Polls: RedBridge, Morgan and more Newspoll, plus NT leadership change (open thread)

One poll with Labor ahead, the other with a tie, further numbers from Newspoll on the leaders’ traits, and a vacancy in the top job at the Top End.

Roy Morgan might plough on this week with a poll to be dropped next Wednesday or so, but what follows are most likely the last items of polling we will see for the year. The Australian traditionally drops aggregated Newspoll breakdowns in the dead zone after Christmas, but it will only have three polls to aggregate from on this occasion, unless it supplements them somehow.

RedBridge Group has a federal poll showing Labor leading 52.8-47.2 (in from 53.5-46.5 in the last such poll in early November), though seemingly all reportage of the poll has painted it as disastrous for Labor because the small sample of respondents with trades qualifications has the Coalition ahead. The primary votes are Labor 33% (down one), Coalition 35% (steady) and Greens 13% (down one). The accompanying report includes extensive further questions on national direction, issue salience and immigration. The poll was conducted December 6 to 11 from an unusually large sample of 2010.

• The latest weekly poll from Roy Morgan has a tie on two-party preferred, erasing Labor’s 51-49 lead over the previous two weeks. The primary votes are Labor 32% (up one-and-a-half), Coalition 38% (up one), Greens 11.5% (down two-and-a-half) and One Nation 4.5% (down half). The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1720.

• The Australian had further results from Newspoll on the leaders’ character traits, which it published in a comprehensive display showing earlier numbers for the results going back to 2008 which is worth seeking out if you’re interested in this sort of thing. Anthony Albanese had higher ratings for trustworthy (49% to 41%), in touch (46% to 41%), caring (61% to 45%), likeable (57% to 39%) and having a vision for Australia (59% to 55%), and was less likely to be seen as arrogant (45% to 57%). Peter Dutton led on experienced (70% to 66%), decisive and strong (58% to 48%) and understanding the major issues (57% to 54%).

• Northern Territory Chief Minister Natasha Fyles resigned yesterday after nineteen months in the job, amid revelations she had failed to declare a conflict of interest relating to shares in mining company South 32. It presumably didn’t help that a RedBridge Group poll, conducted in the middle of last month from a sample of 601, had Labor trailing the Country Liberals by 40.6% to 19.7% (although the poll found Labor doing little better federally, and its age breakdowns included the implausible finding that the gap was 40% to 11% among the 18-to-39 age cohort). Names mentioned as possible contenders are her deputy, Nicole Manison, Infrastructure Minister Joel Bowden and Attorney-General Chansey Paech.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Grounded flight with 300 Indians takes off from France, to reach Mumbai tomorrow

    The A-340 aircraft was headed to Nicaragua but was grounded last week by authorities at the Vatry airport in France over suspicions of human trafficking.
    (The flight’s initial departure was from Dubai)

    https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/indians-struck-in-france-suspected-human-trafficking-plane-land-in-mumbai-airport-tuesday-2480281-2023-12-25?utm_source=directhp&utm_medium=clicktopstories&utm_campaign=hptopstories

  2. Holdenhillbilly @ #1344 Tuesday, December 26th, 2023 – 7:27 am

    The Lincoln Project has released an ad targeting former President Trump and seeking to take advantage of the social media furor over #TrumpSmells hashtag. Accompanied with a post saying “Is that you Donald?” and the #TrumpSmells hashtag, the ad was posted to X, formerly Twitter, by the anti-Trump organization Saturday. The 40-second ad features a series of notoriously foul-smelling scenes, including garbage dumps, animal feces, dirty diapers and moldy cheese, mocking Trump, the front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination in 2024. The ad, titled “Limburger,” was released by the political advocacy group started primarily by Republicans aimed at defeating Trump in his bid for the White House.
    The depictions are set to an audio track of a person sniffing and coughing at the smells. At one point, as the camera showed the front of Trump Tower in New York, a deep voice said, “claiming the former president smells bad.” The voice of comedian Kathy Griffith then is heard saying, “The Donald has a distinct smell. It’s like, body odor, with kind of like a scented make-up product.” At the end of the ad, a generic female voice sniffs, coughs, and grimaces, before asking, “Donald, is that you?” as flies are heard buzzing in the background.

