Polls: Essential, Morgan and ANU Indigenous Voice survey (open thread)

Two new voting intention polls have Labor keeping its nose in front, while the Australian National University unveils an extensive post-referendum survey on the Indigenous Voice.

Essential Research’s fortnightly poll records little change on federal voting intention, with the Coalition steady on 34%, Labor down one to 31%, the Greens up one to 13%, One Nation steady on 7% and the undecided component up one to 6%. The pollster’s 2PP+ reading has the Coalition as close as it has been this term to taking the lead, with Labor down a point to 48% and the Coalition steady on 47%, the remaining 6% being in the undecided category. Monthly leadership ratings have Anthony Albanese in net negative territory for the first time since the election, his approval down four to 42% and disapproval up four to 47%. Peter Dutton is up three on approval to 39% and down one on disapproval to 42%.

A monthly “national mood” reading records a deterioriation after five months of stability, with 51% now rating the country on the wrong track (up three) compared with 30% for the right track (down four). The Coalition is credited with an edge as best party to manage the economy (33% to Labor’s 25%), reduce cost of living pressures (28% to 25%) and keep prices down (ditto), though Labor leads 37% to 19% on supporting higher wages. Forty-four per cent consider social and economic equality is decreasing (one would more naturally say inequality was increasing), with only 16% holding the opposite view. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1151.

Also out yesterday was the weekly Roy Morgan poll, one of Labor’s better recent results with a two-party lead of 52.5-47.5, reversing a Coalition lead of 50.5-49.5 last week. The primary votes are Labor 32% (up two-and-a-half), Coalition 35% (down two-and-a-half), Greens 13.5% (steady) and One Nation 5% (down one-and-a-half). The poll was conducted last Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1379. The Australian also published further results yesterday from the recent Newspoll showing only 16% consider themselves better off than they were two years ago, compared with 50% for worse off. The 18-to-34 cohort offered the most favourable response, with 29% for better off and 37% for worse off.

The Australian National University’s Centre for Social Research and Methods also treats us to a 93-page report on the October 14 Indigenous Voice referendum, based on a survey of 4219 respondents from October 17 to 29. I haven’t absorbed this one yet, but the report is here.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

778 comments on “Polls: Essential, Morgan and ANU Indigenous Voice survey (open thread)”

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  1. FUBAR says:
    Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 8:03 pm

    Fukushima was so bad for Japan that they have restarted 9 reactors and in the process to restart another 16 reactors that were previously mothballed. Terrible. Apparently.’
    —————————-
    Dutton’s Darlings are too stupid to realize that the first assumption to be tested about anything at all that comes from Dutton’s mouth is ‘What is Dutton lying about this time?’ Some of Dutton’s Devotees are too stupid to realize that Dutton is lying about nuclear stations. Think ‘Fuckyoushima’.

  2. Player One says:
    Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 3:05 pm
    Rex Douglas @ #580 Thursday, November 30th, 2023 – 2:46 pm

    Not surprising to see Labor is on track to miss their 2030 emissions target.
    But they promised …

    Primarily due to increase emissions from motor vehicles.. P1 & Rex, please confirm you drive EVs recharged off renewables.. Cheers

  3. AFR: China has launched a review into tariffs on Australian wine in what is expected to lead to the removal of the last major trade sanctions against exports following Anthony Albanese’s visit to Beijing.
    China’s Commerce Ministry said on Thursday a review of anti-dumping and countervailing tariffs on Australian wine would start immediately, according to state media reports. “The Ministry of Commerce will carry out a review in accordance with the law to fully protect the rights of all stakeholders,” Shu Jueting, a commerce ministry spokesperson, told a regular news conference in Beijing, according to Reuters. The ministry said comments should be submitted in writing within 20 days. China said in October it would review the tariffs but had not given a timeframe for when that process would begin. That commitment cleared the way for Mr Albanese’s visit to Beijing for talks with Xi Jinping.

  4. Emily, I get your point but Grace Tame is a strong advocate for not “hiding in shame” over sexual abuse for the very simple reason that the victim never has anything to be ashamed about.

    Of course, different victims will react differently but having seen Tame and Higgins together at the National Press Club I think Higgins is of that view and is “happy” to tell all to anyone.

    All strength to her.

  5. We now have a usable metric – Making Xi uncomfortable about injuring our sailors is worth less than the potential value of wine exports to China.

    I knew the Chicomms would love the ALP – always easier dealing with useful idiots.

