There are posts above on state politics in New South Wales and below on the slow motion demise of Boris Johnson. This one covers local electoral news relevant to (mostly) the federal tier:
• In an article for The Monthly by George Megalogenis, Shaun Ratcliff of the University of Sydney relates research suggesting home owners were nearly twice as likely to vote Coalition than non-home owners after controlling for income. However, there was a marked exception for those under 35, who were twice as likely to vote Labor and Greens than the Coalition, which played a major role in the latter’s disastrous showing in the big cities. The Coalition had just 16% support among renters, compared with 38% for Labor and 35% for the Greens. Home owners were only half as likely to vote for the Greens as renters, while distinctions among Labor were more modest. This was based on the Australian Cooperative Election Survey, conducted during the campaign from a sample of around 5800 by YouGov and various universities, which we will be hearing a lot more from in future.
• The Guardian reports Senator Andrew Bragg is pushing for changes to the New South Wales Liberal Party’s rules at its annual general meeting later this month to allow preselections to proceed without the involvement of the leader’s representative in the nomination review process. This seemingly arcane point lay at the centre of the long-running logjam in its preselection process before the federal election, when Scott Morrison’s centre right faction ally Alex Hawke persistently failed to show at meetings to move the process forward. Factional rivals said this was a deliberate effort to force the national executive to intervene to protect centre right incumbents from preselection defeats. Bragg’s proposal has been criticised by Hollie Hughes, Liberal Senator and centre right member, who instead blames reforms championed by Tony Abbott that required the concurrence of 90% of state executive members to certify factional deals that would have broken the deadlock.
• Matthew Knott of the Sydney Morning Herald reports members of Labor’s Cabramatta branch have reacted to Kristina Keneally’s parachute malfunction in Fowler by calling for those who “white-anted” her to be disciplined. This included passage of a motion calling on the party administration to consider expelling Tu Le, whose own aspirations for the seat were thwarted by the Keneally manoeuvre. Local sources cited by Knott said members were “peeved by the presumption Le would have won a rank-and-file ballot given she had only moved to the electorate a year earlier herself and was not well-known in the area”.
• Poll Bludger regular Adrian Beaumont has a piece in The Conversation on the performance of the polls at the federal election, which I mean to get around covering myself in depth eventually.
• Matt Martino of the ABC drew upon my supposed expertise in a fact check on claims made by Barnaby Joyce about the federal election result. I rated him no pinocchios, but told him to watch it anyway.
• Late counting has shown the Liberals’ performance in Saturday’s Bragg state by-election in South Australia to have been a bit less bad than it appeared on the night. There has actually been a 2.8% swing in their favour on postals and pre-polls, compared with a 6.0% swing on the election day votes that were all we had to go on on Saturday. This leaves the Liberal margin at 5.5%, down from 8.2% at the March election (and 16.8% at the election before).
” Can you point us to a source for your unwritten rules of civil society? Would Deuteronomy be a good place to start?”
I can’t link a source because they’re unwritten. But common courtesy as you go about your normal business, to family, friends, co-workers and strangers is among them. Abusing them verbally or otherwise is not. Staying civil when dealing with the stuff you have to deal with. If problems arise, you deal with them, calmly and sensibly, you don’t lash out.
Jackol @ #587 Saturday, July 9th, 2022 – 5:09 pm
Sad. As bad as Kyrgios’s behavior is, at least he’s not a conspicuous anti-vaxxer.
Djokovic may be all warm and cuddly (except when he isn’t…not like he hasn’t lost his temper on occasion too), but his brand of stupidity is going to get people sick. And in some cases, dead.
Priorities.
“If you were to pick the Australian who had the most influence upon this world, well, I’m afraid it would be the Dark Lord himself, Rupert Murdoch.”
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There is definitely no brag here but years ago I spent a whole day in a small room with him and a previous wife. Also I have had a cup of tea with Dame Elisabeth (his mother dec) at Cruden Farm. Sir Keith gave her the mansion as a wedding present.
I note the rugby league player sent to the judiciary for calling the referee a cheat is facing a 3-4 week suspension. That’s the sort of punishment that’s appropriate for such behaviour and hopefully a suitable deterrent.
Steve777 says:
Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 5:59 pm
” Can you point us to a source for your unwritten rules of civil society? Would Deuteronomy be a good place to start?”
