Essential Research 2PP+: Labor 51, Coalition 44, undecided 5 (open thread)

Essential Research offers unsurprising numbers on voting intention and prime ministerial approval, and continues to find a clear majority in favour of an Indigenous voice to parliament.

Essential Research seems to have a new routine of discreetly slipping out federal voting intention numbers without trumpeting them in their weekly report. Labor is on 35% (up two), the Coalition 30% (down one), Greens 13% (steady), others 17% (steady) with 5% undecided (down one). The “2PP+” two-party measure has Labor steady on 51%, the Coalition up one to 44% and undecided down one to 5%. The weekly report has the monthly personal ratings for Anthony Albanese, which have him unchanged at 60% approval and 27%.

A forced response question on a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous voice to parliament runs 63-37 in favour, in from 65-35 in August. Respondents were presented with four questions querying their understanding of the issue, which found 25% holding the incorrect view that the proposed body would be able to block parliamentary legislation, with 26% believing otherwise and 50% not sure. Forty per cent expected 2023 would be a better year for Australia, compared with 24% for worse and 25% for no difference. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1042.

Roy Morgan’s weekly video informs us that their latest federal two-party numbers have Labor’s lead out from 54.5-45.5 to 56.5-43.5.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. davesays:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 12:42 pm
    Government to abolish the Administrative Appeals Tribunal
    By Broede Carmody

    Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus has just announced that the Albanese government will abolish the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.

    Here’s a taste of the Labor frontbencher’s opening remarks:

    Today, I’m announcing the Albanese government will abolish the Administrative Appeals Tribunal, the AAT, and replace it with an administrative review body that better serves the interest of the Australian community.

    The AAT’s public standing has been irreversibly damaged as a result of the actions of the former government over nine years. By appointing 85 former Liberal MPs, former Liberal staffers and other close Liberal associates without any merit-based selection process – including some individuals with no relevant experience or expertise – the former government fatally compromised the AAT, undermined its independence and eroded the quality and efficiency of its decision-making. This was a disgraceful exhibition of cronyism by the Liberal Party.

    The AAT’s dysfunction has had a very real cost to the tens of thousands of people who rely on the AAT chair to independently review government decisions that have made major- and sometimes life changing – impacts on their lives. Decisions such as whether an old Australian receives an aged pension, whether a veteran is compensated for a service injury or whether a participant in the NDIS received funding for support.

    The Albanese government is committed to delivering a new, accessible, sustainable and trusted Administrative Review Tribunal that serves the interests of the Australian people. A central pillar will be a new transparent merit-based appointments process.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-news-live-labor-s-energy-bill-passes-the-senate-new-rules-on-who-can-call-themselves-a-cosmetic-surgeon-20221215-p5c6qy.html#p54g93

    Atlast!

  2. “fried their brains with known mind-altering substances” – that line in relation to cannabis could have been taken straight out of Reefer Madness. Boerwar it will do your head in when you find out how many on the Labor Right personally support cannabis law reform. SDA types excluded of course.

  3. she has been active on colars and the asisted duying and abortion ishue but grenwich has a hivgher profile and she joined in perottits anti pockies wedge now that ferucki and shoebridge are in the snenate the two defacto leaders they have litle profile also interesting how the shooters party will perform given theborsak and the head office of the party are at war with butler and donarto there two mps benasiak seems to be in the middle maybi it leaves an opening for one nationklegalise canabus which im suspicious of given there wa mp sofia orman is an anti vackser the party is nota progresive one this explains shoebridges sudden campaign to legalise canibas to counter the growing rise of legalise canabis in wa and vick might be a good story with admin tribunal but what egzacktly will dreyfuss replace it with the most active campaigner to decriminalize drugs in nsw is not the greens but when she was a back bencher close minns friend left wing labor upper house mp rose jackson maybi ajp can pick up a seat as well safern is popular in lismore and should have ran for page again where nats got a swing to them

  4. Great news on the AAT. At a time when (it’s claimed) that the state of budget constrains reform that involves big expenditure, it’s very useful to focus on institutional reform, with less financial impact. NACC falls into this category as does abolition of the shamelessly stacked AAT, and Privacy reform (facilitated nicely by our friends at Optus and Medibank). I’m hoping that the previous noises about electoral reform also translate into legislation sooner rather than later.

