Essential Research 2PP+: Labor 51, Coalition 44, undecided 5 (open thread)

Essential Research offers unsurprising numbers on voting intention and prime ministerial approval, and continues to find a clear majority in favour of an Indigenous voice to parliament.

Essential Research seems to have a new routine of discreetly slipping out federal voting intention numbers without trumpeting them in their weekly report. Labor is on 35% (up two), the Coalition 30% (down one), Greens 13% (steady), others 17% (steady) with 5% undecided (down one). The “2PP+” two-party measure has Labor steady on 51%, the Coalition up one to 44% and undecided down one to 5%. The weekly report has the monthly personal ratings for Anthony Albanese, which have him unchanged at 60% approval and 27%.

A forced response question on a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous voice to parliament runs 63-37 in favour, in from 65-35 in August. Respondents were presented with four questions querying their understanding of the issue, which found 25% holding the incorrect view that the proposed body would be able to block parliamentary legislation, with 26% believing otherwise and 50% not sure. Forty per cent expected 2023 would be a better year for Australia, compared with 24% for worse and 25% for no difference. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1042.

Roy Morgan’s weekly video informs us that their latest federal two-party numbers have Labor’s lead out from 54.5-45.5 to 56.5-43.5.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Boerwar

    I understand the tactic but that sounds like a bluff. Any walk through court will expose that the promises gas companies made about domestic gas prices when they got their export approvals. Those promises were not kept.

    There could be a lot of dirty laundry aired at any such court case.

    ACCC warned about domestic gas prices before the Ukraine War.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/australia-gas-santos-idUKL4N1LF6JK

    Santos was trying to head off gas e port limits (which it knew could be imposed) five years ago.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/australia-gas-santos-idUKL4N1LF6JK

    The gas industry got greedy and has been caught out.

  2. Moscow continues to threaten other countries with violence, if they dare to interfere while they bludgeon Ukraine’s civilian population with deadly and destructive missile and Iranian drone strikes. In this report in the Kyiv Post https://www.kyivpost.com/post/5792, Moscow shrieks that the US is being “provocative” in planning to deliver Patriot missile defence systems to Ukraine. Remember, Patriot systems are entirely defensive SAM’s. They are only applicable to the interception of inc0ming long-range missiles. They have no SSM functionality whatsoever. Thus, they cannot be used offensively at all. They pose absolutely no threat to Russian territory. The only outrage Russia feels at this development is that it represents a serious curb on their ability to strike their targets in Ukraine. And also remember, since October those targets have been almost entirely civilian.

    “Москва повинна бути зруйнована.”
    (“Moscow must be destroyed.”)

  3. I would be quite happy for BP to replace Shell in a heartbeat. BP has seen the writing on the wall and adjusted their business accordingly. They could do the same job as Shell, so no loss to the country in the end.

  4. You can guarantee that the gas companies are relishing the thought of pushing their brainwashing campaign through the holidays when people are away from their jobs and watching the cricket and the tennis. I bet the ad spots have already been booked. The Prime Minister and the Energy Minister have to be just as present during this time, correcting the misinformation and pushing their positive message.

  5. Trump used to make most of his money on franchising out his Trump brand name – Trump steaks, Trump University, Trump towers. He never owned the assets, just collected money for use of the brand.

    The Trump digital trading cards are on-brand, question is, who owns the underlying NFT platform?

  6. So .. $99 USD to buy a cartoon picture of Trump. That’s got to be the bargain of the century. What next?

    Seriously, I was trying to think of something more ludicrous and ridiculous than a Trump digital trading card and I can’t.

  7. Lawrence O’Donnell@Lawrence

    This image of Trump shows how much he hates himself. He hates the reality of who he is and how he actually looks.

    Laurence Tribe@tribelaw

    Exactly. Lawrence O’Donnell hits the fat nail squarely on the head. Self-loathing transmuted into boundless Narcissism . . . a lethal combination

  8. Thanks, Terminator. A thought-provoking read.

    (Citing a research paper on ‘blockies’ by Muhammad Makki and Kitty Van Vuuren: that authorship a testament to our multicultural Australia.)

  9. Blockies was the name given the fruit growers on the small holdings in the irrigated areas along the Murray.
    Vastly different people to the killers in Queensland.

