Courtesy of the Age/Herald, the latest monthly federal voting intention numbers from Resolve Strategic have with Labor down a point to 36%, the Coalition up one to 34%, the Greens up one to 12% and One Nation steady on 5%. As ever, no two-party preferred result is provided, but I make it to be 55-45 to Labor based on 2022 election preferences compared with about 55.5-44.5 last time.
As with last week’s Newspoll, the poll gives Anthony Albanese his first net negative personal rating as prime minister, with approval down four to 40% and disapproval up five to 47%. Peter Dutton is up four to 35% and down one to 44%, with Albanese retaining a 43-28 lead as preferred prime minister, in from 46-25.
The worst news for the government comes once again from the Indigenous Voice, with a forced response question now putting no ahead 57-43, out from 54-46 a month ago. A question allowing for an uncommitted response has no leading 49% to 35%. Combining this month’s results with last month’s to get reasonable sub-samples, no leads 56-44 in New South Wales, 51-49 in Victoria, 61-39 in Queensland and Western Australia and 59-41 in South Australia, with yes leading only in Tasmania by 56-44 off a particularly small sample.
The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1604.
According to Lars it is far far more horrible to call someone a racist than to actually be a racist and implement a racist agenda. Dutton stuff.
Shogunsays:
Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:53 am
Why is it that when I hear “Fair Australia” I think “White Australia”. Too harsh?
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That’s not too harsh because some of them would be white supremacist or neonazis.
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michaelsays:
Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:18 am
Langton called the police and social workers racist a couple of mths back, this is turning into a total disaster. Considering she is one of the co-authors, Albo you need to pull this and right now. Its only going to get more divisive.
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Could michael be one of assistants of Chris Inglis?
The referendum outcome is clouded but what the arguments for and against show is the Liberal/ National Party and Pawleen want to do nothing to close the gap or recognize the history of our first nations people.
If the No case is successfull, Labor should immediately spend billions on remote indigenous housing and health. Employment projects need to be established and if possible, Aboriginal land needs to be included in renewable energy projects.
Based on how little was achieved by the L/NP Government in the last decade, Labor must reverse the decline in all areas of well-being for first nations people that we have witnessed.
Believe nothing that Dutton and his mob promise.
I see Eddie McGuire channelling the buffoon John Elliott, in a rather raucous celebration of Maynards tribunal success.
I doubt the referendum loss will have any long term impact on Albanese or Labor. Sadly it will set reconciliation back a long time.
UK voting intention via @RedfieldWilton , 10 Sep
LAB: 45% (+1)
CON: 25% (-3)
LDEM: 12% (-2)
REF: 6% (-)
GRN: 6% (+2)
Lars, you’re very proficient at lobbing grenades.
davidwh @ #903 Wednesday, September 13th, 2023 – 2:45 pm
Reconciliation and treaty doesn’t have a chance given the corporate/political/media occupiers of power have no interest or will to participate.
Albo/Labor will live or die on cost of living and climate change.
Rex Douglassays:
Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:50 pm
davidwh @ #903 Wednesday, September 13th, 2023 – 2:45 pm
I doubt the referendum loss will have any long term impact on Albanese or Labor. Sadly it will set reconciliation back a long time.
Reconciliation and treaty doesn’t have a chance given the corporate/political/media occupiers of power have no interest or will to participate.
Albo/Labor will live or die on cost of living and climate change.
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The corporates and professional class are supporting the yes campaign but this referendum is failing because the yes campaign hasn’t connected with the electorate.
Mavis
“Lars, you’re very proficient at lobbing grenades.”
He probably learnt that serving in the Culture Wars.
Very true. “Yes” is not failing for a want of cash.
The “No” campaign seems to be more grass roots than a corporate conspiracy. Sure the big right wing mining figures are against it, but the rest of corporate Australia is on the “Yes” side.
So when does Alan Joyce get arrested for fraud & insider trading?
“The “No” campaign seems to be more grass roots than a corporate conspiracy.”
You’re kidding right? The No campaign is entirely built on the far-right IPA, funded by dark money from across the corporate spectrum with the two main campaigners being LNP stooges, all the same people who bought us Robodebt & racist welfare cards. The idea that it’s somehow “grass roots” is ludicrous.
Maybe they’ll roll that into Biden’s impeachment.
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Oakeshott Countrysays:
Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 12:18 pm
Ven @9:05
A nonce is a paedophile so I am not sure who Borewar was exposing but it can also be used for “this particular purpose” which doesn’t really make sense to me.
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No sense to me either. None at all. 🙁
Yes is failing for one main reason. People I have spoken to thought the vote was about constitutional recognition and don’t understand why it became about giving First Nation peoples special constitutional rights not available to other Australians.
Failure to explain this simple issue will see the referendum fail.
Sicko Dutton just started a POO with ‘The truth is…’
He lies routinely.
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B.S. Fairmansays:
Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 1:15 pm
Ven – Why are you surprised that Bloomberg has articles on “the Voice”? It has an Australian political reporter and globally they publish more than 5000 articles a day.
