New Year miscellany: Dunkley by-election, preselection and polling round-up (open thread)

First reports emerge of preselection contenders for the looming Dunkley by-election, plus state polls from Victoria and Queensland and much else besides.

First up, developments ahead of the Dunkley by-election, which Rachel Baxendale of The Australian reported yesterday was “unlikely to be held before late February”:

• A Liberal preselection ballot scheduled for January 14 is expected to include Frankston mayor Nathan Conroy; Donna Hope, who as Donna Bauer held the state seat of Carrum from 2010 to 2014 and is now an electorate officer to Chris Crewther, former federal member for Dunkley and now state member for Mornington; Bec Buchanan, another staffer to Crewther and the party’s state candidate for Carrum in 2022; and Sorrento real estate agent David Burgess, who was on the party’s Legislative Council ticket for Eastern Victoria in 2022.

Paul Sakkal of The Age today reports the widower of the late Labor member Peta Murphy, Rod Glover, is being encouraged to seek preselection by “senior Labor figures”. The report describes Glover as a “respected former staffer to Kevin Rudd, university professor and public policy expert”. Also mentioned in Rachel Baxendale’s report were Madison Child, an “international relations and public policy graduate in her mid twenties who grew up in Frankston”, and has lately worked as an electorate officer to Murphy; Georgia Fowler, a local nurse who ran in Mornington at the November 2022 state election; and Joshua Sinclair, chief executive of the Committee for Frankston and Mornington Peninsula.

Other preselection news:

• Tim Wilson has confirmed he will seek Liberal preselection to recover the Melbourne seat of Goldstein following his defeat at the hands of teal independent Zoe Daniel in 2022. Paul Sakkal of The Age reports he is “unlikely to face a challenger”.

Lydia Lynch of The Australian today reports nominations for Liberal National Party preselection will close on January 15 in the inner Brisbane seat of Ryan, which the party lost to Elizabeth Watson-Brown of the Greens in 2022, and the Gold Coast seat of McPherson, which will be vacated with the retirement of Karen Andrews. The front-runner in the former case is said to be Maggie Forrest, barrister and the party’s honorary legal adviser. In addition to the previously identified Ben Naday, Leon Rebello and David Stevens in McPherson (the first two being rated the front-runners) is Adam Fitzgibbons, head of public affairs at Coles. Party insiders are said to be “increasingly concerned” about the emergence of a “McPherson Matters” group that is preparing a teal independent bid for the seat.

Lily McCaffrey of the Herald-Sun reports Emanuele Cicchiello, deputy principal Lighthouse Christian College deputy principal, has been preselected as Liberal candidate for Aston, the Melbourne seat that was lost to the party in a historic by-election result on April 1. Cicchiello ran unsuccessfully in Bruce in 2013 and has made numerous other bids for preselection.

• Rochelle Pattison, chair of Transgender Victoria and director of corporate finance firm Chimaera Capital, has nominated for Liberal preselection in Kooyong, joining an existing field consisting of Amelia Hamer, Susan Morris and Michael Flynn.

• The New South Wales Liberal Party website records two unheralded federal election candidates in Sam Kayal, a local accountant who will again run in Werriwa following an unsuccessful bid in 2022, and Katie Mullens, conservative-aligned solicitor at Barrak Lawyers who ran for the state seat of Parramatta in March and has now been preselected for the federal seat of the same name.

Polling news:

• The Courier-Mail sought to read the temperature of Queensland politics post-Annastacia Palaszczuk without breaking the budget by commissioning a uComms robopoll, crediting the Liberal National Party opposition with a two-party lead of 51-49. The only detail provided on primary votes was that the LNP was on 36.2% and Labor 34.4% – no indication was provided as to whether this was exclusive of the uncommitted, which is often not the case withuComms. Steven Miles was viewed positively by 42.7% and negatively by 27.6%, with only the positive rating of 37.8% provided for David Crisafulli. A forced response question on preferred premier had Crisafulli leading Miles by 52.2-47.8. True to the Courier-Mail style guide, the report on this unremarkable set of numbers included the words “startling”, “explosive”, “whopping” and “stunning”. The initial report on Tuesday was accompanied by a hook to a follow-up that promised to tell “who Queenslanders really wanted as Annastacia Palaszczuk’s replacement”. The answer was revealed the next day to be Steven Miles, favoured by 37.8% over Shannon Fentiman on 35.0% and Cameron Dick on 27.1%. The poll was conducted December 21 and 22 from a sample of 1911.