  5. The Victorian Greens stupidly did not make cannabis legalisation a key item on their agenda for negotiation with the government. Thereby opening up room for the legalise cannabis party to claim more seats.

  6. bower seems to bea oldshoppies labor person think the greens are worse then the liberals the path to victory is triying to be liberal light unfortunatly for the shoppies Donn farrell the new trade minister has made no impact at all in geting china to get rid of the trade tariths he seems to have achieved little acsept for factional games blocking marige equality for a decade and distroying the partycausing he infighting when gilard replaced rudd now he has a real jobabnd has not achieved much not even pasing spending caps at election at least the shoppies rishworth has abolished cashlis welfare card

  7. ‘simm0888 says:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:21 pm

    “fried their brains with known mind-altering substances” – that line in relation to cannabis could have been taken straight out of Reefer Madness. ….’
    ——————————
    1. Doping is a lifestyle choice. No individual HAS to smoke dope.
    2. Dope and other recreational drugs on a population basis do do mental damage.
    3. I take it you have never seen anyone undergoing a cannabis-induced psychotic episode? I sincerely hope you never do.

  8. unfortunatly for bw apart from sa theeven tony buurke has given up his anti uthernasia campaign and agred to backterotory rights after decades of opposition the only true cathlick shoppies left is gregg donnely andin nsw and petersome in south australian government

  9. ‘AAron newton says:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:26 pm

    bower seems to bea oldshoppies labor person think the greens are worse then the liberals….’
    —————————————————————
    The Greens have spent 15 years variously fucking Labor over, firstly by abusing the Senate BOP and secondly with the ruthless and relentless ‘same old same old’ Big Lie repeated endlessly.

    The Greens are working on busting the voice. The Liberals are not.

    The Greens want to stop military equipment exports to Ukraine. The Liberals support it.

    On some policies the Greens are better than the Liberals. On some policies they are worse than the Liberals. They share with the Liberals a political desire to wedge Labor and to destroy Labor.

    You be the judge.

  10. ‘wranslide says:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:28 pm

    I think Labor should appoint a News Corp Executive to head the AAT or whatever it is going to be called.’
    ————————————————————-
    You are certainly frotting this one with diligence. You must think you are onto some sort of winner, eh?
    My view?
    Appoint the best person for the job. Like they Labor is going to do with the revamped admin appeals tribunal.

  11. Can the current tribunal members just be terminated (subject to the usual entitlements, of course), or are they subject to the same job security provisions as Judges?

  12. Boerwar says:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:57 am
    Cronus
    Quite a bit of the oomph in the Wars of Religion had to do with the doctrine of predestination.
    ——————————————————————————————

    Ugh, don’t get me started, you’re taking me back to my, Methodist v Baptist V Presbyterian days. The endless minutiae of theology.

  13. ACOSS is finally ramming home the responsibility of the Ministers and the Prime Ministers of the time for the bastardry of Robodebt.

    Yes, it was illegal. But the real vileness was the way it was implemented – not its illegality – that was just symptomatic of the mindset that gave rise to Robodebt and pursued it for half a decade until brought to an end by the Federal Court.

  14. Poor old Integrity Rexy showing chagrin that Labor, in removing wood as a ‘renewable’ source of energy, in taking on his dearly-beloved Fossil Cartel while also demolishing the AAT, is once again demolishing the Greens’ Big Lie about ‘same old, same old’.

    85 peeps to be ‘managed out’ should have had Integrity Rexy salivating. But no. He indulges in a personal attack on an innocent Bludger.