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I don’t care whether Bloomberg has local reporter or not. My point is Bloomberg is a big News organisation and it has international reach. Not that it makes any difference to Australians or not but a lot of international audience will notice that.
Mavis @ Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:49 pm:
“Lars, you’re very proficient at lobbing grenades.”
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Like his hero in the Kremlin, eh? Maybe better, given how the ‘special military operation’ he launched 18 months ago against Country # 15 on the Global Firepower Index is going? 😆
DavidW – I think you hit the nail on the head. The sales job has been appalling bad.
Ven – But you do understand that it is a News service that produces a lot of stories and is supposed to cover events all around the world? The fact they are reporting on what is big news in Australia merely means people can have access to the story. There is approximately 4999 other stories on the website from today as well.
FFS
For the nonce, I had no idea that ‘nonce’ had any other meaning than the way in which Shakespeare used the term.
If someone has appropriated the term for another purpose and that that petty purpose is supposed to transcend Shakespeare, then all I can say is that life is as tedious as a twice-told tale, vexing the dull ear of a drowsy man.
Most of Bloomberg’s audience is the whos who of the global moneyed elite so its probably not seeing the voice referendum as anymore than a domestic issue.
Littleproud did not like Plibersek reminding Australians about the failure of the Coalition to implement the MDB. 94a. Outski.
“Ukraine fired ten cruise missiles at the Sevastopol shipyard, Russia’s defence ministry has said in a post on Telegram, and two ships undergoing repairs were hit and damaged. Three unmanned boats were also involved in the attack, it said.
“Air defence systems shot down seven cruise missiles, and the patrol ship Vasily Bykov destroyed all unmanned boats,” it said.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/sep/13/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-sevastopol-shipyard-fire-crimea-missile-attack-injuries
Anyone who thinks Musk is right about the risk of WW3 if Ukraine attacks Crimea better pack up for their concrete bunker, I think!
Bandt asks Tanya if she will stop approving new coal and gas.
Desperate Tanya resorts to attacking Greens mp’s for owning shares in banks that invest in fossil fuels. Silly stuff.
In QT the Greens did not like Plibersek reminding Australians about the comprehensive suite of housing supply initiatives. They especially did not like being reminded about their NIMBY efforts. The especially, especially did not like being reminded that they made far more approaches to her requesting that windfarm, solar farm and grid improvements be blocked than they do advocating new zero net initiatives. They especially, especially, especially did not like being reminded of the Greens MP who is clearing koala habitat for luxury holiday apartments.,
“Desperate Tanya resorts to attacking Greens mp’s for owning shares in banks that invest in fossil fuels. Silly stuff.”
More “Do as I say, not as I do” from the Greens political party then. Silly how?
Boerwar @ #917 Wednesday, September 13th, 2023 – 3:16 pm
Shakespeare is the original cryptographer. 🙂
Socrates:
Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:56 pm
Mavis
“Lars, you’re very proficient at lobbing grenades.”
[‘He probably learnt that serving in the Culture Wars.’]
Possibly – it having the desired effect thereof.
A lot of people have a very outsize idea of how much people in other countries will notice let alone care about what happens to a domestic referendum in our country.
Just heard on the radio that bookmakers are offering $6.00 for the Yes vote. ($1.10 for the No vote). Not sure which ones though. I had a bit of a look around and none of the majors seem to be taking bets at the moment.
@Rex:
“Bandt asks Tanya if she will stop approving new coal and gas.”
It’s a great use of time to grandstand repeatedly asking the same question you already know the answer to.
Bandt would never stoop to engaging with arguments about why it isn’t happening, he just wants soundbites for low-info young voters to smear Labor with. Captain Grandstand. Left wing Dutton.
“Desperate Tanya resorts to attacking Greens mp’s for owning shares in banks that invest in fossil fuels. Silly stuff.”
Have you never pasted a Labor MP for owning a rental property? Be honest….
Greens MPs are shameless about claiming hypocrisy on the part of various Labor politicians so turnabout is fair play.
There is not a whole lot of loving in this space:
https://citynews.com.au/2023/is-the-labor-greens-coalition-getting-the-shakes/?utm_source=mailpoet&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=canberra-daily-today-s-news-today_7801
@Bystander: All the major bookmakers said at the outset they weren’t going to offer odds on the Voice referendum (the fact that they are all lobbying the government at the moment over the planned restrictions on gambling advertising is probably part of that).
I don’t doubt SOMEONE is offering odds somewhere.
BSF: “The “No” campaign seems to be more grass roots than a corporate conspiracy. Sure the big right wing mining figures are against it, but the rest of corporate Australia is on the “Yes” side.”
And all of the mainstream media (Murdoch, Costello, Stokes & ABC) provides megaphones for the no side without challenge, when they’re not actively platforming racists. Yeah… murdoch is soooo grass roots.