• RedBridge Group has a poll of Victorian state voting intention showing Labor leading 55.9-44.1, little different to the 55.0-45.0 result at the November 2022 election. The primary votes are Labor 37% (36.7% at the election), Coalition 36% (34.5%) and Greens 13% (11.5%). Extensive further results include leadership ratings inclusive of “neither approve nor disapprove” option that find Jacinta Allan viewed positively by 24%, negatively by 30% and neutrally by 32%, John Pesutto at 16% positive, 36% neutral and 29% negative, and Greens leader Samantha Ratnam at 14% positive, 29% neutral and 35% negative. The poll was conducted December 2 to 12 from a sample of 2026.

• Nine Newspapers published results from Resolve Strategic on Thursday on whether various politicians were viewed positively, neutrally, negatively or not at all, which it had held back from its last national poll nearly a month ago. Whereas a similar recent exercise by Roy Morgan simply invited respondents to identify politicians they did and didn’t trust, this one took the to-my-mind more useful approach of presenting respondents with a set list of forty names. In the federal sphere, the five most positively rated were Penny Wong (net 14%, meaning the difference between her positive and negative results), Jacqui Lambie (10%), Jacinta Price (6%), David Pocock (5%) and Tanya Plibersek (3%). The lowest were Scott Morrison (minus 35%), Lidia Thorpe (minus 29%, a particularly remarkable result given what was presumably modest name recognition), Barnaby Joyce (minus 27%), Pauline Hanson (minus 25%) and, interestingly, Bob Katter (minus 15%). Of state leaders, Chris Minns (plus 14%) and David Crisafulli (plus 9%) did notably well, and John Pesutto (minus 7%) and the since-departed Annastacia Palaszczuk (minus 17%) notably poorly. The poll was conducted November 29 to December 3 from a sample of 1605.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Lars: “There’s been 2 Labor insider articles, Nick Dyrenfuth in the AFR and Cameron Milner in the Oz. Both talking about Albo’s leadership.”

    File under ‘Manufacturing a Narrative’.

  2. FUBARsays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:10 pm
    Entropy

    No elements were true. It was either lies or she’s been mislead by someone else making up lies.

    Are we now saying that any facility that a foreign country’s armed forces operate from is now their base? Changing definitions to suit your politics?

    I’m happy to let most of the rubbish that goes for debate about the AUKUS project on here go through to the keeper because much of it is still mere speculation – but outright lies deserve to be called out and if someone is going to be a liar I will call them a liar.

    ———————————————————-

    Fair enough Fubar, i was giving her benefit of the doubt. She has posted further and it seems you are probably right here.

  3. Hospitals, surveying companies, non-destructive testing companies all have low-level nuclear waste. Bricks and concrete have low-level nuclear waste. The claim about “nuclear waste” being “stored” at HMAS Stirling is utter bollocks – scare campaigning.

  4. Go ahead, Lars. Keep flogging hatchet jobs from the fast-fading FauxFox and Murdoch media.

    Someone might hear your voice crying in the wilderness.

  5. Rossmcgsays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 10:32
    And will we ever find out how Warner’s “stolen” backpack with his caps in it turned up at the team hotel?
    Or will it be like the sandpaper story?
    The truth is out there, but who will tell it?
    _____________________
    A PR stunt from Candice. She had them all along.
    She even sucked the PM into issuing a public appeal for their return.