  10. Zoe Daniel uses the C-word in parliament …

    https://michaelwest.com.au/coalition-sidelined-fossil-outrage-as-labor-strikes-deal-on-energy-relief-bill-with-greens/

    Zoe Daniel deploys “C word” in Parliament

    Zoe Daniel also called out the industry’s cartel behaviour in her speech telling parliament that Australian gas companies “operate in an anti-competitive way as an effective cartel in the way they control production and fix prices.”

    While some industry observers have identified the Australian gas industry as a cartel for many years, they are now joined by a growing chorus of voices demanding action.

    Last week gas finance analyst Bruce Robertson released a report from the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA) which showed that all gas fields in eastern Australia would remain profitable at $7 a gigajoule. The government’s $12 cap gives gas companies an additional 70% of pure profit above the already profitable $7 price.

    The indisputable fact is that east coast gas producers are very very profitable at $12 a gigajoule. In this context, Shell and Woodside threatening to restrict domestic supply because of the price cap is clearly cartel behaviour and a case of extortion against a democratically elected government. Cartel behaviour is illegal in Australia.

    Also, Labor torpedoes cross-bench move to stop new fossil fuel subsidies. Now, why would they do that?

    But wait, there’s more …

    The government also has questions to answer. The way that the ACCC came up with the $12 per gigajoule figure hasn’t been released publicly so the only price cap figure with transparent workings to date is the $7 figure published by IEEFA.

    “In the interest of transparency” yesterday Member for Kooyong Monique Ryan moved an amendment to the bill calling on the government to produce the ACCC report which the government has cited as the basis for establishing the $12 price cap.

    The amendment was voted down by the government however Treasurer Jim Chalmers assured the cross-bench that the government would provide the requested information from the ACCC to the public.

    The government has ended the year on a high note however the clear message from the Greens and cross-benchers is that there are strong calls for them to go far further. Australians want a windfall profits tax, they want an end to Australia’s gas cartel and they want to improve transparency around how their government makes decisions.

    Good luck with that. Australia, you have just been mugged again. And most of you don’t even seem to realize it.

  11. sprocket_ says:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 9:02 am

    Trump used to make most of his money on franchising out his Trump brand name – Trump steaks, Trump University, Trump towers. He never owned the assets, just collected money for use of the brand.
    _________
    Not really. Trump has significant Manhattan real estate holdings which are usually rented for considerable amounts. However, the franchising business was particularly lucrative because it required no investment from him, and therefore no borrowing, in order to get returns.

    You would really need to look at the books to determine what percentage the franchising business contributed to revenues in a given year.

  12. Terminator @ #1109 Friday, December 16th, 2022 – 8:08 am

    Never heard of Blockies before this trajedy:
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/qld/2022/12/15/queensland-blockies-police/

    Thanks for the link. This is the first I’ve heard of “blockies” too. Preppers. Cookers. And now Blockies. With hundreds of communities though and a common label, the temptation is going to exist to judge them collectively. Getting away from the pressures of city living is something I think everybody can relate to, and likely know people who are doing just that. It’s the harm you do not where you live that’s the problem. And distance shouldn’t erase shared responsibilities. Western Downs mayor Ray Brown probably struck a decent balance. “There is a small minority group who have chosen socially to live a certain way, and it concerns me greatly when children are involved.” Also, 3000 people isn’t a lot.

  13. NSW politics question.

    Where are the Greens targeting for the upcoming election? This seems like the first for a while (ok, WA I guess) where there’s little discussion of or possibility of a Green wave. Which is funny, because the competition the Greens face in NSW is pretty low quality compared to other States.

    Upper house, it looks pretty hard for the Greens to get off 2+2. Which I guess is a technically a gain considering they had 1 2015 LC member leave the party. Getting to 3/21 seems like a pretty hard ask.

    Lower house, they don’t really have any potential gains I can see. Lismore maybe, but they’d need some swing to come to them from both Labor and Nationals. There’s 4 Liberal seats where they are 2nd, but Manly is the most achievable of them, and that’s not a great claim.

    I guess maybe the best hope for the Greens is that they maintain the same number of seats (3 lower 4 upper) but get more influence out of it depending on how the houses end up?

  14. I love irony. The fact that Sitiveni Rabuka and Frank Bainimarama, two former coup leaders, are competing against each other in a supposedly free and fair democratic election tickles my fancy no end. Pot meet kettle.