    It could be the adult diapers. 😐

  3. Indian Navy deploys 3 warships in Arabian Sea after attack on merchant ship

    The Navy’s explosive ordnance disposal team also inspected the merchant vessel after it reached the Mumbai port, two days after it was hit by a drone off India’s west coast in the Arabian Sea.

    https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/indian-navy-merchant-ship-drone-attack-indians-mumbai-port-2480389-2023-12-25?utm_source=directhp&utm_medium=clicktopstories&utm_campaign=hptopstories

    “The Indian Navy’s explosive ordnance disposal team on Monday carried out a detailed inspection of merchant vessel MV Chem Pluto on its arrival at Mumbai harbour, two days after the ship was hit by a drone off India’s west coast in the Arabian Sea when it was on its way to New Mangalore port.

    In view of spate of attacks on commercial vessels in the Arabian Sea, the Navy deployed P-8I long-range patrol aircraft for surveillance, and warships INS Mormugao, INS Kochi and INS Kolkata in the region to maintain “deterrent presence”, officials said.

    Saturday’s drone attack on Liberian-flagged MV Chem Pluto came amid increasing concerns over various commercial vessels being targeted reportedly by Iran-backed Houthi militants in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden amid the Israel-Hamas conflict.

    The Liberian-flagged vessel with 21 Indian and one Vietnamese crew, anchored at outer anchorage off Mumbai at 3:30 pm.

  4. I’ve just been to the JB Hi Fi Boxing Day Sale and I only had one thought, ‘Financial crisis, what financial crisis!?!’ People were walking out of there, left, right and centre, with all manner of electrical and electronic goods. And that was just in the first hour of the sale. It’ll probably slow down but still. No wallets snapped shut here.

  5. A-E, Socrates, BW, Steelydan

    US &UK have deployed their warships to warn Venezuela off any military actions.
    You probably know that Guyana is the only English speaking country in South America and commonwealth nation

    My query: if 2 of the 3 AUKUS countries deployed/ deploying their warships near Guyana, don’t you think Australia should deploy a warship in solidarity with AUKUS alliance? Why is Australian MSM not demanding Albanese to do so?

    US
    https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/12/07/us-military-exercises-guyana/

    UK
    https://maritime-executive.com/article/royal-navy-sends-warship-to-guyana-as-border-tensions-rise

    Guyana President about US Military base in Guyana
    https://tass-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/tass.com/world/1720325/amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17035451128992&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Ftass.com%2Fworld%2F1720325


  6. C@tmommasays:
    Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:50 am
    I’ve just been to the JB Hi Fi Boxing Day Sale and I only had one thought, ‘Financial crisis, what financial crisis!?!’ People were walking out of there, left, right and centre, with all manner of electrical and electronic goods. And that was just in the first hour of the sale. It’ll probably slow down but still. No wallets snapped shut here.

    C@tmomma
    And this is in Central coast?
    Also, what are the items that are on mouth watering sale?

  7. Jonathan V Last/The Bulwark:

    2024 Is Democracy’s Moonshot

    Like it or not, a crisis is coming. But we are facing it on good ground.

    Just objectively speaking, the forces of stability are actually in a strong position.

    The pandemic is over. I don’t think we appreciate this enough. COVID was so traumatic that we’ve memory-holed how unstable and deadly a place America was in four years ago.

    The economy is strong. Forget the attitude surveys. If you were handed reams of economic data you would come to two rock-solid conclusions:

    (1) The American economy is in a good place: Low unemployment, bottom-led wage growth, increasing household wealth, solid GDP growth.

    (2) Relative to the rest of the world, the American economy has performed marvelously. Every advanced economy would trade places with us in a heartbeat.

    We are not involved in any wars. The conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan are over and our troops are no longer in harm’s way. This gives America extra freedom of maneuver in dealing with our adversaries because we no longer have active conflicts leaching away our political will on a daily basis.

    https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/2024-is-democracys-moonshot

  8. Ven says:
    Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:57 am

    A-E, Socrates, BW, Steelydan

    US &UK have deployed their warships to warn Venezuela off any military actions.
    You probably know that Guyana is the only English speaking country in South America and commonwealth nation

    My query: if 2 of the 3 AUKUS countries deployed/ deploying their warships near Guyana, don’t you think Australia should deploy a warship in solidarity with AUKUS alliance? Why is Australian MSM not demanding Albanese to do so?
    …..’
    ———————–
    I must admit this raised a chuckle.

    How is your response coming along to my question about the extreme wealth maldistribution in India along with the consequent lack of public investment in sustainable water such that well over a million people a year die as a direct consequence of poor water quality?