For those interested in technologies which may help the globe, except for China and India, to achieve zero net 50.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202309/1298069.shtml
Boerwar @ #843 Wednesday, September 13th, 2023 – 12:52 pm
That’s right. The problem is not fossil fuels. It is tourism.
Cooker.
Pi – Does that make up for the ABC and SBS coverage? 🙂
But seriously, I do wondering why Today and Sunrise give so much coverage to Hanson.
But it was not like the media in Australia suddenly changed over – they have generally been weak on the questioning of everyone. It could have been predicted and there needed to be a plan to deal with it.
My point on the NO side being more grass roots is the funds that the “NO” campaign has got has probably come from individuals (albeit wealthy individuals) far more than corporations because of fear of reputational damage. Donation disclosure rules do apply in referendums and it will be interesting to see who has been funding who when all is said and done.
https://www.aec.gov.au/referendums/campaign/referendum-disclosure.html
BSF: “My point on the NO side being more grass roots is the funds that the “NO” campaign has got has probably come from individuals”
Because the no campaign is coordinated and amplified by the mainstream media, because they are anti-labor. You’re like a person looking at a tipped over glass next to spilled water, and waxing lyrical “oh where did this water come from?”
Tanya and Labor are clearly denying global boiling.
Player One says:
Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 3:57 pm
Boerwar @ #843 Wednesday, September 13th, 2023 – 12:52 pm
‘Player One says:
Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 9:29 am
Boerwar @ #752 Wednesday, September 13th, 2023 – 8:44 am
P1
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…It simply astonishes me that some people still think this is just a political issue. It is an existential issue.’
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True. If only governments/individuals recognized that tourism is an expensive and selfish luxury that contributes 8% to our existential issue.
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This is the current situation with tourism’s contribution to the existential problems of global warming and the anthropocene extinction event let alone the large scale social injustice of tourists leaving one dwelling empty while they occupy another dwelling.
Homelessness disappeared overnight when governments housed the homeless in tourist accommodation during the Covid crisis.
Air traffic contribution to CO2 emissions collapsed as air traffic collapsed.
And so on and so forth.
Globally, one in ten people fly in any given year. In the US that is over four in ten people fly in any given year. I imagine the Australian percentages would be similar: the world’s wealthier people cooking the planet.
1. Tourism contributes 8% of the globes CO2.
2. Tourism is overwhelmingly carried out by the wealthy elements.
3. Tourism is a massive global waste of dwelling space.
4. Tourism is bad for biodiversity.
5. People use SUVs to engage in tourism.
6. Eco resorts are tourism’s greenwashers.
The brutal attack on Marcia Langton by the racists and idiots is very disturbing.
I noted the other day that that there had been record PLA and PLAN activity in the vicinity of Taiwan but that that this had not been mentioned in official Chinese propaganda outlets.
It has now been officially acknowledged although in a curiously roundabout way… including reporting part of it by way of Japanese announcements of what the Japanese had observed.
Again, there are two interesting silences here. Today’s GT does not relate the activity to the recent passage of US and Canadian navies through the Taiwan Strait. Normally this triggers a shitstorm of aggrieved whinging combined with references to masses of PLA and PLAN monitoring and ‘shooing off’ behaviours.
Nor do the official outlets relate the record naval activity to the recent ‘bad’ behaviour of a certain Taiwanese politician.
OTOH, the official outlets are still silent on the other bit of record behaviour – the number and length of fighter sorties through various ‘lines’ on the map.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202309/1298051.shtml
https://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2023/09/does-losing-mid-term-referendums-help.html
Does Losing Mid-Term Referendums Help Australian Governments To Win The Next Election?
I investigate this claim and find it wanting. Governments that lose referendums normally win the next election because governments normally win the next election anyway.
Perhaps this is why China’s anti-Taiwan democracy nasty and vicious wolf warrior rhetoric has been dialed down?
Time for a spell of Wang faction-initiated ‘Xi really is a nice, trustworthy and kindly uncle who wants to be friends and who admires human rights and is enthralled with representative democracy’?
The most likely context here is the next Taiwanese presidential election in January 2024.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202309/1298053.shtml
‘Kevin Bonham says:
Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 4:17 pm
https://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2023/09/does-losing-mid-term-referendums-help.html
Does Losing Mid-Term Referendums Help Australian Governments To Win The Next Election?
I investigate this claim and find it wanting. Governments that lose referendums normally win the next election because governments normally win the next election anyway.’
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Thank you.
Privatising QANTAS was a terrible mistake.
Essential services should never be privatised.
Just got a crap email from a noreply email addie peddling Jacinta Price’s opinon.
I’[d love to tell them to piss off but being a no reply, they have covered their bases.
Sheer brilliance from NSW Labor…
The NSW government has confirmed popular parking app Park’nPay will be culled in Tuesday’s state budget but FuelCheck will be spared the axe.
This way they will increase State Revenue with more parking fines.. Minns Labor the Liberal government you have when you don’t have a Liberal Gov.