The fortnightly Essential Research poll adds to an overall picture of static voting intention despite the government’s income tax overhaul, with Labor down a point on the primary vote to 31%, the Coalition recording 34% for the sixth poll in a row, the Greens up a point to 14% and One Nation steady on 7%, with undecided steady on 5%. Respondent-allocated preferences nonetheless cause Labor to perk up a little on the pollster’s 2PP+ measure, which has Labor up two to 50% and the Coalition steady on 46% (again with 5% undecided), Labor’s biggest lead on this measure since the start of October.
The poll also includes the monthly leaders’ favourability ratings, with differ from the separate approval ratings in inviting respondents to rate the leaders on a scale of zero to ten. This gives Peter Dutton his strongest result so far, with a four-point increase among those rating him seven or higher to 32% and a four-point fall in those rating him three or lower to 33%. Anthony Albanese improves slightly from December, when he recorded the weakest results of his prime ministership, with 33% rating him seven or higher (up one) and 35% three or lower (down two).
Questions on the tax cut changes confirm what was already established in finding 56% in favour and 16% opposed, while telling us something new with respect to awareness of them: only 10% consider they know a lot about the changes, with 37% for a bit, 40% for hardly anything and 13% for nothing at all. The poll also found 59% per cent for the “right to disconnect” laws working their way through parliament with only 15% opposed. Other questions cover fuel efficiency standards, party most trusted on tax, the importance of keeping election promises and the ubiquitous Taylor Swift, who scores a non-recognition rating of 3%.
The weekly Roy Morgan poll has Labor’s two-party lead in from 53-47 to 52-48, but this is due to changes in respondent-allocated preferences rather than primary votes, on which Labor gains one-and-a-half points to 34.5% – its strongest showing from Morgan since October – with the Coalition and the Greens steady on 37% and 12% and One Nation down half a point to 4.5%. The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1699.
In by-election news, of which there will be a fair bit to report over the next six weeks, the ballot paper draws were conducted yesterday for Queensland’s Inala and Ipswich West by-elections on March 16, which have respectively attracted eight and four candidates. Ipswich West is a rare no-show for the Greens, who are presumably more concerned with the same day’s Brisbane City Council elections. Further crowding the calendar is a looming state election in Tasmania, which is covered in the post above.
Speaking about New York, my travel plans have been updated. Because I really wanted to see New York, my son has relented and we are now going to be going for a car trip up the East Coast from Maryland to Washington to New York, Boston and Philadelphia. Should be nice in Spring. 🙂
We will go over to Yellowstone National Park if we have time. By plane. However, my other son showed me a TikTok the other day that said that the big one is due to blow up in a massive volcanic eruption there! Hmm.
Politcal Nightwatchman @ #630 Thursday, February 15th, 2024 – 10:02 am
Still blaming the previous government? I thought we had moved on from that. How many more years before the current government graduates from the high chair to a seat at the table?
If you have been following this issue, you will know two things:
1) 43% by 2030 is a completely inadequate target. I would say laughably inadequate, except this issue is not at all funny. It should be somewhere between 60% and 75% to even be credible; and
2) We aren’t even on track to meet that unambitious target, and if we do it will be because of various State efforts, and not the Federal government, who continue to approve new fossil fuel projects.
If you had to give the Federal ALP a score out of 10, you would struggle to rate them higher than about 3. Certainly nowhere near a “pass”. Sure, you can claim that the COALiton would not even rate that high, but really – where does that actually get anyone?
》the House is also likely to stay with a GOP majority.
Quite a few states have been redistributed towards the Democrats.
Including 2 to 6 in NY alone
Communique from the Smart Energy Council:
Now you mention it, I was also polled 6 weeks ago on those questions and also whether Jodie was more of a Liberal, National, Labor, Greens, One Nation or United Australia Party name.
I remember thinking, “Hasn’t the UAP been deregistered?”
1) 43% by 2030 is a completely inadequate target. I would say laughably inadequate, except this issue is not at all funny. It should be somewhere between 60% and 75% to even be credible; and
@Player One
Greens target is 75% by 2030. You try taking that to an election as an opposition where bold policy can easily be shot down by a scare campaign. Easier said then done.
We know that the Coalition is determined to do nothing that damages fossil fuel interests. That includes any action that would have any effect on reducing emissions. They’ll faff around with nuclear, CCS or planting trees and pretend to care, but at the end of the day they are 100% against taking any action to address a problem that most of them don’t believe is real.