  9. C@tmommasays:
    Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:50 am
    I’ve just been to the JB Hi Fi Boxing Day Sale and I only had one thought, ‘Financial crisis, what financial crisis!?!’ People were walking out of there, left, right and centre, with all manner of electrical and electronic goods. And that was just in the first hour of the sale. It’ll probably slow down but still. No wallets snapped shut here.

    C@tmomma
    Is it because of cognitive dissonance or media beatup

    2023 was the Great Tightening as life and choices got harder for most

    https://amp-abc-net-au.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/103248630?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17035418408182&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2023-12-26%2F2023-was-the-great-tightening-as-life-and-our-choices-got-harder%2F103248630

  10. World Bank
    What is the Indian government doing about water scarcity?
    The Atal Bhujal Yojana, India’s largest community-led groundwater management program, is helping improve rural livelihoods and build resilience in 7 Indian states which have the highest rates of groundwater depletion.14 Feb 2023
    https://www.worldbank.org › brief
    How is India addressing its water needs? – World Bank

    India has committed investments of more than USD 240 billion in the water sector and is implementing the world’s largest dam rehabilitation programme coupled with efforts to restore groundwater level, Minister of Jal Shakti Gajendra Singh Shekhawat told the UN.24 Mar 2023
    https://m-economictimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/m.economictimes.com/news/india/india-to-invest-over-240-billion-in-water-sector-jal-shakti-minister-shekhawat/amp_articleshow/98958133.cms?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17035468411788&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

    “India has committed investments of more than USD 240 billion in the water sector and is implementing the world’s largest dam rehabilitation programme coupled with efforts to restore groundwater level, Minister of Jal Shakti Gajendra Singh Shekhawat told the UN. Shekhawat highlighted the ambitious programmes and efforts being undertaken in India towards ensuring water security and achieving Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 6 of clean water and sanitation for all as he addressed the UN Water Conference 2023 on Thursday.

    Sustainable Development Goal 6 is about “clean water and sanitation for all”. It is one of 17 Sustainable Development Goals established by the United Nations General Assembly in 2015.

    “We have committed investments of more than 240 billion dollars in the water sector through government resources, in partnership with private innovators, start-ups, and water-user associations. India is implementing two flagship missions to ensure universal access to sanitation and drinking water,” Shekhawat said, delivering the national statement in the UN General Assembly.”

  11. Ven @ #1369 Tuesday, December 26th, 2023 – 10:10 am


    C@tmommasays:
    Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:50 am
    I’ve just been to the JB Hi Fi Boxing Day Sale and I only had one thought, ‘Financial crisis, what financial crisis!?!’ People were walking out of there, left, right and centre, with all manner of electrical and electronic goods. And that was just in the first hour of the sale. It’ll probably slow down but still. No wallets snapped shut here.

    C@tmomma
    And this is in Central coast?
    Also, what are the items that are on mouth watering sale?

    TVs, monitors, games, that sort of thing.

  12. C@tmommasays:
    Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:50 am
    I’ve just been to the JB Hi Fi Boxing Day Sale and I only had one thought, ‘Financial crisis, what financial crisis!?!’ People were walking out of there, left, right and centre, with all manner of electrical and electronic goods. And that was just in the first hour of the sale. It’ll probably slow down but still. No wallets snapped shut here.

    This supposed financial or cost of living crisis given observed spending is a puzzle. There seems to be a disconnect between statistics and spending. I am not sure of the explanation but I put it down to one of these (or combination);

    1. Media beatup to foster anxiety and anti-government sentiment
    2. The crunch applies to a certain section of the community on lower incomes and/or mortgages but not to the majority. Middle income earners aren’t suffering as much as is reported.
    3. People still want their new stuff and an expected standard of living despite their real incomes falling. They then complain about not being able to put food on the table although gee that new QLED TV looks good and this i-phone 15 works a treat.

    Cheers

  13. The “cost of living crisis” ( now known as Cozzy Liv’s) prefacing so many news stories especially on the ABC seems to be just another bash Labor initiative. I know from being a Qlder that according to the media ( local murdochracy rag and ABC ) the glass is always half empty when the ALP in in power and half full ( at least) during those mercifully short periods ( at least since the downfall of Jockey Joh) of right wing rule. It’s always easy to find someone doing the hard yards and also people who didn’t get ideal treatment in the public health system, media stopped looking for them when Candoe Newman regime ruled.

  14. The Prime Minister and other ministers have routinely opened their public statements along the lines of Australians doing it tough.

    The Treasurer has promised that the Labor Government is looking at cost of living relief.
    There has been a significant national change in consumer spending patterns with significant drift away from discretionary spending.