“I can’t link a source because they’re unwritten. But common courtesy as you go about your normal business, to family, friends, co-workers and strangers is among them. Abusing them verbally or otherwise is not. Staying civil when dealing with the stuff you have to deal with. If problems arise, you deal with them, calmly and sensibly, you don’t lash out.”
Agreed, and in any case these conventions are codified in industry and workplace laws and laws surrounding harassment and vilification. Common, basic decency and respect shouldn’t require defining.
Re Barney @5:41
” Some sports have low tolerance for certain behaviours and come down hard on transgressions, others have a much weaker approach.
That tennis seems to tolerate more than most other professional sports.”
A player in any code of football would be sent off and earn a hefty suspension for abusing a referee or linesman. Meanwhile in tennis, many elite players think that they are bigger than the game and the sporting bodies seem to agree. I believe the abuse is a stratagem to put off and influence the umpire to gain an advantage, just as the grunting is a stratagem to put off an opponent. Both are cheating.
If it’s not a stratagem, then the players who do it aren’t functioning as mature adults.
a r @ #376 Saturday, July 9th, 2022 – 6:00 pm
+1
Is Djokovic a better person than Kyrgios because, two days later, he said sorry for rapping an umpire on the foot, while shouting at him?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-03/novak-djokovic-not-proud-of-touching-umpire-in-australian-open/11922792
Novak Djokovic had contact with the umpire during his win in the Australian Open final on Sunday night.
He initially defended himself for twice tapping Damien Dumusois on the foot while remonstrating with the French official during his drama-charged five-set win over Dominic Thiem, but was more circumspect on Monday.
“In a professional sport, things happen that obviously you’re not proud of,” he said.
“Sometimes you do things that you’re not happy with and you go through different emotions, you go through ups and downs.”
I have a feeling he has some sympathy for Kyrgios, but his opinion is suspect, of course. (S)
PaulTu @ #364 Saturday, July 9th, 2022 – 5:30 pm
Thanks for that!
I would have thought carelessly infecting other professional tennis players with COVID-19 after you organised a party for them to prove how invincible they all were to the depredations of COVID-19 would come pretty close to the worst behaviour of any professional tennis player recently.
C@tmomma @ #338 Saturday, July 9th, 2022 – 6:20 pm
IIRC Kyrgios was one that spoke out strongly about that piece of idiocy
Asha, Kyrgios has sought professional help re. his on-court behaviour. It obviously didn’t work. And as for McEnroe, Cash & others giving him a serve, well, you’d know the phrase. And while not claiming any intimate knowledge of what motivates him, that he is born of Greek/Malaysian parents is perhaps a clue ?
I recall that he & Hewitt had a clash when the latter was Australia’s Davis Cup captain, which was quite ugly. Anyway, despite his flaws,
getting behind him in tomorrow’s final may prove to be the release valve he, I think, sorely needs.
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Cronus:
With regard to your view of Kyrgios, do bear in mind that although he wouldn’t pass muster in the ADF, he doesn’t have to. I do trust you’re not turning into a fogey(?).
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Re. the assassination of Abe, while his death was shocking & could not be countenanced on any level, as late as October 2020, he paid homage at the Yasukuni Shrine. Was he having an each-way bet?
laughtong @ #385 Saturday, July 9th, 2022 – 6:24 pm
You remembered that bit. 🙂
Mavis
“ Cronus:
With regard to your view of Kyrgios, do bear in mind that although he wouldn’t pass muster in the ADF, he doesn’t have to. I do trust you’re not turning into a fogey(?).”
(chuckles) I think I achieved ol fuddy duddy status some time back, even as a young man, I was a product of my upbringing I suspect. I’d be content with just common decency from him, nothing extravagant, just for him to treat others the way he’d expect others to treat his loved ones.
All the nationalists coming out to support Kyrgios hoping some of the win will rub off on them.
nath @ #389 Saturday, July 9th, 2022 – 6:51 pm
How would you know? It looks to me like you just want to say something nasty.
Now Cornwall/Kernow is revolting! 🙂
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Mmm which thugish, bad tempered tennis multi-millionaire to support???….the agony of choice…..maybe I will just find a good documentary on Curiosity Stream and read the headlines in tomorrows Sunday Rupert,if I can be bothered even doing that
Electric vehicles. The disciples may not like it but Tesla will be a bit player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO2d9FpBzDI&ab_channel=CNBC
Sports people owe no-one anything. I hate this deification that some people expect sports people to adhere to. They have to think about what people think of them? pffft. I can see captains of teams having responsibility for a team, and even responsibility to your team mates if you’re in a team. But if your job is to smack a ball with all of your might, and you’re good at it, onya lass/lad. If people don’t like your personality, fuckem.
