The formerly erratic Roy Morgan appears now to be in the regular habit of releasing fortnightly federal polling results, the latest of which encompasses a sample of 2747 respondents surveyed over the previous two weekends. This records little change on a strong result for Labor last time, with their two-party lead out slightly from 53.5-46.5 to 54-46. Changes on the primary vote are negligible, with both major parties up half a point to 37.5%, the Greens stead on 12.5% and One Nation up half to 3.5%.
State two-party breakdowns are provided as usual: these show Labor leading 52-48 in New South Wales (a swing of about 4%), 60-40 in Victoria (about 7%), 54.5-45.5 in both Western Australia (a swing of about 10%) and South Australia (a swing of about 4%) and 57-43 in Tasmania (about 1%), while the Coalition leads 52-48 in Queensland (a swing to Labor of about 6.5%).
Looking forward to Christmas in the ghetto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9CqA6RT114
Captain Morrison spoke to Biggles of Britain. The Afghanistan War is now all about irregular and illegal movement of people through borders.
guytaur @ #246 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 11:59 am
All tip, no iceberg.
All announcement, no follow through.
Gladys jumped before National Cabinet pushed her.
Dan Andrews no longer being tactful about Sydney. “We don’t want to be like them.”
hazza4257 @ #229 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 11:45 am
I wouldn’t say they are the same … but I would say they are both pretty close to being equally useless as policies for addressing climate change. And if you actually read Labor’s national platform, it comes surprisingly close to calling for a “gas led recovery” …
ScottyFromMarketing has to apply a hokey tag to every utterance…
‘Morrison said Australia is achieving vaccination rates of 300,000 per day, or “three times the MCG in one day”.
Player One says:
Friday, August 20, 2021 at 11:30 am
Very wisely, Labor are not going to elaborate on their intentions simply to gratify a Lib by any other name.
Lizzie @ #240 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 11:52 am
New South Wales people see that sort of thing as weakness.
Asha @ #244 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 11:56 am
Call of Duty is 2021.
Where are the vaccines in Victoria? NSW is still 2:1 Victoria or more through the Cth side eg GPs and pharmacies
guytaur says:
Friday, August 20, 2021 at 11:40 am
@ShoebridgeMLC tweets
“Curfews will be introduced from 9pm to 5am to help reduce the moment of young people” – It’s now official NSW Government policy to not vaccinate young people but to arrest them #nswpol
This is an idiotic claim. Absolutely idiotic. Shoebridge is on the same lily pad as the dolts who campaign against vaccination.
@CSWherrett tweets
it appears that Gladys is facing the consequences (hundreds of cases of workplace transmission) of her actions (not paying people to stay home)
Cat, or anyone with some knowledge of the ALP’s inner workings, please tell us what is happening to the NSW branch of party in preparation for the next state election. I live in the North Coast and have no idea who their leader at the moment is even. And I regard myself as an engaged voter.
Lizzie @ #207 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 11:33 am
Yeah. What NOT to do. 😐
Q: Chant begging for understanding.
Stages of loss/grief.
Denial and isolation, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance……….we are up to bargaining and entering depression I see. 🙁
We need more upperty journos like the one giving Gladbags a hard time today. A few young ones looking to make a rep….
sprocket at 12:14 pm
How many Sydney Harbors is that ?
N @ #261 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 12:21 pm
It’s political smartarsery is all.
Listening on the radio. Dan sounds very flustered today.
@timsout tweets
Just about every expert, and the NSW government itself, acknowledges that there’s no evidence curfews have any effect. Yet curfews are introduced for southwest and western Sydney. People there are right to feel they’ve been treated harshly and unfairly. This is sadistic
…and my Airbnb September reservation cancellations start rolling in…..thanks Gladys!…any free money for people in my situation? Nup.
Maybe Scotty will let me raid my super again?
What? @timsout takes anything said by NSW Gov as evidence?
Pretty sure we are at the Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t point
pritu @ #263 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 12:26 pm
Hi pritu,
NSW Labor is supposedly having a State Conference at the Sydney Town Hall in October, which looks likely to now be via Zoom. New policies will be codified then. The new leader is Chris Minns, who represents the Kogarah area of Sydney. He’s presently touching base with all the party members via a series of Zoom meetings. He’s also monitoring the Berejiklian government’s performance and trying not to let anything slip under the radar as far as they are concerned. Though it’s hard to hold them to account when Berejiklian has suspended parliament.