    Nationally, there is a change in the balance between incomes and expenditure such that the national balance is in the red.

    There is no doubt that Murdoch, Stokes, Costello and Buttrose have combined to highlight the pattern in a way that ascribes blame to Labor, there is no doubt either that there is a basic issue that needs to be addressed – especially for renters, gig economy workers and individuals relying on social security.

    OTOH, the 60% of Australians who are owner occupiers are in the black because of higher house prices. They can actually afford to spend more to either maintain or grow the consumerism. It is this portion of Australians who disproportionately contributing to our CO2 emissions.

    And enjoying it more!

    #plus 2.5 degrees.

  15. JenAuthor @ #1397 Tuesday, December 26th, 2023 – 9:18 am

    Were you watching the same test as me last week Rex? Starc bowled brilliantly at times. Took 5 crucial wickets at important times in the match. More than Cummins or Hazlewood. Lyon was the only one who bowled better.

    You cannot expect Boland to repeat his heroics of 2 yrs ago and take that number of wickets again having played few tests since. It’s not how it works.

    We all know how it works.

    6 NSW players

    0 Victorian players

  16. "We've got a real problem with corruption in politics in our government agencies. "But what's worse is that Australians have built up a tolerance for corruption. It's almost factored into our expectations of politicians."- @pollyjhemming, Climate & Energy Director #auspol pic.twitter.com/mt0rfnWYi5— Australia Institute (@TheAusInstitute) December 21, 2023

    Labor and L/NP partisans are willingly ignorant of the fossil fuel cartel ownership of their teams.

  17. Morning all. Thanks for nthe international roundup Cat.

    Ven

    “ My query: if 2 of the 3 AUKUS countries deployed/ deploying their warships near Guyana, don’t you think Australia should deploy a warship in solidarity with AUKUS alliance? Why is Australian MSM not demanding Albanese to do so?”

    Whether you are for or against AUKUS, the architects of the agreement made it clear that AUKUS is a technology sharing agreement, NOT a military treaty or alliance. There is no commitment to fight to defend each other. The Defence treaty Australia has with USA is ANZUS, not AUKUS. Australia has no defence treaty with UK of any kind. UK’s only role in AUKUS is selling us (unusually costly) military equipment.

    IF USA got involved in a war with Venezuela, there is an obligation under ANZUS for both sides to consult each other over whether they need military assistance. However even that is not mandatory – if USA asked, we would not be obliged to help.

    As I said about Australia and the Red Sea, Australia has even less (virtually zero) reason to get involved in a conflict with Venezuela over Guyana. We have almost zero trade with either. They can’t hurt us, and we can’t help them. Morrison would send thoughts and prayers.

    Australia is also protected under the US “Nuclear Umbrella” whereby if any nation attacked us with nuclear weapons, the US would retaliate on our behalf. Venezuela and Guyana have no nuclear weapons, so that point is moot.

    Ven
    You also posted a link before about India putting three warships into the Arabian Sea in response to spreading Houthi drone attacks. That makes sense. The Arabian Sea has lots of trade going to India. It is in India’s designated area of Maritime Patrol responsibility too. So India has a reason and a duty to protect shipping in that sea.

    For people interested in foreign affairs and security arrangements, I strongly recommend Allan Gyngells’ outstanding book, “Fear of Abandonment”. It is virtually a modern history of Australia, covering all our foreign alliances and disputes in the modern era since WWII. It is a fascinating read. Wonder why Gough did not interfere in East Timor? That and many other sagas are told in it.

    A great holiday read:
    https://www.booktopia.com.au/fear-of-abandonment-allan-gyngell/book/9781863959186.html

  18. Cat
    “I’ve just been to the JB Hi Fi Boxing Day Sale and I only had one thought, ‘Financial crisis, what financial crisis!?!’ People were walking out of there, left, right and centre, with all manner of electrical and electronic goods. And that was just in the first hour of the sale. It’ll probably slow down but still. No wallets snapped shut here.”

    (Ven)
    “Is it because of cognitive dissonance or media beatup

    2023 was the Great Tightening as life and choices got harder for most”

    It is not a media beatup, but I think there is a simple explanation: growing inequality.

    Overall 2022 and 2023 were tough years with prices rising faster than wages around the world. If you are a mortgagee or renter it is even tougher with Australia’s record high housing costs. But if you are among the 1/3 of Australian’s who own their own home with mortgage paid off, you are fine. Those are the people at the JB Hifi sale.

  19. “ We all know how it works.

