Resolve Strategic: Labor 39, Coalition 30, Greens 11 (open thread)

More thin gruel for honeymoon-is-over narratives, this time from Resolve Strategic.

The latest Resolve Strategic poll from the Age/Herald records no changes of consequence since the last such poll five weeks ago. Maintaining the pollster’s recent form as the strongest for Labor, it finds Labor down one on the primary vote to 39%, the Coalition steady on 30%, the Greens down one to 11% and One Nation steady on 6%. Based on preferences flows at the 2022 federal election, this would produce a two-party preferred of around 59-41 to Labor, compared with around 60-40 last time. Breakdowns for the three biggest states suggest Labor leads of around 58-42 in New South Wales, 63.5-36.5 in Victoria and 53.5-46.5 in Queensland.

Personal ratings find Anthony Albanese down slightly on both approval and disapproval, by two to 51% and one to 34%, while Peter Dutton is up three on approval to 31% and down one on disapproval to 47%. Preferred prime minister is little changed, with Albanese’s lead nudging from 53-22 to 51-21. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1610. If the pollster and its publisher maintain their recent pattern, it should followed over the next day or two by a Victorian state poll.

UPDATE: Further questions on the poll encompass attitudes to immigration, with the headline finding that 59% think the current rate too high, 25% about right and 3% too low.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Victoriasays:
    Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 8:44 am
    900,000 per annum pay? The PM gets no where near that amount

    Kathryn Campbell and Bruce Lehrmann are these mysteriously protected species.
    Like Morrison they could do no wrong. What a wonderful world we live.
    Daniel Andrews is dragged through mud for cancelling Commonwealth games but no condemnation of Morrison in September 2021 when he cancelled French Submarine deal, which is much bigger deal of national importance and security.
    Only much later he was criticised for no details on AUKUS deal but never critcised except by a few for cancelling French Submarine deal.

    AND IF YOU NOTICE IS PART OF ROBODEBT SCHEME AND AUKUS DEAL. LEHRMANN WAS SENIOR ADVISOR TO MORRISON ON DEFENCE ISSUES.


  2. Player Onesays:
    Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 8:42 am
    We are damned fools …

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/19/climate-crisis-james-hansen-scientist-warning

    The world is shifting towards a superheated climate not seen in the past 1m years, prior to human existence, because “we are damned fools” for not acting upon warnings over the climate crisis, according to James Hansen, the US scientist who alerted the world to the greenhouse effect in the 1980s.

    Many people seem to believe we are on a path to success combating global warming, whereas the reality may be that are on an ever-accelerating path to global catastrophe.

    It is like applying balm after 3rd degree burns.

  3. The best thing to do about global warming is to increase your coal fired capacity at six times the rest of the world combined. Add to that India’s stated ambition to increase coal-fired capacity to a billion tons a year. Fixing monsoon reliability, typhoon severity, glacier lake flood events, sea level rise, ocean acidification and decreases in staple production are clearly going to be somebody else’s problems.

  4. Mother & Son was just about my favourite show. And then I was put in the position of caring for an elderly parent. I wouldn’t watch it now if you pointed a gun at me. Too close to the bone. An excellently observed & produced series.


  5. Boerwarsays:
    Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 9:07 am
    The best thing to do about global warming is to increase your coal fired capacity at six times the rest of the world combined. Add to that India’s stated ambition to increase coal-fired capacity to a billion tons a year. Fixing monsoon reliability, typhoon severity, glacier lake flood events, sea level rise, ocean acidification and decreases in staple production are clearly going to be somebody else’s problems.

    To use BW twisted logic when it comes to China and India
    BW wants 2.8 billion people living in China and India to either live in poverty and/or die and he wants the developed nations, which exploited the Fossil fuel resources, even went to war (Iraq war 2 for that), and became rich to exploit those resources further.

    And he has temerity to criticise to criticise China and India.

  6. My pet theory on remakes and current pop culture is that our civilization has tapped out the media forms available to us, film, TV, music, radio, et al.

    Take pop music, it’s a form that’s about 70 years old now 1950s-2020s. Looking back at some earlier musical periods Renaissance era music, about 200 years. Baroque (Bach, Handel, Vivaldi) lasted about 150 years in a world where travel, copying music, sharing ideas took months and years. Classical Era music ( Mozart, Beethoven and Schubert) about 80-100 years, The Romantic era 70ish years (Brahms, Mendelssohn).

