imagine that NY and many other US cities would be comparably drowning in petrochemical smog, if not worse.
I get many might be looking for anything but an environmental factor in the situation, to help or hinder their own concerns about how they would fare with getting this ticket in the lottery of life. For industries like coal and fossil fuels there’s obviously another problem they don’t want to see or hear about. There are no doubt other factors like age and extant conditions. Though a life time of exposure to air pollution is itself a well reported risk factor for developing many of these conditions that raise the risks.
Time will tell what the biggest mortality risk factors are but the early evidence seems compelling.
from (link originally posted by sprocket)
Assessing nitrogen dioxide (NO2) levels as a contributing factor to coronavirus (COVID-19) fatality
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969720321215
Relationship between covid deaths and air pollution, NO2, from >4400 fatal cases in France, Germany, Span and Italy
With 78% of all fatalities from just 5 of the most polluted local government regions, out of 66 regions in total where all these deaths occurred.
I have seen Tim Pallas and Daniel Andrews get around alot lately without ties. I know there is a pandemic but that’s no need to slack off. Sharpen up lads.
https://theconversation.com/these-5-images-show-how-air-pollution-changed-over-australias-major-cities-before-and-after-lockdown-136723
Covid was created by direct human interactions with wildlife.
These human/wildlife interactions have nothing at all to do with habitat destruction or climate change. In the case of covid the pathway for the creation of the pandemic is clear. It involved the live capture, live trading and eating of wildlife. Habitat destruction and climate change did NOT create Covid.
Therefore, to suggest that ‘habitat destruction’ and ‘climate change’ increased the risk of the covid pandemic occurring is to blatantly falsify history. To do so in order to create moral panic for party political purposes is unethical.
To keep doing so after being alerted to the falsification of history is very devious indeed.
Quoll @ #967 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 4:02 pm
So how was China able to get it under control.
Their pollution levels are much worse.
A colleague who recently arrived from China remarked, “So, the sky is blue!”
Still waiting for the explosion in cases in WA due to all the asymptomatic young people.
When?
Boerwar @ #980 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 6:11 pm
Do some research before you start spouting such bollocks.
Puff
I LOVED that political ad! Thanks.
BK
go to his youtube channel and find the one on Mich McConnell to Old Man River.
Ebola was almost certainly first transmitted from wildlife to humans by way of ‘bush meat’.
H1N1 and a suite of other flues were probably transmitted from domestic animals to humans.
The notion that habitat destruction and climate change are the major factors giving rise to new human diseases is just not tenable given the evidence.
If there is a single set of target for preventing these illnesses from (a) occurring and (b) spreading then: minimizing human/domestic animal interactions and reducing human/wildlife (food) interactions, reducing the total human population, reducing human population density, reducing the amount of human travel and reducing the speed of human travel are the blindingly obvious first targets.
Boerwar @ #986 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 6:19 pm
Oh, for goodness sake …
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/18/tip-of-the-iceberg-is-our-destruction-of-nature-responsible-for-covid-19-aoe
Puff
I have now subscribed to his channel.
I know what Angus should do, he should apply the fiscal time travel that the LNP is famous for and use it to transport fuel stored (maybe, unless The Donald says that we should pay more for the great US fuel) overseas. Bloody cretin!
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/energy-minister-announces-94m-fuel-deal-but-reserve-wont-be-held-in-australia/news-story/e950b907da8e62ccfbcb76af21a8b05a
Evidence free opinions from PB’s own Lord Monckton of zoonotic disease are never ending.
Still waiting for the link to their own lit review published in a peer reviewed journal, just the simplest way to put everyone out of their misery.
Numbers for corona virus in Australia all look pretty good and things trending in the right direction. But, a bit in the media now about second wave of infections, where countries that dont have the encouraging numbers Australia and NZ have might be going?? Places like Africa, Indonesia, with poor health systems.
And places like Singapore that have good health systems but pockets of underclass “Guest workers” in not so flash conditions with limited access to health support. Then, refugee camps in Lebanon and Greece and elsewhere in Europe?? Here, and in the UK the equivalent would be Jails and Aged Care (or immigration detention) that are going to have to be intensely monitored for months i reckon.
Those pockets though, would i think be the starting points for new rounds of infections??
RT is okay for commentary. I sometimes watch George Galloway’s vlog. Always valuable to get an alternate point of view. I most definitely has a left slant, hence why it is panned by the MSM.
I’m sure Morrison would have got lots of sage advice from Trump in today’s “perfect” phone call.
Something happy and uplifting! 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw3eP2JPFIY
Private schools are demanding more taxpayers’ money to stay open, while threatening staff reductions as a negotiating tactic.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/private-schools-seek-taxpayer-bailout-to-stave-off-job-cuts-20200419-p54l9f.html
I see no reason why the world shouldn’t now sit back and hand over all leadership and decision making to Gregory Sheridan, as I observe him on the drum.
What a deity! Who’d have known?
Sheridan should be elevated to Emperor in perpetuity, the leader of the post Corona era, delivering Australia to a level of prosperity simply unknown.
Talk about an old man journalist, always hanging around the players, saying the right things, keeping himself in the shout, still desperately seeking relevance.
There are plenty of the type. Is it a pandemic?
Bu
“Still waiting for the explosion in cases in WA due to all the asymptomatic young people.”
You only need one asymptomatic carrier (irrespective of age) to a be a super-spreader, and all the good work thus far will be undone. Hold your horsemen.
“Still waiting for the explosion in cases in WA due to all the asymptomatic young people.”
Did your Science teacher fail you, or just kick you out?
For those at a loose end.
Greensborough Growler @ #999 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 6:49 pm