    6 NSW players

    0 Victorian players”

    ________

    Sounds pretty ideal. Especially if the other 5 players picked are also ex-NSW players …

  20. It seems that he US owned Newscorp publications are obsessed with tearing down Brittany Higgins.

    This seems pretty accurate…

    • Paparazzi photos of Brittany Higgins leaving Australia & arriving in France.• An Andrew Bolt attack piece in the Daily Telegraph.• The Herald-Sun publishes a photo of her new home AND its location. This is Princess Diana-level harassment by NewsCorp. #BrittanyHiggins— Peter Murphy (@PeterWMurphy1) December 22, 2023

  21. For some more interesting holiday reading, the Conversation website has:

    A realistic rundown on NATO failures to supply Ukraine with enough ammunition, and why the Russian Ukraine war has bogged down into a stalemate. Ukraine is nowhere near losing, but neither side looks able to win.
    https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-with-stalemate-on-the-battlefield-nato-needs-unity-and-commitment-more-than-ever-219761

    An interesting article on Australia’s pre-European settlement history, tracking ancient sea level rise and its impact on Aboriginal settlement locations.
    https://theconversation.com/people-once-lived-in-a-vast-region-in-north-western-australia-and-it-had-an-inland-sea-219505

  22. Calls for Starc to be replaced by Boland because Boland is (i) Victorian, and (ii) Indegenous would have to be one of the worst examples of gesture politics.

    Thank goodness that Integrity doesnt get to make real decisions that affect real people in the real world.

    Starc is in the team to be a strike bowler – not an economical bowler. with a strike rate of 48 his career record in that regard is actually better than nearly all the acknowledged all time greats of the game – Lillee and McGrath included. In his last 6 test matches his strike rate has been better than 35, and in the Perth test, where he was apparently bowling Rubbish – according to Rexology – he took 5 wickets at an average of 19.8 and a strike rate of 34.

    Rather than being dropped, I think all right minded folk will recognise that Starc is in a purple patch of form right now. …

    That being said, maybe he should also be rested from the Sydney test, as I think ‘3 in a row’ test matches pushes the envelope regarding Starc’s productivity. Besides which – and somewhat ironically – Boland is probably a better bowler on the SCG than Starc. However, I’m guessing that if Starc pulls through the MCG test OK, and isn’t gassed, he will also get the nod for the sydney test. Perhaps Boland might end up replacing Hazlewood, who has his own issues with back to back test matches these days.

    All our quicks are over 30yo, and I like the idea of rotating them with an enforcer like Boland: who, even if he did get knocked out of the Ashes tests, if still our next best I reckon.

  23. “ Lots of empty seats currently at the G….”

    Well the punters wouldn’t be exactly queuing up at the turnstiles for a chance to see Boland bat, would they?

  24. Q: “ Lots of empty seats currently at the G….”

    The myth of the Boxing Day test is strong….like that of the Melbourne Cup.

    Both have had their day.

  25. @socrates:

    “ UK’s only role in AUKUS is selling us (unusually costly) military equipment.”

    ______

    “ UK’s only role in AUKUS is selling us (unusually costly but usually rubbish) military equipment.”

    FTFY

  26. Andrew_Earlwoodsays:
    Monday, December 25, 2023 at 2:49 pm
    “Monday, December 25, 2023 at 11:10 am
    The seven friendliest towns in NSW as per World Atlas.

    Bermagui, Berry, Currarong, Echuca Moama, Eden, Griffith and Huskisson”

    _______

    Echuca is definitely in Victoria: it was where I was born. But it’s part of a ‘twin town’ with Moama – which is nsw.

    —————————————————————-

    As a citizen by birth of Echuca and with a legal degree. You might be able to answer this question. I’m on the banks of the Murray in Victoria but my fishing line is in NSW and i don’t have a valid NSW fishing permit. Can NSW fisheries officers actually enter Victoria to fine me?. Likewise if i catch a Carp (let’s face it, its only fish i’m likely to catch there) and throw it back in alive. Is Victoria or NSW responsible for enforcing the Biosecurity Act 2014. In which i just broke by releasing alive a restricted noxious fish under that Act. As while the fish was caught in NSW it was removed from the line in Victoria before being thrown back into NSW again.

  27. If you are standing on the southern banks of the mighty Murray, I think that technically you are still in NSW.

    Otherwise, if you are standing above the high water mark and hence in Mexico, I think there may be some extraterritoriality provisions in NSW Legislation that may still give NSW Fisheries some jurisdiction: but not to worry – if you’re not indegenous, its unlikely that they would be bothered to even attempt to enforce NSW laws.