    Our culture hasn’t yet remade itself into something new, with new stories and ways to tell those stories. On Radio national yesterday I heard a session with a young author who wrote a book and spent 8 months using genAI to create the illustrations. So maybe that’s where we’ll be going soon.

    Whatever happens, I can assure you, that everything was better when we were young.

  7. It is good to see that Campbell has been suspended after due process.
    This is in the context of much baying for blood by populists. The latter don’t seem to either understand or care that we cannot depoliticize the APS by continuing to politicize it.

  8. The age is really upping the anti when it comes publishing bullshit.
    You save the all the running cost , but it won’t help the budget?

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/how-the-housing-crisis-helped-kill-off-the-commonwealth-games-20230719-p5dpij.html

    Pwc comes up with the budget yet they got it right because the warned their budget was shit?
    https://www.theage.com.au/cbd/pwc-report-got-it-right-on-the-risks-of-commonwealth-games-overruns-20230719-p5dpgr.html

  9. Mostly interested

    The only good thing back in the day when I was young. Was actually being young. Lol

    Cos on every other metric, times were shittier than now. Especially if one was of the female gender.

  10. Ben Elton wrote a comedic novel about climate change published in 1989 – Stark.

    It was and remains a staggering piece of prescient future history.

    It was set in Australia.

    If comedians knew 34 years ago, how come our civic leaders were permitted to look the other way?

    We are Farked!

    @Cat – you ok?

  11. So one side fights hard and dirty the other side doesn’t fight at all, how is that going?

    For public schools?
    For Univerisities?

    For pretty much any of the 1000’s of policy areas which are now under Labor a long long way to the right of first term Howard.

    Spoiler: it isn’t working except for the Tories.

  12. Frednk

    The Age as per usual is all over the shop. Btw I was surprised to see an article yesterday stating that the state of Victoria was the fourth best place in the world for foreign students.

  13. Ven

    Stating the facts is not criticism.

    The fact is that India has an ambition to increase coal burning to a billion tons a year.

    The fact is that China is increasing its coal fired capacity at six times the rate of the rest of the world combined.

    The facts are that these two actions will impact Indian and Chinese people.

    The fact is that both countries have committed to 0/60 without the uncomfortable situation of committing to interim targets.

    In terms of poverty, the facts are that India and China have scads of millionaires and billionaires and that a rebalance of wealth in both countries would eliminate poverty in both countries.

    Indian democracy supports Modi, so there is definitely an opportunity for Indian voters to fix the climate cooking ambitions there.

    China is run by a totalitarian megalomaniac so the coal fired situation cannot be resolved by Chinese citizens situations short of a revolution.


  14. Socrates says:
    Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 9:00 am

    So it is possible to realistically plan for major games with accurate costs. However in both cases you are talking about hiring an engineering team with planning, design and analysis skills for six months. Hiring EY or PwC to do a bit of cost benchmarking does none of those things.

    The budget that scared the shit out of Andrews came from somewhere. I bet it wasn’t PwC.

  15. Yeah. When I was young there were hundreds of millions of DPs, war refugees and economic refugees. Tens of millions of families had lost close relatives. Dozens of countries’ economies were physical, social and financial wastelands. World literacy was way lower. World life expectancy was way lower. World access to electricity, garbage and sewage services was much lower. Access to the complete range of consumer goods was much lower. The air was generally worse to breath. The water was generally more dangerous to drink. Social conservatism was stifling and deadly in particular to LGBTIQ+ folk. Simply being a woman was much, much tougher. Abortion was illegal. They were still hanging people. Police bashings were much more routine. Indigenous people did not own tens of millions of hectares of Australia. Virtually none had a post secondary education. Their kids and their wages were being stolen on a routine basis. Flying was for elites – seriously wealthy people. Access to information and knowledge was through a massive series of controls. etc, etc, etc.

  16. Frednk

    There are now people in the Vic government major projects unit who would be quite capable of costing works after all the programs they have delivered lately (e.g. rail crossing removals). A couple would have had to been taken off line for a few months.

    But as you suggested and I explained earlier, the original budget was out by more than usual. “Back of the envelope” figures smacks of Turnbull and Snowy II again.

    The CGF would have no idea. They are sporting administrators. They wouldn’t even see all the government staff costs (police overtime etc) for hosting events.