  15. As one who has siblings and their families in the Pentecostal churches, I have become increasingly concerned about my niece’s extreme right wing conspiracy Facebook posts.
    I’m wondering if there’s a link between happy clappers and the ‘Cooker’ movement.

  16. Voice Endeavour,
    The Greens have got no chance of taking Lismore, former federal MP and now NSW State MP for Lismore, Janelle Saffin, is a local icon. Everyone loves her, even Greens’ voters. She has also helped massively after the floods up there to get what she can out of both federal and state government. She is a very effective Local Member.

  17. Quasar: “ I’m wondering if there’s a link between happy clappers and the ‘Cooker’ movement.”

    Well, ScoMo did tell the congregation at Margaret Court’s church: “we don’t trust governments”.

  18. Quasar,
    You have my heartfelt sympathies. There’s nothing worse than the frictionless facebook rabbit hole for warping minds. Believing in the Pentecostal form of religion and believing in conspiracy theories aren’t that far apart as far as Belief systems are concerned. And they both now that they need to keep being reinforced for people to keep believing them. So they go to church every week where the bells and whistles and razzamatazz are brought out to make the brainwashing go down easier and then they go home and spend the rest of the week on facebook having their unfounded conspiracy theories fed to them. As a concerned aunt you probably can’t have much influence but maybe the parents can. If the parents aren’t caught up in it all as well. 🙁

    Possibly a conversation over Xmas lunch? But most families seem to avoid those these days.

  19. I am a fair way through reading the just-released aged care star rating manual and have come across one of my pet peeves. Here is an extract that relates to the means of ascribing ratings to quality measures.

    The data for each quality indicator is divided into 5 equal groups referred to as
    ‘quintiles’. Each quintile represents approximately 20 per cent of all residential aged
    care services.
    Quintile 1 consists of 20 per cent of services with the lowest reported percentage of
    care recipients for the respective quality indicator and therefore the best performing.
    Conversely, quintile 5 consists of approximately 20 per cent of services with the
    highest reported percentage of residents for the respective quality indicator and
    therefore the worst performing.

    The stars are given based upon which quartile the facility lands.
    Now, let’s assume the vast majority of providers put in a gargantuan effort on quality and they are all in the score area previously occupied by the highest quintile. What happens? If their logic is followed, most of the improvers will not lie in the newly calculated top quintile and not attain the five stars.
    My avatar would pull his hair out – if he had any!

  20. Michelle Grattan is very slow to admit her shortsightedness …

    “Painful to watch, Morrison’s performance was another reminder of how out of touch with his surroundings he can be, which was a major reason he flopped as PM.”…. But she never said that when he was PM…
    & her begrudging assessment on a positive Gov initiative is due to… “The legislation was always going to get through. The government is fortunate in having a compliant Senate, and the energy story gave an insight into how it operates.”

    Michelle , it’s not compliment.. it’s supportive .

  21. Quasar says:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:12 am
    As one who has siblings and their families in the Pentecostal churches, I have become increasingly concerned about my niece’s extreme right wing conspiracy Facebook posts.
    I’m wondering if there’s a link between happy clappers and the ‘Cooker’ movement.
    ——————————————————————————————

    From my observations and experience, there is a real tendency among Pentecostals to ‘give everything over to God, he’ll fix it if it’s his will to do so’ that obviates the need for either personal responsibility or understanding of science. The next logical step of course is to decry and demonise those (the majority) who accept personal responsibility and take the time to understand science. This can sometimes result in groups turning inward, cutting themselves off from normal society and seeing most issues in zero sum terms of good and evil. There are distinct similarities between cookers and some dystopian Pentecostals.

  22. ‘Voice Endeavour says:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 9:42 am

    NSW politics question.

    Where are the Greens targeting for the upcoming election? This seems like the first for a while (ok, WA I guess) where there’s little discussion of or possibility of a Green wave. Which is funny, because the competition the Greens face in NSW is pretty low quality compared to other States.

    Upper house, it looks pretty hard for the Greens to get off 2+2. Which I guess is a technically a gain considering they had 1 2015 LC member leave the party. Getting to 3/21 seems like a pretty hard ask.

    Lower house, they don’t really have any potential gains I can see. Lismore maybe, but they’d need some swing to come to them from both Labor and Nationals. There’s 4 Liberal seats where they are 2nd, but Manly is the most achievable of them, and that’s not a great claim.

