Essential Research 2PP+: Labor 49, Coalition 45 (open thread)

Unsurprising results on federal voting intention and the Indigenous Voice from Essential Research, while RedBridge finds the Coalition making no headway in Victoria.

The latest fortnightly Essential Research poll finds both major parties unchanged on the primary vote, Labor at 31% and the Coalition at 32%, with the Greens down two to 13%, One Nation up one to 8% and 6% undecided. The pollster’s 2PP+ measure has Labor down two to 49% and the Coalition up two to 45% – the narrowest result this term – with undecided likewise at 6%. A result on the Indigenous Voice maintains the remorseless trend, with no up three to 51% (hard no up one to 42%, soft no up one to 8%) and and yes down one to 41% (hard yes down two to 28%, soft yes steady at 12%).

Regarding the government’s latest package of workplace laws, the poll finds 79% are in favour of criminalising wage theft, with only 6% opposed; 66% support “closing loopholes so that employers can’t use labour hire workers to undercut full time workers”, with 12% opposed; and 54% support “ensure that gig workers who work through digital platforms have minimum rights and entitlements”, with 15% opposed. Forty-nine per cent favoured “businesses maximising profits for shareholders” as the cause of rising living costs over 32% for the alternative cause of wage and salary increases for workers, and 42% felt workplace power tilted too much in favour of employers compared with 12% for workers. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1135.

Also doing the rounds is a Victorian state poll from RedBridge Group that shows primary vote shares much as they were at the November election, with Labor on 37%, the Coalition on 34% and the Greens on 13% (36.7%, 34.5% and 11.5% respectively at the election). However, Labor is credited with a wider two-party preferred lead of 56.5-43.5, compared with 55.0-45.0 at the election. The poll was conducted August 31 to September 14 from a substantial sample of 3001, allowing for credible breakdowns by gender, age, region, education, income and home ownership in the pollster’s report.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Re kamahl. If there’s nothing on the ev guys platform I’d be surprised.
    I no longer have an account.
    Alternatively, you could watch the repeat of the Project later and see what I saw live.

  2. Aqualung, last page:

    Kamahl repeating lies from the no campaign.
    $40b for indigenous affairs.
    Project fact check live. $4b.
    Kamahl doubles down. “We’ll split the difference”
    Hamish was very restrained.
    GFY camel

    “Camel”, huh? That reminds me of those little hand-drawn cartoons Plucka Duck (I think?) would stick in front of the camera on Hey Hey It’s Saturday, while Kamahl was getting interviewed by Daryl Somers. One had him drawn with humps, caption: “Camahl”. Even primary school-aged me thought that was a bit dodgy. It’d be outrageous now.

    And here you go, with that kind of abuse in the name of the “Yes” vote. What’s next, calling Jacinta Price a “coconut”?

  3. You know how there is TLDR – Too long Didn’t read
    Well I have – SMDW- Sixty Minutes Didn’t watch.

    So now I have to read the SMH to find out.

  4. I can’t figure out who’s behind the defenestration of Mike Pezzulo?

    * George Brandis, with a dish of revenge served bitterly cold? Plus the rest of the Moderates in the Liberal Party who’ve had enough of the Conservatives thinking they are running the show, so they are exposing them as puppets of Pezzulo? I mean, what does it say about Dutton, as Home Affairs Minister, that he let Pezzulo run rampant while he was in the chair as his Minister?

    * Or is this a cunning plan by the Labor government to get rid of another Public Service Department Secretary, without having to unsheath a long knife?

  5. Kevin Bonham @kevinbonham · 1m

    There is a #Newspoll tonight, sounds like Voice is down further and both leaders may be down, awaiting details

  6. 54-46, says Ghost.

    ETA: #Newspoll Albanese: Approve 47 (+1) Disapprove 44 (-3) #auspol

    #Newspoll Dutton: Approve 32 (-6) Disapprove 52 (+3) #auspol

    #Newspoll Preferred PM: Albanese 50 (0) Dutton 30 (-1) #auspol

  7. GhostWhoVotes
    @GhostWhoVotes
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    1m
    #Newspoll Federal 2 Party Preferred: ALP 54 (+1) L/NP 46 (-1) #auspol

    #Newspoll Federal Primary Votes: ALP 36 (+1) L/NP 36 (-1) GRN 11 (-2) ON 6 (-1) #auspol

  8. B.S. Fairman @ #1568 Sunday, September 24th, 2023 – 9:36 pm

    GhostWhoVotes
    @GhostWhoVotes
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    1m
    #Newspoll Federal 2 Party Preferred: ALP 54 (+1) L/NP 46 (-1) #auspol

    #Newspoll Federal Primary Votes: ALP 36 (+1) L/NP 36 (-1) GRN 11 (-2) ON 6 (-1) #auspol

    Lars Von Trier will be bitterly disappointed. He’s tried so hard this week to diminish the Prime Minister and his government. He almost had Albanese’s bags packed!

  9. So, whatever the Voice is doing poll-wise, its having no impact on the 2PP.

    Cant say I’m surprised: i think some on the Right are having a feverish delusion that Dutton’s unedifying spoiler act on Indigenous rights will get him in the game.

    Prepare for deep, lasting, disappointment is my advice….

  10. I seem to recall a kamahl song, “100 children”.
    Could have been Nana Mouskori though, similar sort of mien.
    As for pezzullo, he has to go, I hope the relevant minister sends him on his way.

  11. Victoria @ #1573 Sunday, September 24th, 2023 – 9:38 pm

    C@ t

    The leaked text messages were between Pezzullo and Briggs.