  6. FUBAR:
    ‘Bricks and concrete have low-level nuclear waste. The claim about “nuclear waste” being “stored” at HMAS Stirling is utter bollocks – scare campaigning.’

    Oils ain’t oils, Sol.

  7. C@tmommasays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:08 pm
    Beware of pots and kettles, Entropy.

    ———————————————————————
    Beware all with the habit of posting partial quotes i say:

    “If thou hast not conquer’d thy self in that which is thy own particular Weakness, thou hast no Title to Virtue, tho’ thou art free of other Men’s. For a Covetous Man to inveigh against Prodigality, an Atheist against Idolatry, a Tyrant against Rebellion, or a Lyer against Forgery, and a Drunkard against Intemperance, is for the Pot to call the Kettle black.”

  8. Oliver Sutton

    Describe factually what the radioactive waste is that a Nuclear Submarine produces during normal operations and maintenance.

  9. Entropy (quoting):
    “For a Covetous Man to inveigh against Prodigality, an Atheist against Idolatry, a Tyrant against Rebellion, or a Lyer against Forgery, and a Drunkard against Intemperance, is for the Pot to call the Kettle black.”

    I’ll seize the ‘Atheist against Idolatry’ part as a cue to re-quote ‘militant agnostic’ (and Nobel prize winner and ANU Vice Chancellor) Brian Schmidt:

    “I don’t know, and neither do you!”

  10. It’s nearly morning tea time in Perth and just as well.

    I think I need a cup of tea, a chocolate biscuit and a lie down after finding myself in tune with Taylormade.

  11. Happy to oblige, Flubber:

    ‘Tony Irwin, a nuclear engineer at the Australian National University says Australia will need to be ready to manage low- and intermediate-level radioactive wastes from routine submarine operations from 2033, and manage high-level waste and spent fuel from around 2060 (when the first submarines are decommissioned).

    ‘He says, high-level nuclear waste, including spent fuel (containing large amounts of highly enriched uranium) will be both highly radioactive and producing heat, so it would initially be placed in a cooling pond.

    ‘After cooling down enough to be transported, Irwin says there are four options for disposal.

    ‘The first is to store the material inside a dry cask made from steel and concrete. This is how most nuclear power station waste is dealt with, Irwin says.

    ‘The second is to send the fuel offshore for re-processing, which currently happens with high-level waste from Lucas Heights facility. “The reprocessing removes the uranium and plutonium and leaves you with fission products and minor actinides [lower-level radioactive elements]”, he says.

    ‘The third option, is deep geological disposal, typically 500 metres underground. Or, using disposal technologies like CSIRO’s deep borehole techniques, or the waste treatment technology Synroc, developed by the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Association.

    ‘A fourth option, could potentially involve re-using the fuel in a fast-neuron reactor, he says.’

    But wait, there’s more!

    ‘Curtin University nuclear scientist, Associate Professor Nigel Marks, says while Australia has managed to avoid dealing with high-level waste in the past – by sending it to France for re-processing – under AUKUS there is a clear commitment to manage the waste onshore.

    ‘“There’ll be no dodging this particular bullet,” he says.’

    https://cosmosmagazine.com/earth/explainer-radioactive-waste-from-aukus-nuclear-submarines/

  12. Irene, I note your continuing drive shots at the Labor Government in the face of the facts that do not suit your routine bullshitting:

    $54.3 million to train 500 First Nations health workers and practitioners.
    $164.3 million for vital health infrastructure projects that will provide modern, high-quality health clinics in areas of large and growing First Nations populations, and to build capacity in targeting chronic disease treatment and rehabilitation.
    $22.5 million to build a dedicated Birthing on Country Centre of Excellence at the Waminda health service in Nowra, New South Wales.
    $14.2 million to double the current funding to the National Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisation (NACCHO) to combat Rheumatic Heart Disease in high-risk communities over the next three years.
    $45 million for 30 four-chair dialysis units to provide better renal services across Australia.
    $800,000 to improve the care of patients with chronic diseases to be delivered by the Redfern Aboriginal Medical Service and the Tharawal Aboriginal Corporation Aboriginal Medical Service.
    Wilcannia, White Cliffs and Menindee in New South Wales will benefit from $1.9 million to purchase dialysis treatment buses to deliver care closer to home.
    $14.1 million to place First Nations educators in 60 primary schools to teach First Nations languages and provide greater cultural understanding.
    $33.7 million to make early childhood education and care more accessible for Indigenous families, with access to 36 subsidised hours per fortnight.
    $190.0 million over four years to help First Nations controlled and Community Sector Organisations (CSO) to maintain quality services in light of rising costs.

