Newspoll quarterly aggregates: July to December (open thread)

Relatively modest leads for the Coalition among Queenslanders, Christians and those 65-and-over, with Labor dominant everywhere else.

As it usually does on Boxing Day, The Australian has published quarterly aggregates of Newspoll with state and demographic breakdowns, on this occasion casting an unusually wide net from its polling all the way back to July to early this month, reflecting the relative infrequency of its results over this time. The result is a combined survey of 5771 respondents that finds Labor leading 55-45 in New South Wales (a swing of about 3.5% to Labor compared with the election), 57-43 in Victoria (about 2%), 55-45 in Western Australia (no change) and 57-43 in South Australia (a 4.0% swing), while trailing 51-49 in Queensland a 3% swing).

Gender breakdowns show only a slight gap, with Labor leading 54-46 among men and 56-44 among women, with the Greens as usual stronger among women among men. Age cohort results trend from 65-35 to Labor for 18-to-34 to 54-46 to the Coalition among 65-plus, with the Greens respectively on 24% and 3%. Little variation is recorded according to education or income, but Labor are strongest among part-time workers and weakest among the retired, stronger among non-English speakers but well ahead either way, and 62-38 ahead among those identifying as of no religion but 53-47 behind among Christians. You can find all the relevant data, at least for voting intention, in the poll data feature on BludgerTrack.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. nath says:
    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 7:54 pm
    Have a good one Upnorth and to all other non crazies. It’s a vodka night for me, with a blunt or 2 or 3 or 4.
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    Good on ya cobber. Be safe matey.

  2. As much of a disrespectful sewer dweller as ever, Andrew_Earlwood. I’ll go and give myself 50 lashes for not being a follower of Couch General Earlwood, and having opinions which don’t conform to yours. At least you’ve woken up to yourself and realised the French were never going to be given the new submarine contract, no matter how superior you thought theirs were. That’s some progress on your part, I guess. 😐

  3. 6. Mick Jagger dies.

    Keef Richards outlives him!?! I always knew they filled him with embalming fluid and a motor when he received that transfusion. 😆

  4. Thanks for the links, Dr Doolittle. To which I can only add that it wouldn’t be doing Warren Mundine’s headspace any good to be married to Gerard Henderson’s daughter.

  5. Andrew Earlwood 7.48

    “ You might remember my suggestion – on day one of the AUKUS announceable – that the federal government should have proceeded with the Block One (4 boat build) of the Attack class program, add in France to the tripartite technology sharing agreement announcement of the day (I can still recall C@t blathering on about AI and Interoperabiulity – oblivious to the that that most of the high end senor kit on offer was actually a product of anglo-french development over the past 20 years) and conducting a proper feasibility study involving those three nations as to future SSNs. Obviously, that would have effectively given the ultimate contracts (both the SSK interim and final SSN) to the French as prime contractors.”

    Yes I do remember that well. I did not fully agree at the time but my mistake was to assume that defense chiefs would not just lie to get what they wanted. They did lie, or at best made stuff up they did not understand.

    It is only heresay but I have since read on several naval forums French poster’ statements that Naval (with French government approval) had offered to build SSNs for the RAN.
    “ They offered the original Suffren N version, within the NPT, built in Australia, with reactors shipped from Fr( and an inventory of N fuel /robotized to change it every 10 years ”

    This makes sense because it is now clear to me that France has by far the greatest ability to refuel RAN SSNs in Australia. Areva have already refueled Lucan Heights. They supply 60% of the world’s LEU reactor fuel market. They are also the biggest reprocesser of spent fuel.

    In fact the problem is the other way around. The ANSTO scientists who dealt with HEU reactor cores back in the 1960s to 90s are all retired.

    So the Suffren is also the option that best protects Australian sovereignty because it is the one we could best maintain and refuel locally. Any work on a US or UK reactor would probably require us to send the sub back to US or UK.

    The biggest time constraint on AUKUS is the time to design a new SSN (historically 5+years), and UK and US shipyard unavailability. Building Attack class followed by Suffrens is the only option that avoids have to design a new or modified sub.

    This is why in my submission I concluded that the US or UK sub choice will delay construction by 4 to 7 years compared to continuing with the French design.

  6. Cat

    Putting personalities aside, at this point IMO the technical facts don’t support the AUKUS switch from French to US/UK subs for the reasons stated. It was either domestic politics or personal prejudices. We are paying a high price for that.

    There may be good reasons for the change. But if those reasons exist, they have not been made public.