  15. hopefuly the sexist cristion edxtremist greg donnely will be managed out buy the shoppies in 2023 from the nsw upper house he is obsessed with culture wars and apart from exposing the nsw reajonl health crciss offers little to popolitics acsept causing abuse to be leviled at a pro choice acdavist at university triying to get them exbelled and triying to close down trans gender clinicks how can bernie smith claim the shoppies have moved away from there moral agender when he preselected him foor an other eight years in 2019 not to mention his other bezare speeches

  16. Rex Douglas says:
    “Who is more tedious – the fossil fuel cartel defending their exploits or boerwar attacking the Greens …?”

    [signals for TV umpire]

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  18. ‘Oliver Sutton says:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:38 pm

    Rex Douglas says:
    “Who is more tedious – the fossil fuel cartel defending their exploits or boerwar attacking the Greens …?”

    [signals for TV umpire]
    ….’
    ====================
    And good old Unctious Ollie runs in like a jackal.

  19. On the AAT, terrific news and another millstone around the neck of Morrison who bears the majority of the culpability for the hopelessly compromised body the Coalition left behind.

  20. Cassandra Goldie’s wishes for the outcome of the RC are mine too. Punishment of the guilty is a second order thing – it is the very heart of the culture that has to change.

    At least we now have a Prime Minister with direct experience of being on income support for an extended time.

  21. bower is only attacking the greens because the shoppies union has lost the culture wars it distracts us from the fact abortion decriminalization was achieved volintary asisted duying in nsw marige equality terotory rights any he sometimes has desent contrabutions like defence but the repetative anti chine and greens attacks straight out of the murdock talking points is very frustrating it fills speace when we could be discussing serouspolicy in stead of the same attacks over cprs of a decade a go which is not relavent to today

  22. Kevin Bonham – 1250pm

    Had time in Covid-land (hospital numbers easing in Victoria thankfully!) this Friday afternoon to read this whole post – thank you, an excellent summary.

    In particular fascinating that First-Past-The-Post (which some people call for, thinking the Greens and Teals are (unfairly?) ‘ganging up’ with Labor against the Coalition) would have barely altered the 56ALP-28*LNP-3GRN result – to I think 56ALP-27*LNP-3GRN-1IND.

    And also the analysis of how the current spread of seats and margins is making it really hard for the Coalition in 2026 even if they should have a very good result like 50-50TPP or even 51-49.

  23. yes the greens made a mistake voting against the cprs based on same same how ever rudd freesing them out wasnot smart politicaly smart refused to negociate with them in stead triying to do a dirty deal to weakin action with turnbull good news on aat but still does not explain whiy sinedenos is still in woshington and fifield in un and whiy they have not been managed out

  24. Telling comment from Goldie was the only thing that stopped Robodebt was the court case. But if the Nasty Party had had the numbers in the senate they would have simply legislated accordingly and the scheme would have gone on.
    Frightening.

  25. An

    Oh, Christ, you are onto your fave shoppies. Nothing to do with me. I have never had anything to do with your fave bete noir, the SDA.

    We will now go for a rerun of dozens of posts on present and past evil perpetrated by the SDA and for a bit of slagging of SDA peeps.

    Go for it mate but even you should be aware that the SDA did NOT make the Greens into Voice Busters, that the SDA did not force the Greens to oppose sending military equipment to Ukraine and the SDA did NOT force the Greens to vote FOR subsidies for the Fossil Cartel.

  26. Twitter suspended several high-profile journalists Thursday evening who have been covering the company and Elon Musk. Some messages indicated the accounts were “permanently suspended.”

    The suspensions come a day after Twitter changed its policies around accounts that track private jets, including one owned by Elon Musk.

    The accounts of Ryan Mac of The New York Times, Donie O’Sullivan of CNN, Drew Harwell of The Washington Post, Matt Binder of Mashable, Micah Lee of The Intercept, Steve Herman of Voice of America and independent journalists Aaron Rupar, Keith Olbermann and Tony Webster had all been suspended as of Thursday evening.