  13. Player Onesays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:32 pm
    Entropy @ #1790 Friday, January 5th, 2024 – 12:02 pm

    While any nuclear waste management of USA nuclear submarines will not occur in HMAS Stirling and will occur in the USA.

    Someone needs to tell the ABC …

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-18/aukus-americans-western-australia-radioactive-storage-facility/103239924

    … planning has begun for “low-level radioactive waste management” at HMAS Stirling …

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    I was meaning spent fuel rods. Not low level radioactive waste like any public hospital would generate too.

  14. Your turn now, Flubber:

    ‘Describe factually’ how bricks and mortar are comparable to ‘high-level nuclear waste, including spent fuel (containing large amounts of highly enriched uranium)’.

    Your time starts now …

  15. ‘Victoria says:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 8:20 am

    How unsurprisement

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    During the pandemic, then-President Trump said about the drug hydroxychloroquine, “What do you have to lose? Take it”. Now researchers are estimating 17,000 people may have died as a result of that advice. (Politico)’

    =====================

    Perhaps the annual Darwin Awards could have a group contendor instead of the individual efforts?

  16. Entropy @ #1816 Friday, January 5th, 2024 – 12:42 pm

    Player Onesays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:32 pm
    Entropy @ #1790 Friday, January 5th, 2024 – 12:02 pm

    While any nuclear waste management of USA nuclear submarines will not occur in HMAS Stirling and will occur in the USA.

    Someone needs to tell the ABC …

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-18/aukus-americans-western-australia-radioactive-storage-facility/103239924

    … planning has begun for “low-level radioactive waste management” at HMAS Stirling …

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    I was meaning spent fuel rods. Not low level radioactive waste like any public hospital would generate too.

    Wriggle, squirm …

  17. Boerwar @ Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:44 pm:
    =========================

    MAGA Republicans self-removing from the 2024 US Presidential Election voter roll. 🙂
    Be good if they were all from some pivotal swing state, like Georgia or Arizona.

  18. Just stating that Ages Care residents are under weight on hospitalisation and that therefore indicates that they are not being adequately cared for is unscientific speculation. I’m not saying that there aren’t cases of under feeding. But further research needs to be done to verify the reasons for this statistic.

    All my Grandparents and my father were in Aged Care and received excellent care. That is a statistically irrelevant sample size but our family experience is that good care is provided in good quality facilities.

  19. Nicholassays:
    Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 9:33 pm
    The founding charter of the Likud Party in Israel includes the statement: “Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”

    So in other words, an apartheid state.

  20. Russia has now deployed North Korean supplied ballistic missiles against civilians in Ukraine, with mixed results:

    “Russia has already used ballistic missiles supplied by North Korea to attack Ukraine, U.S. National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said at a press conference on Jan. 4.

    As Russia has become more isolated since the beginning of the full-scale invasion and has increasingly depleted its preexisting supplies of military equipment, it has turned to countries like North Korea and Iran to replenish its stocks.

    Unnamed U.S. officials previously told the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post that North Korea has provided Russia with launchers and several dozen ballistic missiles. Kirby’s statement is the first official report of Russia deploying these missiles.

    Russian forces launched at least one of the North Korean-supplied missiles into Ukraine on Dec. 30, according to Kirby, and this missile appears to have landed in an open field in Zaporizhzhia Oblast.