  6. Ven @ Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 8:13 pm:
    ======================

    Ven, you are right to draw attention also to disparities in per capita CO2 emissions, as it tells is directly which nationalities of human beings are most polluting individually rather than collectively. Listed this way, the ‘Hall of Shame’ among the top 17 CO2-emitting countries are (in t CO2 per capita in 2022):

    1. Saudi Arabia: 17.0
    2. Canada: 15.2
    3. Australia: 15.1
    4. USA: 14.4
    5. Russia: 13.3
    6. South Korea: 12.3
    7. China: 8.9
    8. Japan: 8.6
    9. Germany: 8.2
    10. Iran: 8.1

    Notice that Russia is an offender by both measures: worsening badly off an already high per capita level. Saudi Arabia is not much better, standing still on the highest per capita base out of the ‘big 17’. China also has a substantial per capita level of emissions, and is getting worse into the bargain. At least Canada, Australia and the USA improved over 2017-2022.

    But I think per capita emissions only get us so far as a guide to what the planet needs to do to get CO2 emissions down. The sheer scale of worsening emissions out of China, India, Indonesia and Russia over 2017-2022 dwarfed any level of emissions reductions that the English-speaking world (say) could have possibly accomplished even with the utmost zeal in the world.

    Total increase in annual CO2 emissions by China/India/Russia/Indonesia: 2,228,929
    Total CO2 emissions by Australia/NZ/Canada/UK/Ireland/USA in 2022: 6,239,779

    That is, the English-speaking world would need to cut its 2022 level of CO2 emissions by over 35% overall to offset the annual increase in CO2 emissions by the other four countries I’ve mentioned here.

  7. FUBAR@6.49 om

    This misrepresents what happened at Fukushima.

    We wouldn’t be using that design. We do not have the tidal wave threat. Nor do we have the earthquake threat that exists in Japan.

    The outcomes from Fukushima is actually a good news story. The facility survived an event magnitudes larger than it was designed for. Quite remarkable. Only one directly attributed death and no observed trend in indirect deaths.

    Nuclear power remains one of the safest forms of energy production in the world. Even renewables are more deadly.

    Are you Ziggy Zwitkowski?

    One of my strong memories of Fukushima was, while those of us who actually did understand physics tried to work out the scientific and technological implications, Ziggy was on the media – ABC and everywhere else, within 48 hours, declaiming that “the left are going to use this incident to shut down the acquisition of nuclear power by Australia!!!”

    At the time I thought “you may be correct”, but can we at least take a deep breath and try to understand what happened in Fukushima before we decide how to proceed?

    Also,

    Only one directly attributed death and no observed trend in indirect deaths.

    can you give a reference to justify this statement?

  8. Per capita emissions are unscientific guff. The atmosphere does not care the per capita rate a molecule was emitted at.

    They only matter if you are using the politics of climate change to change the socioeconomic order.

  9. See FUBAR has trotted out the stale and discredited argument that by parents paying to send children to non-government schools “saves” the government/taxpayer money.
    This argument would have some merit if the total cost of non-government education were in fact paid by parents, whereas the reality is 6 in 10 dollars of non-government school’s operating costs are picked up by the taxpayer.
    I am a supporter of private education as long as the parents pay the full cost….Go for it…..
    And before FUBAR throws the oft-canted point about “the government system could not cope if there were no private schools”, let’s see if the bluff can called.
    The money handed out to the likes of Kings School to pay for a swimming pool for the Head Master (likely to be diverted from the genuine running costs of such a school), would be better used and more properly used where it is needed most – and this is not in the Plutocracy of such schools as KS.
    As a Sandgroper, FUBAR will know that Guildford Grammar sits on some 40 hectares of prime Perth real estate with maybe 500-700 kids at the school. Meanwhile, Governor Stirling SHS -right next door to Guildford Gramma – has 4 hectares for 1400 kids. About sums up the “fairness and equity” in the current funding for government versus those “cost saving” private schools FUBAR is a fan of.
    No surprise it was Menzies – gold plated Liberal – who started the rot those many years ago with money to non-government schools for Science Blocks.
    This was a political pay off to the likes of the Catholic Church at the time for its support of the DLP and thus keeping Labor out of office for years.
    I hasten to add the Gough Whitlam also saw it was a good idea to support the non-government system with money – but in those days – not now – the non-government system – especially the Catholic schools were under-funded.

  10. The best argument for Lerhmann is that Higgins made up the rape story in order to keep her job. Support for this is, from the xxn, said to come from the fact that Higgins didn’t see a doctor, lying to police and misleading Fiona brown.

    The simple answer to this argument is, if we assume Higgins made up the rape story to explain her presence in the minister’s office, why didn’t she go and see a doctor to support the sham? Also, having made up the story and kept her job, why did she go to the trouble of pursuing the prosecution to trial? She could easily have said, as she apparently did for the retrial, that she could not face xxn etc.

    The interesting question of Lehrmann is why having taken Higgins to Parliament House, why didn’t he take her home as originally intended? His departure without her is inexplicable to me, unless there had been some sort of dispute, for which, apart from the rape allegation there is no evidence.

  11. D & M

    “ can you give a reference to justify this statement?”