    Who else would have access to them?

    On 60 Minutes it was stated that they were obtained legally by a person.

    I can only think that someone who knows their way around the system, so as to gain access to encrypted messages, would have been the one. Julie Bishop? George Brandis? Marise Payne? The Home Affairs Minister?

  12. Victoriasays:
    Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 9:38 pm
    C@ t

    The leaked text messages were between Pezzullo and Briggs.

    Who else would have access to them?
    _______________
    They did say something about a 3rd party who was sent the texts.

  13. The primary reason the full-court press from the Lib/Nats on this was to set this up as a political fail for Labor/Albo.

    This was always going to be a high-risk approach.

  14. President Joe Biden is struggling to connect with Americans across a variety of critical issues as former President Donald Trump enjoys a commanding 10-point lead over his anticipated rival for the White House in 2024, polling released Sunday shows.

    A Washington Post-ABC News poll reveals Democrat Biden lacking engagement with a skeptical public, with dissatisfaction growing over his handling of the economy and immigration, a rising share saying the U.S. is doing too much to aid Ukraine in its war with Russia and broad concerns about his age as he seeks a second term.

    Overall Biden’s job approval rating is sunk 19 points underwater while his ratings for handling the economy and immigration stand at career lows.

    The numbers also show Biden trailing his ascendant Republican predecessor and likely future opponent by 10 percentage points at this early stage in the election cycle – well beyond the margin of error for the survey.

    Biden’s overall approval stands at 37 percent, about where it was in May but lower than in February when it was 42 percent. The Post-ABC poll finds 56 percent of Americans disapproving of Biden, a figure aligning with other recent polls, the Post reveals in its own report on the results.

    2024 GE: ABC/WP POLL (A)

    (R) Trump 52% (+10)
    (D) Biden 42%

    Independents
    (R) Trump 52% (+13)
    (D) Biden 39%

  15. Lefty_e @ #1572 Sunday, September 24th, 2023 – 9:38 pm

    So, whatever the Voice is doing poll-wise, its having no impact on the 2PP.

    Cant say I’m surprised: i think some on the Right are having a feverish delusion that Dutton’s unedifying spoiler act on Indigenous rights will get him in the game.

    Prepare for deep, lasting, disappointment is my advice….

    I had detected hubris creeping into Dutton’s mien of late. He thought he had the PM’s measure. He obviously fed Murpharoo her lines for this weekend’s column about the PM. However, as Anthony Albanese says, “People have always underestimated me.”

  16. There’s a school of thought out there that Australians dont like the divisiveness and heat of the Voice debate.

    If so, Dutton will fare much worse than Albanese in the wash up. I think we’re seeing clear signs of that already.

  17. I’ve always said consistently Dutton would be gone post voice. Looks on track.

    I’d expect Albo would also wear fallout – based on tonight’s poll maybe not. Stealth distancing – not my ref , it’s Noel’s et al May work. We’ll see .

  18. The impact of the Voice going down on politics in general will be subtle.
    Dutton will reinforced in his position as leader (not that I thought there was anyone else to take the baton before the next election).
    Equally I think Littleproud might be a little safer from a return of the Beetrooter.
    The Liberal party will be able to say to their faithful “Look we can compete, please fund us”.
    Albo will have lost some skin but it will only be a flesh wound.

  19. This tells me the following: Pezzullo is finished and will be sacked by the government or forced to quit, the Voice is finished and Albanese should stop expending political capital on it, and the government can win the next election by focusing on bread and butter Labor issues.

  20. I think it’s Peter Dutton who needs to do a reshuffle after the referendum. First by resigning as LOTO, himself. Losing 6 on Approval is not nothing. The Australian people don’t like thuggish political leaders. Oh, and they don’t like nuclear energy shoved down their throats either.

  21. But at the same time, the defeat of Referendum will make Dutts a hero amongst his own kind* and they are the ones who choose the leader.

    * Troglodytes

  22. Biden is ahead on most reputable polls atm, given Trump will probably be convicted before the election, this would suggest Biden will be re-elected.

  23. And after the No vote wins handsomely on Oct 14, Albo should go for a minor reshuffle – send Linda Burney, Catherine King and Stephen Jones to the backbench, promote Murray Watt to indigenous affairs, give the gig of Assistant Treasurer to Andrew Charlton.

  24. Catmomma – I know. There’s been some very deluded Right wingers around imagining people like “small nuclear reactors”

    Yea, until you tell them where it is. Then support goes to ZERO and you lose every election from here to Armageddon.

  25. Sad to see the Voice still struggling in the polls.
    But I’m glad to see Albo and Labor’s support is strong.

    As it should be. Albo was faithful to his word in holding the Voice referendum. Win or lose he has nothing to apologise for.

    Whereas Dutton has doubled down on lying attack dog.

  26. Personally I think some No voters understand that Albanese heart is in the right place even though they have an issue with the Voice being in the Constitution. Also can see that Dutton is all about politics.
    Having said that there will be a wide range of views affecting No voters. Certainly not all are due to racist sentiment. Really to complex to generalise.

  27. Looks like Australia is zombie-walking after that Pied Piper of the Undead, Peter Dutton, towards regressive knee-jerk surrender to base fear over the Voice.

    It also looks like Australia is hardening in its anger towards Dutton for zombie-whispering them that way.

  28. Ashasays:
    Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 9:39 pm
    Lefty_e:

    So, whatever the Voice is doing poll-wise, its having no impact on the 2PP.

    And vice versa.

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