    Russia also used multiple North Korean missiles to strike Ukraine on Jan. 2, Kirby said, including as part of its overnight mass attack that killed five people and injured 130 more.”

    https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-war-latest-russia-fires-north-korean-supplied-missiles-into-ukraine-white-house-says/

    NATO and its partners must prevent the delivery of any and all weapons and ammunition from North Korea (and Iran) to Russia. If they cannot, they must immediately deliver weapons and ammunition of at least the same range and power and in at least the same quantities to Ukraine. And that is merely to enable Ukraine’s Armed Forces to keep up with the firepower of Russia’s Armed Forces…

  21. Macarthursays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:39 pm
    Lars Von Trier @ Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:17 pm:

    “There’s been 2 Labor insider articles, Nick Dyrenfuth in the AFR and Cameron Milner in the Oz..”
    ==========================

    News flash: the chattering classes here nudge and wink about the chattering classes there…

    Meanwhile, in the real world of actions and consequences:

    “Explosions in the temporarily occupied areas of Yevpatoriia and Sevastopol were part of a special
    operation carried out by Ukraine’s Air Force.

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    Sounds promising, those Moskal’s like to give it out but they don’t like it up em.

    I think some Cat Stevens (or Yusuf Islam ) is in order.

    Yes, I’m being targetted by a storm shadow
    Storm shadow, storm shadow
    ‘ Sailin’ and runnin’ from a storm shadow
    Storm shadow, storm shadow

    And if I ever lose my fleet
    Lose my frigates, lose my subs
    Oh, if I ever lose my fleet
    I won’t have go to war no more

  22. Sutton

    There aren’t any plan to carry out the maintenance work at HMAS Stirling that would generate medium to high level radioactive waste. That’s why the claim by the ABC is scare mongering. Only low level waste – similar to that from Health and industry through out Australia.

  23. Player One, Albo is doing what he can about improving outcomes for Indigenous people through actual governing. Government programs in the budget. Decisions made with Indigenous welfare in mind. What broken promise?

    You only seem interested in how you can fecklessly help Dutton by, just as he does hurling fact free negative labels at the current government and hoping they stick.

  24. Keating was wrong – the AUKUS deal is not “the worst deal in all history” …

    https://michaelwest.com.au/correction-paul-keating-aukus-worse-than-just-the-worst-deal-in-all-history/

    Paul Keating was wrong when he said AUKUS was the worst deal in all history. He missed the mark. It’s actually worse than what he said. It’s looking like the dumbest deal ever.

    What Keating did get right, though, was a second statement “At the Kabuki show in San Diego [to announce the deal] a day or so ago, there’s three leaders standing there. Only one is paying. Our bloke, Albo. The other two, they’ve got the band playing Happy Days are Here Again.”

    He has a way with words, does our ex-PM … and I suspect he knows a great deal more about it the issue anyone here on PB does.

  25. Has anyone else detected a ‘narrative shift’ coming out of the orifices of the Perfumed Warlord, Pie Shop Pat, the DoD and the gubberment more generally on one key aspect of OHFUCKUS over the past month.

    Before getting to that, a quick recap of the announcements of 2023:

    Back in March last year when the deal was announced the following key parts relating to the submarine procurement aspects of the deal that were announced (these were just about the only details provided at the time):

    * Australia would acquire 3 second hand SSN Virginia Class subs between 2033 and 39 as an ‘interim’ procurement from America. In order to facilitate an expanded construction tempo in the two US submarine boat building yards australia would contribute $3 billion to the two companies concerned.

    * There was an option to acquire a further 2 Virginia class subs from America if the prime contractor for the ultimate deal missed key milestones.

    * The heart of the OHFUCKUS deal was to acquire eight “SSN-AUKUS” submarines via a joint construction deal between ASC and BAE Marine at Osbourne shipyard in Adelaide.

    * The combined costs of OHFUCKUS until the end of the 2053 financial year was started to be $258 billion, but with a $100 billion contingency factored on top of that.