    Yes

    https://www.britannica.com/event/Fukushima-accident

    “ In 2018, the Japanese government reported thatone worker has since died from lung cancer as a result of radiation exposure from the event.

    Over the last decade, many studies have assessed whether there has been any increased cancer risk for local populations. There appears to be no increased risk of cancer or other radiation-related health impacts.”

    https://ourworldindata.org/what-was-the-death-toll-from-chernobyl-and-fukushima

  12. What is Dutton Darling’s lie for today?
    Fukushima, nothing to see here, move on, move on?
    An old’un but a good’un.
    If you are brain dead enough believe Dutton on anything at all.

  13. It is actually impossible to name the full costs of Fukushima because they are open-ended. Not just a little bit open-ended but massively open-ended.

    Estimates are now in the plus $US2oo billion mark. That is just for the clean up. It does not factor in the other nuclear power stations that were shut. The smashing impact on the local and regional economies, the smashing impact on local fisheries and the, now, the impact on neighbouring states as Japan starts decanting contaminated water into the Pacific.

    This is the sort of thing that Dutton is promising for Australia’s regional cities. Anyone who says it won’t happen is basically doing a cross fingers barley charley type kiddy stuff with people’s economic future.

  14. By FUBAR logic, everyone in the pool should just keep on pissing into it. I mean it’s so inconvenient to get out of the pool and piss in the toilet, which is part of an artifical process to keep piss out of the poolwater, why bother with that and instead just keep on pissing in the pool? It’s not like it’s going to change the poolwater anyway, there’s so much of it compared to one human bladder, in fact with the exponentially increasing population let’s just keep on pissing in the pool and assume nothing changes.

  15. No company is going to build a nuclear reactor in Australia. The economics are all against it. Perhaps Dutton will argue that the government should get into electricity generation. That would be something.

  16. Tricot

    The fact is that the total of Federal and State Government money per student spent in Private schools is far less than that spent per student in Government schools. And that doesn’t take into account the assets invested in the private schools.

    Why shouldn’t parents, who pay taxes often at a greater rate and quantum than other taxpayers and get less education spending on their child, be allowed to fund additional resources for the schools that they send their kids too?

    Do you hate people who drive luxury cars? Fly up the front of the plane?

  17. nath

    It already is through Snowy Hydro.

    Victoria are and in WA that’s basically what is happening with the support of the broke coal mine and generators.


  18. Macarthursays:
    Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 8:57 pm
    Ven, another interesting couple of facts:

    Percentage of world population living in China, 2022: 17.9%
    https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/

    Percentage of world CO2 emissions coming from China, 2022: 32.9%
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions

    MacArthur
    Those figures tell How China became 2nd largest economy in the world within 20 years and increased its CO2 emissions tremendously.

    The West transferred a lot of their industries to China in last 30 years because it was very cheap, atleast till a decade ago, to manufacture in China and sell them them all over the world especially in West for great margins of profit.
    Why do you think the multi-nationals were making big profits? One of the reasons was that They were able to reduce their labour cost substantially.
    It generated a lot of employment in China and created a large middle class, who started emitting large amounts of CO2.

    Hypocritical people like FUBAR now take issue with wine exports. But it was actually under Howard, Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison governments Australia sold a lot of raw materials from mining and farming sector and tremendously increased the profits of these sectors.
    How people like FUBAR lie straight in bed I don’t know. I want learn that.

    Similarly, Europe bought a lot of fossil fuels From Russia for their growth and keep their Cost of Living under control.
    Now we know that once Russian fossil fuels are cut off due to sanctions, Europe cost of living has increased a lot.

  19. Windover posted

    The interesting question of Lehrmann is why having taken Higgins to Parliament House, why didn’t he take her home as originally intended? His departure without her is inexplicable to me, unless there had been some sort of dispute, for which, apart from the rape allegation there is no evidence.

    One question that has always puzzled me is – why didn’t Brittany dress herself after Lehrmann had departed instead of being found nude the next day.

  20. kirs

    You want to give me some scientific numbers on that? A 1/10,000th increase in the concentration of pee in pool water over a century isn’t probably going to make much difference.

  21. Ven,

    How am I hypocritical?

    You don’t like me highlighting the decision made by kowtowbo to not upset President Xi by raising the incident?

  22. Bystander @ #724 Thursday, November 30th, 2023 – 9:23 pm

    Windover posted

    The interesting question of Lehrmann is why having taken Higgins to Parliament House, why didn’t he take her home as originally intended? His departure without her is inexplicable to me, unless there had been some sort of dispute, for which, apart from the rape allegation there is no evidence.

    One question that has always puzzled me is – why didn’t Brittany dress herself after Lehrmann had departed instead of being found nude the next day.

    She was extremely drunk, and collapsed. She was found asleep by a security person, but left there until she woke of her own accord with a fierce hangover.