I hope Kyrgios wins. I remember this same pile-on bs with Hewitt. Number 40 in the world in the Wimbledon final. Legend. If he wins it will be epic. Love seeing good ball smackers smack balls.
nath, wrong for two reasons:
“ If you were to pick the Australian who had the most influence upon this world, well, I’m afraid it would be the Dark Lord himself, Rupert Murdoch.”
1. Murdoch is not an Australian. He is an alien; and in my view, an enemy.
2. Lord Florey is the most influential Australian of all time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Florey
@Mavis:
“ I recall that he & Hewitt had a clash when the latter was Australia’s Davis Cup captain, which was quite ugly.”
And yet, Kyrgios speaks often to Hewitt and speaks of him in glowing terms. So, there is that.
I want Kyrgios to win, because I hope it will cause all those ‘true blue’ Aussies who get triggered whenever someone of colour fails the ‘grateful immigrant/indigenous person’ test to simply infarct. Maybe St George Hosiptal in southern, whitebread, Sydney will be overrun by cardiac patients from the Shire on Monday morning. Inshallah.
Correct….., sportsmen earning millions dont have to take my opinions on board whatsoever, but if I and thousands/millions of Aussies are luke-warm at your triumph then you cant complain if your career is littered with embarrassing, thugish, ignorant behaviour. If he loses or if he wins I shall not give him two consecutive thoughts
They been saying that for about a decade, still waiting for one of the big car companies to pull their finger out! The old car companies have been too use to pushing out the same old fossil cars with very little innovation.
But Tesla can’t do the EV transition alone anyway, it was the spark that started the transition, but we need several players.
Cronus:
Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:51 pm
Mavis
“ Cronus:
[‘(chuckles) I think I achieved ol fuddy duddy status some time back, even as a young man, I was a product of my upbringing I suspect. I’d be content with just common decency from him, nothing extravagant, just for him to treat others the way he’d expect others to treat his loved ones.’]
I suspect you expect too much. Gone are the days when one’s worth is predicated on one’s wisdom, age. I attended a function recently where I was placed at the end of the long table, along with other aged relatives, where it was assumed we would bore each other with our maladies, minded of an obscure Greek:
[“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”]
Cip0llone did not contradict Hutchinson’s testimony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asNav6MlgQg&ab_channel=DemirB%C4%B1y%C4%B1k
Dr John says:
Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:33 pm
Andrew_Earlwood says:
Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:20 pm
2. Lord Florey is the most influential Australian of all time:
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Great selection
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No Australian in history has been responsible for SAVING more human lives than Howard Florey. The fact that so few Australians know about him is appalling. Even worse when you consider that he does not feature in the Coalition history culture wars.
Andrew_Earlwood:
Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:28 pm
[‘I want Kyrgios to win, because I hope it will cause all those ‘true blue’ Aussies who get triggered whenever someone of colour fails the ‘grateful immigrant/indigenous person’ test to simply infarct. Maybe St George Hosiptal in southern, whitebread, Sydney will be overrun by cardiac patients from the Shire on Monday morning. Inshallah.’]
We’re on all four. If Nick’s serve’s working, the Joker’s in deep shit & he knows it, having lost to him in straight sets twice. Pepys.
Re MelbourneMammoth at 3.50 pm
The denialist formula used by Abe as PM in 2015, to regret but not apologise for Japanese atrocities, was a step backwards from apologies given by earlier PMs in 1995 and 2005, and exactly the same as that used in 1957 by Japanese PM (and war criminal) Mr Kishi when he visited Canberra. For Abe see:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/14/shinzo-abe-regrets-but-declines-to-apologize-for-japans-wwii-actions/
For an article by a senior Taiwanese literary scholar on remembering the Nanking Massacre see:
https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1080/14649373.2017.1273993
Andrew_Earlwood says:
Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:20 pm
nath, wrong for two reasons:
“ If you were to pick the Australian who had the most influence upon this world, well, I’m afraid it would be the Dark Lord himself, Rupert Murdoch.”
1. Murdoch is not an Australian. He is an alien; and in my view, an enemy.
2. Lord Florey is the most influential Australian of all time:
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You are not counting Murdoch as an Australian but LORD Florey, a British peer is one?