    The forward estimates in the following federal budget give a cost estimate for each ‘pillar’ of OHFUCKUS, but the money stops, as per the March announcement, in 2053.

    Senator David Shoebridge then pointed out that there was a massive element of ‘smoke and mirrors’ involved, because even on the Government’s ‘best case’ scenario by 2053 the BAE-ASC concern in Osbourne will still have at least three SSN-AUKUS boats to build, but more likely 4-5 to bring into service by the mid 2060s, plus another 40+ years of sustainment, plus disposal costs: ALL UNACCOUNTED FOR.

    In response to Shoebridge ‘tolling the bell’ on the obvious chicanery the Perfume Warlord flew into a towering rage stating (ok ok – flat out lying) that ‘the contingency of $100 billion’ would cover that. Clearly ‘the contingency’ doesnt cover anything more than the expected BAE gouge where the Aussie taxpayer will end up paying a massive premium for BAE to fix its own incompetence up until 2053, as per every single large BAE marine project – both in the UK and abroad – for the past 60 years. The feckless media who reported this kurfuffle did … exactly fuck all … in following up with the perfumed one over his blatant fibbing.

    The promise of EIGHT SSN-AUKUS submarine – all totally built in Adelaide – was repeated by Pie Shop Pat at the ALP Annual conference, just as soon has he’d finished denouncing everyone who dared question OHFUCKUS as appeasers (did he hire the W@rC@t to write his conference speeches one wonders).

    However from about November last year I’ve detected a shift. First of all, the USN Admiral tasked with OHFUCKUS stated that Australia would only receive two second hand Virginia Class boats (2032 and 2035) with the third boat being a brand new ‘Block VII’ boat minutes the Virginia Payload Module.

    Since then, the various announcements from the governmnet, and media reporting of them, only talk about the RAN acquiring FIVE (not 8) SSN-AUKUS boats, giving at least the impression the AUKUS construction project will end in the 2050s with the fifth boat. This would be a significant ‘walk back’ from the eight boat build, as promised through 2023. Huge if true, and perhaps reflecting a sorting for the ultimate OHFUCKUS pivot, where we cut BAE Marine loose altogether and simply go with the Americans, with no Australian construction component at all.

  26. Player One

    The ABC are deliberately scare mongering. Low-level nuclear waste has to be managed and therefore planned for – just like they do at hospitals, nuclear imaging services, non-destructive testing etc.

    Medium to high level waste will not be handled at HMAS Stirling unless there’s been a massive political change of strategy and manufacturing and deep cycle maintenance is going to occur there – which I doubt will happen, although I would fully support it.

  27. Lars, there is only one reason the billionaires media is manufacturing leadership instability about the Albo Govt. We have to have a bit of equivalence. The conservatives have no option but Dutton, and he is unelectable.

  28. Arky @ #1827 Friday, January 5th, 2024 – 12:58 pm

    Player One, Albo is doing what he can about improving outcomes for Indigenous people through actual governing. Government programs in the budget. Decisions made with Indigenous welfare in mind. What broken promise?

    Sure, sure … sadly for you, some of us have a memory. Remember when Albo said “I commit to the Uluru Statement from the heart in full”. It wasn’t that long ago.

  29. albanese leadership must be in trouble news corp has found two Shortin seporters one milner who has been band as a lobeyist in qld andmarles has a majority of mps in the victorian mps

  30. Player Onesays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:44 pm
    Entropy @ #1816 Friday, January 5th, 2024 – 12:42 pm

    Player Onesays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:32 pm
    Entropy @ #1790 Friday, January 5th, 2024 – 12:02 pm

    While any nuclear waste management of USA nuclear submarines will not occur in HMAS Stirling and will occur in the USA.

    Someone needs to tell the ABC …

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-18/aukus-americans-western-australia-radioactive-storage-facility/103239924

    … planning has begun for “low-level radioactive waste management” at HMAS Stirling …

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    I was meaning spent fuel rods. Not low level radioactive waste like any public hospital would generate too.