  17. Boerwar @ #903 Thursday, July 20th, 2023 – 9:07 am

    The best thing to do about global warming is to increase your coal fired capacity at six times the rest of the world combined. Add to that India’s stated ambition to increase coal-fired capacity to a billion tons a year. Fixing monsoon reliability, typhoon severity, glacier lake flood events, sea level rise, ocean acidification and decreases in staple production are clearly going to be somebody else’s problems.

    The best thing you could do is retire your fossil-fuelled SUV and buy an electric vehicle. Oh, and stop wasting electricity posting crap.

  18. I am all for games events being run as commercial projects without government or environmental subsidies. If that is what people want to do to their time and money, so be it.

    Beyond that, government funding for sports should be limited to those that improve social wellbeing at a population level. Encouraging aspirations to become an athletic freak should not be funded.

  19. Boerwar, the fact is China has built more renewable energy than the world combined and it has also consumes half the world’s coal. The CCP’s social contract is that they improve the quality of life for their citizens, and the citizens in exchange don’t make a fuss, you see this with the recent protests against China’s excessive lockdowns, which the CCP reversed once people actually started protesting. Frankly, even if China was the world’s most perfect democracy it would still be building as much energy as it could, coal or renewable, because the people care more about not being in poverty, not starving, having jobs and power, than climate change. Also, the claim that redistributing the wealth in China will fix it’s problems is quite absurd, even if China was perfectly egalitarian it HDI would still be far below the west’s.

  20. “(Encouraging aspirations to become an athletic freak should not be funded.)”

    But it could be financed by government, using something like HECS with a repayment requirement that sits at a very high threshold, such that those making millions from sporting success fund the system.

  21. DM

    HECs for Athletic Freaks Program.

    Since the vast majority will never make a living out of sports most of the HECs debts would never be repaid….??

  22. “Since the vast majority will never make a living out of sports most of the HECs debts would never be repaid….??”

    No not HECS; like HECS but with a reverse lottery element. The beneficiaries would pay many multiples of their individual costs to fund the system, or at least part of it.

  23. From the time of her very first Senate Estimates hearing representing DHS it was apparent that Kathryn Campbell was a piece of work. It seems she did not disappoint.

  24. ‘Australia’s defence department has “stonewalled” freedom of information requests about politicians’ use of its taxpayer-funded VIP jet fleet, prompting a scathing intervention from the information commissioner.’

    ‘The Labor government has so far declined to say whether it will resume publishing the reports on the jet fleet’s use, pointing to an ongoing security review by the defence department, Australian Federal Police, and the department of finance, which began in 2021.’

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/20/defence-department-stonewalled-foi-requests-on-politicians-use-of-raaf-vip-jet-fleet-says-greens

  25. “If Eskinazi is the answer I am quite confused by the question.”

    It was a joke following the dismissal of Warner.

    It linked to the openers question and the fact that Eskinazi was one of the openers in WA’s triple crown (the scorchers leg).

  26. [‘Australia’s defence department has “stonewalled” freedom of information requests about politicians’ use of its taxpayer-funded VIP jet fleet, prompting a scathing intervention from the information commissioner.’]

    We can all see that PM Albanese is addicted to the red carpets and lavish hospitality that the position offers.

    The carbon footprint and the bill for jetting around the globe would be quite something. No wonder it’s a secret.

  27. Q: Ben Elton wrote a comedic novel about climate change published in 1989 – Starks….

    The Greenhouse effect was identified around 1820, and newspapers reported global warming in the 1920s…..and ye in 2023 here we are!

  28. Just regarding C@t I’ve had a quick look to see if she has appeared this morning and it seems she hasn’t. I have a vague (very vague) recollection of her saying recently that she was going away somewhere for a while. Does anyone else remember her saying that or am I just imagining it?

  29. Victoria says:
    Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 9:32 am
    Mostly interested

    The only good thing back in the day when I was young. Was actually being young. Lol

    Cos on every other metric, times were shittier than now. Especially if one was of the female gender.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    My view is slightly different and occasionally say to others ‘ we didn’t realize how good life was 40 years ago’
    I guess it depends on personal circumstances but my view is based on factors like attitude and actions of modern day humans, driving on crowded roads etc.

  30. Where would China, India and Japan be without Australia’s fossil fuel supply and market competition keeping the price affordable.