I’d argue that we have to claim Murdoch, it is our cross to bear and he can’t be Duttonised unfortunately.
poroti said:
Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 11:01 am
in response to: C@tmomma at 10:43 am
It takes a special sort of evil to jail your critics, then turn out the jails to provide cannon fodder for your illegal invasion of another country, as Putin is doing.
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Strangely enough that is exactly what Zelensky did months ago.Is someone projecting or have reports been mixed up ?
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poroti, Zelensky didn’t invade another country (unlike Putin) so your comparison is odious, misleading, and ridiculous. Congratulations, a trifecta of wrongness!
nath
Florey was born in Adelaide.
At this stage you and AE are love all
Dr John says:
Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:05 pm
nath
Florey was born in Adelaide.
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Well that proves it. The Greatest Australian couldn’t possibly have come from Adelaide.
Musk lover, take note. 🙂
Twitter has become Musk hater. They will sue Musk for pulling out of the deal
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/musk-terminates-44-billion-twitter-buyout-company-to-sue-him-story-so-far-1973613-2022-07-09
This may have been mentioned before – Labor is setting about reversing the LNP political interference in the ABC.
Sri Lanka economic crisis LIVE: Thousands on rampage inside Rajapaksa’s kitchen; Lanka PM calls emergency meet
Colombo | July 09, 2022 15:44 IST
Thousands of protesters in Sri Lanka’s commercial capital Colombo stormed the president’s official residence and his secretariat on Saturday amid months of mounting public anger over the country’s worst economic crisis in seven decades. Sri Lanka’s President Gotabaya Rajapaksa fled his official residence in Colombo on Saturday moments before thousands of protesters broke through police barricades and stormed the compound. Meanwhile, prime minister Ranil Wickremesinghe called an urgent meeting with his cabinet minister after the president fled his residence.
Anyone know when the new Government has its first sitting in Parliament ?
Currently Australian cricket team is playing Si Lankan cricket team in second test match.
Currently, Sri Lankan batsmen are scoring freely against Australian cricket bowlers.
Is the unrest outside the cricket ground affecting Australian bowlers?
Ven:
No we are not playing well and the Lankans are.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #89 Saturday, July 9th, 2022 – 7:28 pm
A_E.
I spent more than a decade working at St George Hospital. Whitebread it ain’t – though I agree about the Hobbits.
As far as Florey is concerned, I also agree. He was as much a product of the peculiarly fertile Adelaide educational environment* (which both my father & I shared 1 & 2 generations later) as Oxford – though he could not have done what he did in 1930’s Adelaide. Rarely mentioned were his sister & niece (Hilda & Joan Gardner)- both of whom were microbiologists of international renown.
* The Braggs, Florey, Frank Fenner, Robin Warren etc.
Is there airport near Galle to evacuate people via? Things in the capital appear to be a bit more serious than in Galle.
Nicko says:
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But Tesla can’t do the EV transition alone anyway, it was the spark that started the transition, but we need several players.
Exactly.
You spray it on everything we eat, what do you expect.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/09/weedkiller-glyphosate-cdc-study-urine-samples
”Anyone know when the new Government has its first sitting in Parliament ?”
July 26.
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B.S. Fairmansays:
Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:34 pm
Is there airport near Galle to evacuate people via? Things in the capital appear to be a bit more serious than in Galle.
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Sri Lankan President fled his official residence.
The nearest airport to Galle is Koggala (KCT) Airport which is 13.5 km away. Other nearby airports include Hatton (NUF) (100.8 km), Diyawanna Oya (DWO) (101.1 km) and Colombo (CMB) (130.4 km).
Dont know much about greenwold but he seems to be a rusia he seems to be half suportive on trump but his anti gokldmon sax stuff is strangethought trump was a member
E. G Whitlam of course.
Do not think sunack will get the job becaus he was sceen as to ambishous working behind sceens to bring him down but publickly pleging loilty sort of like morrison wonder if trus will one wallace would be the best option very low profile until ucraine but could push him self as the middle candadate was one of johnsons longist suporters working on both of his campaigns 2016 and 2019 atacking goave in 2016 fore ruining his first bid
clem attlee says:
Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:52 pm
E. G Whitlam of course.
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John Curtin goes OK
Ven @ #636 Saturday, July 9th, 2022 – 8:10 pm
The deal always allowed Musk to pull out. He just has to pay the $1 billion breakup fee. I hope the courts force him to.