Might I suggest you contact Janelle Saffin? She is the local Labor MP for the Northern Rivers area around Lismore. She might be able to keep you updated on things. 🙂
Listening on the radio. Dan sounds very flustered today. Taylormade, you are so full of it. No, he was his normal measured self. Your Gold Standard on the other hand… Gee the force is strong in this one. What a dunderhead.
Tayormade
Dan isn’t ‘flustered’. He’s angry.
shellbell @ #171 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 11:20 am
One of Hewson’s most stressed policies was removing fuel excise, which would have lowered the price of petrol from about 68 cents per litre to 40 c.
Would have done wonders for emissions.
guytaurs at 12:35 pm
Utter bullshit. Less person to person interaction = Less transmission. End of story.
Dan isn’t ‘flustered’. He’s angry.
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Not to mention determined.
I missed Gladys and SfM today but the latter is being repeated on ABC. Vaccine numbers numbers numbers and totally meaningless. By next week every Australian will have been vaccinated five times over.
Thanks Cat.
“Fortnite is so 2018.”
Lol, not for my 12 yr old. Lockdown means fortnite for him and his friends.
@timsout doesn’t like the kitchen sink approach to reducing mobility? Not keen on the precautionary principal? OK then, let us be evidence-based. The thing about evidenced based practice is someone needs to generate the evidence.
The UK, US, Malta and Iceland are generating evidence on what happens at high vaccination rates.
Let Sydney help generate evidence on curfews to limit mobility.
Dr Chant asks ppl not to go for testing unless they have symptoms as the testers are getting overwhelmed. In Vic, Dan emphasises going for testing if you have symptoms.
Obviously comparisons between states are useless.
Between Andrews and Barr, it should be a lively national cabinet meeting today. Barr is hot on vax programs for children, vaccine supply and seeking unambiguous clarification of the 70 and 80% Doherty numbers.
“It’s now up to every single Victorian to make the best possible choices to follow these rules so that we don’t get overrun with cases, so that we aren’t locked in till potentially the end of the year”
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That includes State Labor MP’s fleeing the city for regional areas.
@JereemyPoxon tweets
Instead of “imposing a curfew” how about “imposing” $600 a week in everyone’s bank account #PayPeopleToStayHome
Taylormade
You’ve had the explanation. Don’t be so catty.
Taylormade
BTW, have you worked out how to get from Warrnambool to Gippsland? It’s rather a long trek though the Highlands!
‘The most effective NPIs include curfews, lockdowns and closing and restricting places where people gather in smaller or large numbers for an extended period of time. ‘
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-01009-0
‘ a night time curfew had moderate, but statistically significant effects..’
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.25.21254330v1.full.pdf
lizzie @ Friday, August 20, 2021 at 12:45 pm
There is finally tacit admission that pathology testing is overwhelmed. This is evidenced by:
1. the dropping of the 3 day testing requirements in a couple of the LGA hotspots
2. the introduction of the rapid antigen testing option as an alternative to proof of vaccination.
Pathology testing now joins contact tracing as being overrun. These two interventions were the two central planks of the “proportionate” NSW approach to COVID. Finally we are looking South for ideas.
Dandy Murray @ #241 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 11:23 am
Wasnt that a chook raffle?
Shellbell @ #260 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 12:21 pm
NSW got the extra 500,000 remember.
Kohler not holding back
ItzaDream
Yes but the ratio has been there for some time now. It is changing a bit at the moment but for a long time Victoria has been stronger with the state vaccines and NSW stronger with the Cth component and I am curious why.
The Doherty Institute should’ve taken note of BWs
everything.they.touch
BK @ #278 Friday, August 20th, 2021 – 12:40 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk-JzU8c60w
CC
I’m reading it that the viral load in a vaccinated person with Covid is much the same as the viral load of an unvaccinated person with Covid. We don’t know exactly what protection the vaccines provide from getting Covid in the first place though.