  7. Cat

    Are you happy that the change in sub choice means that Adelaide will not see any job benefit from sub construction for at least four to seven years later than if we had proceeded with a French SSN design?

  8. @Grant_ExLibris

    No idea what your day job is but I would pack it in and start pitching scripts to Hollywood or start writing novels
    ——————–
    2. Britain’s economy collapses and falls into a depression. Strikes across all sectors are a daily occurrence. Tens of thousands die due to a horrid winter. There is anarchy on the streets. King Charles dies suddenly.
    ———————————–
    Fantastic dark reality film/novel, also need the Tory Govt to collapse and bring in the army to cover the strikes e.g. power/essential services, a real might happen scenario.
    ——————————–
    10. Russia launches missile strike to Ukraine… go off course and destroy several British Airways jets killing hundreds. Doomsday clock moved to 1 second to midnight. The world waits. Britain destroys several Russian ships and announces they will ‘destroy’ Moscow with nuclear weapons.
    ———————————————————————-
    Just need to add a James Bond moment and could be a decent 007 movie especially if SECTRE is behind controlling Putin. All sorts of twists especially if the UK economy and the Govt is facing collapse – snap election and Falklands MK2 result
    ————————————————————————

    11. Nuclear missile misfires in North Korea… thousands killed. The first example of a nuclear warhead being exploded in recent memory with the results shown to the world.
    ——————————————————————

    Another great thiller, was is a misfire or sabotage,rouge elements in the politburo?

  9. Rakali says:
    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 8:43 pm
    Oh look!

    i found a picture of the Queensland Premier on line …
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    Stacia has aged well. I was a bit keen on her in Young Labor days. But enough said.

  10. Breaking BBC

    Former Pope Benedict XVI has died at his Vatican residence, aged 95, almost a decade after he stood down because of ailing health.

  11. Sorry, my mistake, that was a picture of Hildegard Lohbauer, just a run of the mill kapo in a concentration camp.

    There is no evidence she traumatised children or supported the re- traumatisation of children.

    Unlike the current Gauleiter in George Street.

    The Gauleiter wants 20 years in the camp for a traumatised 11/year old child who steals a car.

  12. Cronus:

    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 6:44 pm

    Cronus:

    [‘…dementia is not inevitable.’]

    It is in my family. Although they have a history of longevity, most have either died of Alzheimer’s or vascular dementia. I occasionally self-administer the mini-mental examination, which is de rigueur when taking instructions for a will, when it’s fairly obvious that a client has cognitive issues. I’m scoring pretty well at this time but I know it’s unlikely to last. A piece of gratuitous advice, get your affairs in order before dementia raises its ugly head as incapacity invariably negatives a testator’s intentions, a paramount consideration.

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    laughtong:

    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 7:13 pm

    [‘Happy New Year Bludgers. We are not going out – rarely do on NYE. Too many idiots with fireworks upsetting the dog.’]

    Due to the number of fireworks tonight on the Goldie, starting at 9PM at Carrara, culminating with the big one of the coast somewhere, I’ve somewhat reluctantly – make that happily – volunteered to look after the pets tonight: Boggie, a cross-staffi labrador & Charlie, a very serious German Shepherd.

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    To William: you’re doing a top job, the glue who keeps this site in some semblance of order, in the absence of which, we might have to resort to dear BB’s blog or dear GG’s, if he runs one. Having said that, please don’t go, as I’ve gleaned from a recent post of yours.

    ________________________________________

    Emeritus Pope Benedict has gone to Heaven.

  13. Upnorth says:
    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 8:48 pm
    Breaking BBC

    Former Pope Benedict XVI has died at his Vatican residence, aged 95, almost a decade after he stood down because of ailing health.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    First off the press Upnorth.
    A little celebration this evening for catholic child sexual abuse survivors.

  14. With sorrow I inform you that the Pope Emeritus, Benedict XVI, passed away today at 9:34 in the Mater Ecclesiae Monastery in the Vatican.

  15. Socrates @ #1864 Saturday, December 31st, 2022 – 8:43 pm

    Cat

    Are you happy that the change in sub choice means that Adelaide will not see any job benefit from sub construction for at least four to seven years later than if we had proceeded with a French SSN design?

    Of course not, but I’m not the one making the decisions. I simply look at what seems to me to be the way things are going.

  16. Happy New Year one and all! That story about there being a lot of illegal fireworks around is pretty spot on. I’ve seen two lots go off just in the vicinity of my place already and they aren’t going off from any locally sanctioned site.