  27. Listening to Dreyfus it sounded like only “qualified” people currently sitting on AAT wi be invited to apply to the new body. He stipulated that there’d be an independent selection body and in the interim, govt will employ over 100 new tribunal members to fix the backlog created by LNP.

    Slowly but surely (actually, quite quickly) Labor govt turning the ship of state in the right direction.

  28. Unctious Ollie does not like his jackal-like behaviour being called out.

    He has an army, apparently. Would this be the army that is trying to suppress the Voice? Would this be the army that opposes sending military equipment to Ukraine? Would this be the army that voted for subsidies for the Fossil Cartel after their generallissimo screamed bloody murder about it last sunday?
    No wonder you are sucking up to Integrity Rexy. Much better than actually discussing the Greens’ bastardy in destroying the Voice.

  29. “The Albanese government is committed to delivering a new, accessible, sustainable and trusted Administrative Review Tribunal that serves the interests of the Australian people. A central pillar will be a new transparent merit-based appointments process.”
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-16/administrative-appeals-tribunal-abolished-by-attorney-general/101781300

    Hurray! Thanks Mark Dreyfus. The truth of the festering sore that the AAT has been exposed, and the boil lanced.

    I’m not sure which thought makes me happier. That people appealing government decisions will get a fair hearing from a qualified person, or that all those Liberal ex-MP grifters will have to find an honest job.

  30. ‘JenAuthor says:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:49 pm

    Listening to Dreyfus it sounded like only “qualified” people currently sitting on AAT wi be invited to apply to the new body. He stipulated that there’d be an independent selection body and in the interim, govt will employ over 100 new tribunal members to fix the backlog created by LNP.

    Slowly but surely (actually, quite quickly) Labor govt turning the ship of state in the right direction.’
    —————————–
    I was ruminating on this very point. Definitions of ‘merit’ usually include reference to prior relevant experience. All 85 would be able to claim actual experience on the AAT as indicative of their ‘merit’. How to sort the wheat from the chaff?

  31. ‘Simon Henny Penny Katich says:
    Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:50 pm

    Should we expect some rather fanciful retrenchment demands from the politically appointed tribunal members?’
    ———————
    Snouters always squeal when the trough is removed. That said, there are some decent appointments to the AAT and natural justice demands that they be paid out in some fashion. They are innocent victims of the Coalition Corruption.

  32. Interesting Cameron Milner calling out IR Law, convoluted energy market laws and superannuation being used to fund housing as poorly thought out changes, sounds like a bit of a Cassandra – maybe he should be given some of that boerwar bath water to drink?

  33. One way of managing the collateral damage in an AAT spill-and-fill is to allow for a bridging mechanism whereby current appointees who get a gig in the new body are bridged into the new institution.

  34. Great initiative by the Attorney to ‘abolish’ the AAT & replace it with an admin review body minus 85 Tories. To cap a stunning year off, he should nollie the indictments against Boyle, McBride:

    [‘Today, I’m announcing the Albanese government will abolish the Administrative Appeals Tribunal, the AAT, and replace it with an administrative review body that better serves the interest of the Australian community.

    The AAT’s public standing has been irreversibly damaged as a result of the actions of the former government over nine years.

    By appointing 85 former Liberal MPs, former Liberal staffers and other close Liberal associates without any merit-based selection process – including some individuals with no relevant experience or expertise – the former government fatally compromised the AAT, undermined its independence and eroded the quality and efficiency of its decision-making. This was a disgraceful exhibition of cronyism by the Liberal Party.

    The AAT’s dysfunction has had a very real cost to the tens of thousands of people who rely on the AAT chair to independently review government decisions that have made major- and sometimes life changing – impacts on their lives. Decisions such as whether an old Australian receives an aged pension, whether a veteran is compensated for a service injury or whether a participant in the NDIS received funding for support.

    The Albanese government is committed to delivering a new, accessible, sustainable and trusted Administrative Review Tribunal that serves the interests of the Australian people.’] SMH

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