  31. The ironic reason why China is issuing permits for more coal power in 2022 & 2023 is because in recent years they have suffered a series of devastating countrywide droughts and heatwaves that have simultaneously significantly impacted hydroelectric power generation & led to large spikes in demand due to increased air conditioner usage.
    China does not have access to vast quantities of gas, so it increasingly uses coal for peaking generation instead to fill in the gaps when renewables and hydro can’t fill demand. Many plants sit idle for long periods of time every year.
    It’s also worth remembering that while China issued permits for 50GW of fossil (mostly coal) power to be constructed last year, they also look set to construct approximately 200GW of renewables during 2023, bringing the total share of non-fossil energy generation close to 60% by years end
    Chinas big renewables & EV push isn’t all about sunshine and roses either – its primarily about national security. If you don’t have to worry so much about the US Navy blockading your oil and coal imports anymore, you gain a lot of flexibility to deal with say, a small island nation lying off your coast.

  32. Telstra has axed nearly 500 roles, its first major round of job cuts under chief executive Vicki Brady, with the telco shedding staff across its enterprise unit. The company told affected workers on Wednesday, with most of the 472 affected roles understood to be in the telco’s enterprise workforce.
    The cuts form part of Telstra’s bid to slash $500m in fixed costs under its T25 strategic plan, which was first initiated by former chief executive Andy Penn and has continued under Ms Brady’s stewardship. “I can confirm we have proposed some changes to continue to reshape our business so that we remain competitive, efficient as well as effective in the way we work,” a Telstra spokesman told The Australian.

  33. BW: “The fact is that China is increasing its coal fired capacity at six times the rate of the rest of the world combined.”

    The FACT IS Australians and Americans use more carbon per capita RIGHT NOW than Chinese or Indian people do. In the case of India, it is an order of magnitude greater.

    The FACT IS more of the carbon in our atmosphere RIGHT NOW comes from the west, not China. You don’t get to burn the place down and then complain about other people using matches. I get you hate the chinese BW, but until the west sucks all of the carbon out of the atmosphere that we placed there, we don’t get to complain about other people placing it there. We lead by example, or we lead nothing.

  34. Also emissions per-capita is the relevant metric if you want to talk about which country is worse. Though you’re beating a dead horse there.

  35. USA: A man armed with 1,800 rounds of ammunition, a grenade and other explosives in his car unleashed a “murderous barrage of fire” as he ambushed officers who were investigating a routine crash, killing one and wounding two before a fourth stopped him and thwarted what authorities described as plans for further mayhem, officials said Wednesday.
    Mohamad Barakat, 37, shot Officers Jake Wallin, Andrew Dotas and Tyler Hawes from inside his car on Friday, from about 15 to 20 feet away, before they could even reach for their guns, North Dakota Attorney General Drew Wrigley said at a news conference. Wallin was killed while Dotas and Hawes remain hospitalized in critical condition. Wrigley said Barakat also shot and injured a bystander, who was trying to run away when she was hit twice.

  36. In the face of the coming climate catastrophe, it is unutterably stupid to spend time standing around pointing fingers or waiting for others to act. You do what you can. As fast as you can.

  37. “Bystander says:
    Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 10:56 am
    Just regarding C@t I’ve had a quick look to see if she has appeared this morning and it seems she hasn’t. I have a vague (very vague) recollection of her saying recently that she was going away somewhere for a while. Does anyone else remember her saying that or am I just imagining it?”

    She was going to visit her son in the US but I don’t recall her giving a date for the trip. Anyway, she would have said farewell when leaving.

  38. Any security experts here?

    How can the release of data about use of the RAAF VIP Fleet impact security if it is done after the use of fleet aircraft has occurred?

  39. France and India have signed a defence cooperation agreement. At the risk of triggering some, the agreement involves buying 36 Rafale fighters and more Scorpene (or other?) submarines. The agreement also includes scientific and technological cooperation on other issues including climate change. It can be read here.
    https://mea.gov.in/bilateral-documents.htm?dtl/36806/Horizon_2047_25th_Anniversary_of_the_IndiaFrance_Strategic_Partnership_Towards_A_Century_of_IndiaFrance_Relations

    Strange Naval Group can perform perfectly well for one country (actually four – they have supplied subs to India, Chile, Malaysia and Brazil), yet not good enough in another.

  40. “any suggestion that we can stop the rises to the cash rate at slightly above the long-term average is advocacy for baking in 5-6% CPI going forward.”

    Ahuh, you have met the NAIRU unicorn. What did it say?

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