    I guess maybe the best hope for the Greens is that they maintain the same number of seats (3 lower 4 upper) but get more influence out of it depending on how the houses end up?’
    ============================
    Any party that buggers up the chance of the Voice referendum, which is against sending military equipment to a democracy battling an autocracy and which voted FOR subsidies going to the Fossil Cartel deserves to lose all of its seats. I hope the voters of NSW send the Greens a message.

  23. RC wittiness Sandra Bevan showing how she was shafted by Centre Link, again the system was never designed to be correct in any part.

    The RC findings will ensure Scott Morrison resigns & moves to Hawaii, there can be no other just result

  24. Sceptic @ #1040 Friday, December 16th, 2022 – 11:01 am

    RC wittiness Sandra Bevan showing how she was shafted by Centre Link, again the system was never designed to be correct in any part.

    The RC findings will ensure Scott Morrison resigns & moves to Hawaii, there can be no other just result

    Resigns and God determines he should go to the place he doesn’t think he’s destined for?

  25. As Lisa Simpson quite rightly said, religious wars “always come down to transubstantiation versus consubstantiation”

    And if you think that is a rational argument, God help you.

  26. The Greens attract considerable hate from religious fundamentalists and former religious fundamentalists. Some things become ingrained.

  27. I notice some people on here saying donny dump is on twitter saying “this or that”:
    He’s not since he got kicked off in 2021*, he’s on his own platform “Truth” 🙄 the
    truthiest of all truthy platforms 😆

    As for those playing cards, Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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    😆

    * so far has refused to go back on

  28. Equity markets sank on Friday as global central banks vowed to keep raising interest rates in the new year to quell stubborn inflation, intensifying fears that the global economy is on the brink of recession. The European Central Bank slowed the pace of its policy tightening by lifting interest rates by 0.5 percentage points to 2 per cent, in line with economist expectations.

    However, ECB president Christine Lagarde warned that rates would still need to rise “significantly” higher next year as policymakers attempt to cool the worst inflation in the history of the monetary union. “Anybody who thinks that this is a pivot for the ECB is wrong,” Ms Lagarde told the post-decision press conference. “We should expect to raise interest rates at a 50 basis point-pace for a period of time.”

    The US S&P 500 dropped 2.5 per cent to its lowest level in more than a month, while the tech-heavy Nasdaq lost 3.2 per cent, and the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 2.2 per cent. The European Stoxx 600 tumbled 2.85 per cent. The Australian S&P/ASX 200 dropped 1.2 per cent to 7117.6 at the open, dragged lower by heavy losses across the rate-sensitive technology sector. Afterpay-owner Block shed 4.6 per cent to $98.19 and Altium lost 3.5 per cent to $36.27.

    https://www.afr.com/markets/equity-markets/shares-plunge-as-hawkish-ecb-escalates-recession-anxiety-20221216-p5c6uv#Echobox=1671148034

  29. “out of touch with his surroundings”? FFS.
    How about belligerent sociopathic w@nker? And follow on from that…. why was such a character elected as leader of one of the two major political parties by people who must have known what he was like.

    Morrison had some superficial likeness to Keating. However, at Keatings core was an honourable effort to make Australia a better place for all. Major change against powerful forces requires a level of belligerence and pigheadedness. The difference between a Keating and the likes of Morrison and Trump may seem minor on the surface – but if a journo chooses to dig a little deeper (as they should) they will see they are worlds apart. Morrison and Trump only ever cared about themselves. They couldnt even be bothered to try the LBJ principle – that arseholes can do some good.

  30. Written as if Murdoch played no part in the growth of right-wing violent extremism.

    Beware toxic extremism lurking on the fringes
    A growing movement that deems the state illegitimate and to be resisted with lethal force appears to be behind the murder of two young police officers in Queensland this week. (Oz headline)

  31. Looks like Essendon was correct to disassociate themselves from this fellow.

    Thorburn quits church, all corporate boards
    Former National Australia Bank chief executive Andrew Thorburn is calling it quits from the church at the centre of his abrupt exit from Essendon, where he was to be chair. (Oz headline)

  32. Q ;Written as if Murdoch played no part in the growth of right-wing violent extremism.

    And I loved Dutton in Parliament after the police killings saying the online world should calm down the hysteria and be more respectful, and then launched into a hysterical tirade about how Labor is a total catastrophe for the country……

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