    However, this whole ‘question’ sounds too much like ‘the law’ to me. I typically do everything I can to forget as much law as possible, and only get interested in working it all out if there is a fee involved. I’m sure with a few hours research I could provide answers to all your legal ponderables, but it would cost. Also, it’s the holiday season, so that fee would have to be pretty lucrative.

  28. Overall 2022 and 2023 were tough years with prices rising faster than wages around the world. If you are a mortgagee or renter it is even tougher with Australia’s record high housing costs. But if you are among the 1/3 of Australian’s who own their own home with mortgage paid off, you are fine. Those are the people at the JB Hifi sale.

    While I agree with the overall inequality argument, not sure the demographics stack up. People who own their own home with mortgage paid would skew older while those at the sales would seem from observation to be a much younger demographic (especially JB Hi-Fi).

  29. Andrew Earlwood
    “ UK’s only role in AUKUS is selling us (unusually costly) military equipment.”

    ______

    “ UK’s only role in AUKUS is selling us (unusually costly but usually rubbish) military equipment.”

    FTFY”

    I was overcome by the Christmas spirit. To get it exactly right:
    “ UK’s only role in AUKUS is selling us (badly delayed, unusually costly but usually rubbish) military equipment.”

  30. Torchbearersays:
    Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:52 am
    Q: “ Lots of empty seats currently at the G….”

    The myth of the Boxing Day test is strong….like that of the Melbourne Cup.

    Both have had their day.
    ————————————————————-

    What a disaster only 84,492 people attended the Melbourne Cup this year. Which is less than double the largest attendance at Randwick of 46,498. If Melbourne can’t even get double the crowd that a regional race meet like Randwick gets. They should look to give up. Likewise, even though weather is terrible, if the MCG can’t get at least double the crowd that attends a local country league stadium like the SCG. They should just play AFL there all year round and let small regional grounds like the SCG host the cricket.

  31. meher babasays:
    Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 12:24 pm
    Entropy: wouldn’t throwing a carp back in alive be a Federal offence (unauthorised introduction of non-native species)?

    ———————————————————————-
    The Biosecurity Act is a Federal Act. Though i assume the states have to enforce it by some agreement with the Feds or replicate those laws under state legislation. As the Federal Government doesn’t really have Wildlife enforcement officers beyond say at Airports and Ports where there custom officers are.

  32. “ They should just play AFL there [the MCG] all year round and let small regional grounds like the SCG host the cricket.”

    ____

    Sounds good to me.

    Three to five ‘Super tests’ between Boxing Day and Australia Day at the SCG every year. One Australia against India, one against the Poms, one against South Africa, one against NZ and one against a World XI, just to keep it interesting.

  33. Andrew_Earlwoodsays:
    Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 12:17 pm
    If you are standing on the southern banks of the mighty Murray, I think that technically you are still in NSW.

    ——————————————————-

    Always remember where average high water mark is before casting your line and keep above it. Thanks for the legal advice.

    It is still probably safer than flying a kite above North Korea while standing in South Korea during a good southerly breeze. My understand of international law would suggest to me the North Korea would be allowed to cut the Kite strings at the point it enters North Korean airspace. My understanding of North Korea is that they want care about International law and just shoot the kite flyer.

  34. Andrew_Earlwoodsays:
    Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 12:48 pm
    “ They should just play AFL there [the MCG] all year round and let small regional grounds like the SCG host the cricket.”

    ____

    Sounds good to me.

    Three to five ‘Super tests’ between Boxing Day and Australia Day at the SCG every year. One Australia against India, one against the Poms, one against South Africa, one against NZ and one against a World XI, just to keep it interesting.
    ———————————————————————-

    If lucky one of them is completed without being a washed out. The SCG is also the washout test cricket capital of Australia. Why don’t they build roof on it?. It’s a small ground even a little smaller than Docklands and that has a roof. There are times of year when Sydney weather is pretty dry, that period isn’t one of them. So if going to play tests at that time how about a roof?.

  35. Here’s a trivia question for you Entropy:

    How many test matches have been played at the SCG, and how many of them ended up being washed out?

  36. Three to five ‘Super tests’ between Boxing Day and Australia Day at the SCG every year**. One Australia against India, one against the Poms, one against South Africa, one against NZ and one against a World XI, just to keep it interesting.

    ** Weather permitting!

  37. I hope everyone had a good day. I ended up in the spa at 2 am with the Mrs and a buxom blonde drinking cocktails. It was like Christmas.

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