  23. FUBAR…
    I don’t “hate” anyone on this topic at all.
    And seeing your raised the, again, old chestnut about freedom of choice, you have totally ignored why well-off parents should have the full cost of private education defrayed by the state.
    I do not own a boat, but some of my taxes are used to pay for mooring at Rottnest. Why should I support that, but I do.
    Supporting mainly well-off parents with state funds for already rich schools is akin to providing a subsidy to someone who owns a BMW and drives to town rather than use public transport AND expect taxpayer support to do so….
    I will call the bluff, which no politician is willing to do and will never happen, and it is this……..
    Let’s withdraw government funding from well-off parents and well-off institutions and redirect these funds to the state system. The funds so freed would make significant improvements to the whole education system, not just to the 30% or so who are fortunate enough to have well-off parents (by and large) and attend -mainly “tax free” charity churches who run many of these schools.
    Nowhere else in the so-called developed world, is the education system so tilted in favour of the those who chose to send their kids to non-government schools.
    By all means lets have a healthy private system but not one MY taxes go to support kids (my kids have left school) who attend these schools….Let mum and dad pay the full whack……..

  24. Boring war

    “ The smashing impact on the local and regional economies, the smashing impact on local fisheries and the, now, the impact on neighbouring states as Japan starts decanting contaminated water into the Pacific”

    Oh FFS – how about some rational science

    “ The IAEA, which has a permanent office at Fukushima, said an “independent, on-site analysis” had shown that the tritium concentration in the water discharged was “far below the operational limit of 1,500 becquerels per litre (Bq/L)”.

    That limit is six times less than the World Health Organization’s limit for drinking water, which is at 10,000 Bq/L, a measure of radioactivity.”

    .

  25. Sceptic @ #702 Thursday, November 30th, 2023 – 8:19 pm

    Player One says:
    Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 3:05 pm
    Rex Douglas @ #580 Thursday, November 30th, 2023 – 2:46 pm

    Not surprising to see Labor is on track to miss their 2030 emissions target.
    But they promised …

    Primarily due to increase emissions from motor vehicles.. P1 & Rex, please confirm you drive EVs recharged off renewables.. Cheers

    I can confirm this. You?

  26. @FUBAR

    I honestly think I have a better chance of teaching my cat how to play Cribbage than get it through to you that climate change is happening and it doesn’t care about your whataboutisms and alternative facts. It’s pointless.

  27. Actually FUBAR, as I have noted from long past experience, arguing the toss with you is a complete waste of time. Your parade-ground mentality and your glue-like adherence to conservative ideology is beyond my comprehension……

  28. EUROZONE CPI Month change ACTUAL -0.5 (FORECAST -0.2, PREVIOUS – 0.0)

    Inflation in the eurozone has fallen far more than expected to 2.4 per cent in November, the slowest annual pace since July 2021, providing some relief to consumers and fuelling hopes that interest rates could soon be cut.

  29. ”You want to give me some scientific numbers on that? A 1/10,000th increase in the concentration of pee in pool water over a century isn’t probably going to make much difference.”

    The concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere in pre-industrial times was about 270 parts per million (about 1 part in 3700). That level had fluctuated over the eons but hasn’t changed much since humans walked the Earth until the last couple of centuries.

    One part in 3700 doesn’t sound like much but it means that the Earth is about 30° warmer than it would otherwise be. A bit of greenhouse effect is indeed a good thing.

    The concentration is now about 400 ppm, about 1/2500, a 50% increase. Deniers apparently don’t think that’s a problem. Those who know about this stuff beg to differ.

  30. Andrew_Earlwood says:
    Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 9:09 pm
    “ Weak Andy – lacking the courage to do what zoomster could do.”

    _______

    Are you coming to the winery on Sunday, or not?

    ________

    Almost tempted to wag my work trip to attend, should this occur 🙂

  31. In the late 70s Charles Court’s government was talking up nuclear power for WA
    They had even named the site north of Perth where the reactor would be built and a local uranium mining industry was also in the pipeline
    The election of Brian Burke’s government in 1983 put an end to all that.
    Ironically the coastal area around where the nuclear plant was to be built is now home to some big wind farms.

  32. ‘rational science’ is code for that crap the Geologist, Ian Plimer, came up with to explain away Climate Change and Global Heating. Only numpties who want to believe it, Climate Change, isn’t real, agree with it.

  33. C@tmomma says:
    Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 9:58 pm
    Griff,
    Can you delay by a day?

    __________

    Sadly not. Flying out Saturday. But I shall make sure to raise a glass of tea at breakfast in India!


  34. FUBARsays:
    Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 9:29 pm
    Ven,

    How am I hypocritical?

    You don’t like me highlighting the decision made by kowtowbo to not upset President Xi by raising the incident?

    Nobody kowtowed better to Chinese dictatorship than Tories governments in AUKUS countries.

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