    You know, sometimes PollBludger reminds me of this:

    🙂

  17. It’s revealing how low level sexual abuse results in a massive amount of media coverage but a policy of institutionalised child trauma is not worth commenting on.

    I gather the trendy wokist genderists are getting paedophilia redefined as “minor attraction”.

    It is very very wrong.

    Support for the abuse of children is an absolute red line for me.

  18. Dr John:

    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    Emeritus Pope Benedict has gone to Heaven.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    [‘Your surely taking the piss!’]

    You mean he’s going elswhere?

  19. “ Emeritus Pope Benedict has gone to Heaven.”

    Hmmm, that really strains belief in the alleged entry requirements for that alleged place.

    As Cardinal Ratzinger under JP2 prior to becoming pope, Ratzinger/Benedict was the person primarily responsible for oversight of the catholic church’s policy of silencing allegations of child sexual abuse under Crimen Solicitationis.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimen_sollicitationis

  20. C@t

    Yes, I think he believes that every Indigenous Australian can fight their way to the top like he has been able to

    It’s extremely naive to hold the view that Mr Mundine “fought his way to the top”. All of his recent business has involved large Commonwealth grants from the previous government, and opaque processes for award thereof. It’s easy to “fight one’s way to the top” if one is being showered with government money. Apparently it also leads to a belief in “trickle down”, though it seems to have been more than a trickle – thirty pieces of silver, and then some more…

    Returning to the Voice, eventually (after some shouting) it seems to me that it will be those who have genuinely “fought their way to the top”, of whom there are now quite a few (e.g. the recently appointed Supreme Court judge) and more every day. As far as I can see, the traditional culture(s) had a great deal of respect for elders, and treated young whippersnappers (such as a certain Senator, perhaps) as being less serious.

  21. Socrates @ #1882 Saturday, December 31st, 2022 – 9:24 pm

    “ Emeritus Pope Benedict has gone to Heaven.”

    Hmmm, that really strains belief in the alleged entry requirements for that alleged place.

    As Cardinal Ratzinger under JP2 prior to becoming pope, Ratzinger/Benedict was the person primarily responsible for oversight of the catholic church’s policy of silencing allegations of child sexual abuse under Crimen Solicitationis.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimen_sollicitationis

    They actually made mention of that in the ABC’s coverage.

  22. Happies all. Ta to our William, and my prediction for 2023 is that it will be certainly be better politically than 2021. Relative to 2022, well, for a leftie, 2022 was a pretty good year wasn’t it?? 🙂

    Soc, ta fer dat link to Covert Shores. Interesting that Hutton put the Taigie class top of his list? I suspect that’s on the basis of LIB’s. Japanese are certainly in the lead getting those operational with the Koreans not far behind i think. A26 a very interesting boat.

    Attack class probably still the best choice for Aus i reckon, but really think a revision of electrical systems and using LIB would put it right out there as the best choice for Oceanic operations for Australia. Boat that size with LIB installed?? Expect a very low indiscretion rate and waaaaayy quiet at tactical speeds.

    If the submarine fan in me wants a prezzie for 2023 it would be the Australian Govt choosing Naval for 4 SSK Attack class, and the rest as Barracuda class SSN’s. I really think we have to avoid HEU reactors.

    But hey, a longer Taigei (more range) and keep it in daH Quad??? 🙂

    Still….all that will get decided way above my pay grade as they say. 🙂

  23. Cat

    “ They actually made mention of that in the ABC’s coverage.”

    Glad to hear it. He allowed monstrous evil to go on for years. A very flawed man.

  24. Socrates

    As Cardinal Ratzinger under JP2 prior to becoming pope, Ratzinger/Benedict was the person primarily responsible for oversight of the catholic church’s policy of silencing allegations of child sexual abuse under Crimen Solicitationis.
    ———-

    Thank God for Wokapedia, the new age Pravda, where Ratzinger was expressly made responsible for silencing….blah vlah

    That statement is so absurd because how can anyone be silenced!, in the west. But Im sure its taken as gospel on Pollgrifter.

    As the say… garbage in .. garbage out.

  25. zoomster says:
    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    But I just can’t barrack for Collingwood….
    ________
    Of course not. The hatred of Collingwood began in the nineteenth century when Collingwood was the poorest of all the Melbourne suburbs, the real working class. They also happened to have the best and toughest players and dominated the era of suburban football. It’s close ties to the Labour movement and the Australian Labor Party are part of political folklore.