    Wriggle, squirm …

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    Sorry, i assumed in my original statement i was in a discussion with people who had a basic understanding of nuclear submarines. So didn’t need to explain everything. Next time i’ll try and make sure i explain to a level that a novice in a nunnery might understand.

  31. There are some sick, mentally and socially deficient “individuals” on this site

    To return to the cricket narrative, the 2 batsmen currently outside the eleven are, firstly and obviously Green

    Then

    McSweeney

    McSweeney has a sound technique with a good array of shots and is in consistent form

    Add to this that he has Captained Australia A sides over last summer and this – so by extension Lehmann and his captaincy of SA is under question given Lehmann’s performances with the bat except for a ton in the first innings of the first Shield match

    Now down to Head (who needs runs) and Marsh to build a required lead of 150 given the pitch and Australia batting last

    That 150 still 250 runs away so a huge ask courtesy of the Pakistan lower order (and Australia’s tactics)

  32. Here we go again @ #1836 Friday, January 5th, 2024 – 1:15 pm

    There are some sick, mentally and socially deficient “individuals” on this site

    You’ll have to excuse the partisans. Something has clearly happened to stir them up today, and I somehow doubt it is a few posts on a psephology website.

    Might be worth watching the news tonight, and/or reading the newspapers tomorrow.

  33. FUBARsays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 1:17 pm
    Albo got Warner’s hats back. Genius.

    It’s amazing what ASIO can do when they put their minds to it.

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    I still think my idea of making Scott Morrison special envoy to find Warner’s hat was the way to go. It would give him something to do and he could show Barnaby Joyce how a proper envoy’s report is written. None of this report via lost SMS nonsense.

  34. Cameron Milner did some really good work for Adani, managing to get if effectively subsidised by the Queensland people and using his contact to really get Adani a top deal. No doubt he was handsomely rewarded and fair enough too. He delivered.

  35. ‘FUBAR says:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:49 pm

    Just stating that Ages Care residents are under weight on hospitalisation and that therefore indicates that they are not being adequately cared for is unscientific speculation. I’m not saying that there aren’t…’
    —————
    Well, that is a relief.

  36. nathsays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 1:27 pm
    Cameron Milner did some really good work for Adani, managing to get if effectively subsidised by the Queensland people and using his contact to really get Adani a top deal. No doubt he was handsomely rewarded and fair enough too. He delivered.

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    So he is corrupt and a Queenslander. Not the most unheard of combination i would say.

    Quote: “Don’t you worry about that”

  37. ‘nath says:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 1:34 pm

    Just to make it clear, I’ve never said anyone is corrupt.’
    ———————
    Well that is a relief.

  38. nathsays:
    Friday, January 5, 2024 at 1:34 pm
    Just to make it clear, I’ve never said anyone is corrupt.

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    You might want to specify limits on this statement. Otherwise Player One might think you are claiming to have never called someone corrupt ever.

  39. Voter data expert hired by Trump campaign says 2020 election was not stolen

    https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4385239-voter-data-expert-trump-campaign-2020-election-not-stolen/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17044156631879&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fcampaign%2F4385239-voter-data-expert-trump-campaign-2020-election-not-stolen%2F

    “Ken Block, whom the Trump campaign hired in 2020 to find voter fraud in the election, penned an op-ed Tuesday stating unequivocally that the 2020 presidential election was not stolen and that there was no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election.

    “Can a steady diet of lies and innuendo overcome the truth?” the USA Today op-ed began. “In November 2020, former President Donald Trump asserted that voter fraud had altered the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. The day after the election, his campaign hired an expert in voter data to attempt to prove Trump’s allegations and put him back in the White House.”

    “I am the expert who was hired by the Trump campaign,” Block wrote.

    Block, who owns Simpatico Software Systems, said his company’s findings were communicated directly to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, and transcripts of depositions taken by the Jan. 6 select committee investigating the attack on the Capitol “show that the campaign found no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of any election.”

    Now Trump willl trash Ken Block.

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