    What in all of that would a Labor member sympathize with?

  26. Socrates:

    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    “ Emeritus Pope Benedict has gone to Heaven.”

    [‘Hmmm, that really strains belief in the alleged entry requirements for that alleged place.’]

    You don’t think then that Benedict shouldn’t be given at least a smidgeon of respect? I think you’re better than that Soc. By the way, I highly recommend viewing the “The Two Popes” on Netflix.


  27. zoomstersays:
    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:19 pm
    I like to barrack for AFL teams where ex students are players.

    But I just can’t barrack for Collingwood….

    Zoomster
    You cannot barrack for Collingwood because ex-students don’t play for that club or simply because it is Collingwood? 🙂

  28. nath says:
    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:49 pm
    zoomster says:
    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    But I just can’t barrack for Collingwood….
    ________
    Of course not. The hatred of Collingwood began in the nineteenth century when Collingwood was the poorest of all the Melbourne suburbs, the real working class. They also happened to have the best and toughest players and dominated the era of suburban football. It’s close ties to the Labour movement and the Australian Labor Party are part of political folklore.

    What in all of that would a Labor member sympathize with?
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    Brisbane Valleys


  29. Mavissays:
    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:54 pm
    Socrates:

    Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    “ Emeritus Pope Benedict has gone to Heaven.”

    [‘Hmmm, that really strains belief in the alleged entry requirements for that alleged place.’]

    You don’t think then that Benedict shouldn’t be given at least a smidgeon of respect? I think you’re better than that Soc. By the way, I highly recommend viewing the “The Two Popes” on Netflix.

    Ratzinger?

  30. You don’t think then that Benedict shouldn’t be given at least a smidgeon of respect? I think you’re better than that Soc. By the way, I highly recommend viewing the “The Two Popes” on Netflix.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You and Barry Humphries surely taking the piss!!!

  31. Rakali

    I was referring to the period Ratzinger was head of the Congregation for Doctrine of the Faith. There is a huge number of articles on his role in that office. Here is one example.
    https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1624&context=cjil&httpsredir=1&referer=

    And Ratzinger/Benedict himself admitted he lied to protect the church.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/24/former-pope-benedict-statement-child-sexual-abuse-inquiry

    But believe what you choose to believe.

  32. The Wokists must be consoled by the fact that at least they have in Islam a religion where no woman or child or intellectual or non-conformist has ever been mis-gendered!

  33. Cat at 8.21 pm

    According to Mundine’s former wife, Lynette Riley, the final epithet he hurled at her was that she was “too Aboriginal” for him, and presumably for his political career. See:

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/game-changer-20130930-2un5f.html

    Mundine has been opposing constitutional recognition of Indigenous Peoples without fail since 2010. He has nothing new to say on the topic whatsoever.

    Goot and Rowse, in their 2021 article, claim Mundine was worth focusing upon because he was “an important figure in what now appears to be the failure of the campaign to recognise Indigenous Australians in the Constitution”. They did qualify the statement, but that shows the risk of making simple and false extrapolations from the recent past.

    Mundine is likely to be perplexed if Dutton plays safe and either supports Yes on Voice, or simply doesn’t try to herd his cats and allows a conscience vote on the Voice. Only Dutton has the capacity to spearhead a No campaign, which could boomerang on him.

  34. Mavis

    “ You don’t think then that Benedict shouldn’t be given at least a smidgeon of respect? I think you’re better than that Soc. By the way, I highly recommend viewing the “The Two Popes” on Netflix.”

    Sorry Mavis, but I’d really struggle in this case. I am quite familiar with Ratzinger’s history.

    I was raised catholic (christian brothers school in Brisbane) and was quite active in that church as a young man. At one stage I was the chair of the coordinating committee of a youth group that had several hundred members. Two friends I knew from school became catholic priests; one later left.

    As head of the CDF Ratzinger was the main enforcer of the counter-reformation against the reforms of Vatican II under JPII. He was ruthless. Opponents were kicked out of jobs within the church, including some prominent theologians.

    Pell was a good example of the sort of person JPII and Ratzinger put into bishoprics around the world.

    Ratzinger was a theologian who never served in a parish. He was intelligent and disciplined but also a very rigid personality type who put the needs of the institution ahead of the needs of people in it.

    I can recall the descriptions my former priest friends used to describe Ratzinger. I won’t repeat them here. They hated him. By the early 90s I had become an atheist, and have been to this day.

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