The Greens can say what they like but can do nothing. They can have no influence on a Coalition Government. If they are sensible and pragmatic, Labor will listen.
If you actually want climate action, Labor is the only show in town.
MelbourneMammoth says:
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And polls ALMOST ALWAYS understate the conservative vote due to the Shy Tory effect. It is for this reason that in fact, if a federal election was held in Oz this weekend, a Coalition win is probably the most likely outcome.
The polls predicted a slight win to the democrats (1 or 2%, the outliers at 4%). They won by 8%.
We don’t have voluntary voting so our polls are unlikely to be out by that much.
Still, the Liberals have following the republican play book for the last two decades, it has worked well for them, but if they don’t get over the idea of following the Republicans down the ignore science, burn books, cultural war rabbit hole, they are done as party. The Liberal may have picked up a fair amount of religious nutters, but fortunately they don’t have a trump to really screw them up.
“We will go over to Yellowstone National Park if we have time. By plane. However, my other son showed me a TikTok the other day that said that the big one is due to blow up in a massive volcanic eruption there! Hmm.”
Nope!
FAQ: Is Yellowstone overdue for an eruption? When will Yellowstone erupt?
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/yellowstone-overdue-eruption-when-will-yellowstone-erupt
Didn’t someone go around and look at all the trees Tony Abbott enabled to be planted and many of them had died in the great drought before the Black Saturday bushfires?
Thanks, Pueo. I’ll let my son know we’re all good to go. But if anything happens, I’m going to blame you and the usgs. Except I’ll be dead! 😆
I think your memory is faulty on that one c@t.
@ Fubar February 820pm
Interesting to read your comments on my earlier post.
My reply.
So Labor is not progressive, but in your opinion ” regressive”.
I note you ignored the points I made about the policies the Newman government produced- land- clearing, public service cuts, more coal mines ( not to mention the attacks on the State Judiciary through the Courier Mail.) His government’s behaviour was so regressive, like Bjelke- Petersens, that his government was thrown out and he lost his seat. Even conservative Qld couldn’t take that behaviour. This so- called ” regressive” government may suffer seat losses but it’s difficult to see a ” Newman- like” disaster occurring in 2024.
You hope an LNP government gets rid of the Mining Royalty increase.
Inspite of continuing advertisements by the Mining Council, the increase in royalties has generally been well accepted by Qlders, apart from those in mining electorates who still took the increased public spending anyway. The advertising campaign claimed that this action would result in development in Mining regions being curtailed. They conveniently overlooked the reality that these projects were not locked in, but being considered- and with coal on the way out, were tenuous to say the least.
“Crisafulli needs to come out with policies.”
You hold that he doesn’t need to. After years of negative, critical government and now Opposition, the electorate wants and demands positive, well- thought out policies from all parties. And you apparently want this negative, oppositional style of politics to continue in order to defeat the current Qld government. Now that’s what I call ” regressive”. A failure to be contemporary.
“Go hard, go left.” I don’t think this Miles government could be considered remotely ” hard left”. Qlders are fairly conservative and would throw – out government who met this definition- equally as they threw out the hard Right Newman government.
“Early voting. ” Another reality you ignore. Voters in general get sick of politicians promising policies, boring them witless with constant advertisements up till 24 hrs before the actual polling day. That is why pre- poll voting is on the increase. These voters have made up their minds about their vote, and go ahead early. No last minute launch policies are going to matter. If you want to get your message across, have policies well and truly delivered pre pre- polling starts. In your view, however, the Opposition doesn’t need any policies- just focus on criticism , negativity and dissembling. That strategy is absolutely regressive in contemporary politics.
” They won’t care” . A very dismissive attitude towards those voters who want to see
and hear policies. Your view may reflect the rusted- on voters, but out there, are many voters who do care about government responsibilities and are mindful.of where their vote goes.
“Opposition’s don’t win elections- governments lose them” An old and hoary adage that may have had relevance once. If an Opposition can convince voters that they can do a better job in government than the incumbent- surely that’s a win for them as well as a loss for the government. A winning Opposition will go on and on in its election win how it won- not how the government lost.
Interested to read your reply- if you’re interested in doing so.
One last point. I’m a Qlder. I would think I have a more thorough appreciation of politics in this State, whatever my affiliations are. If you’re not a fellow Qlder, your perceptions or understanding of the political scene are coloured by your external political views and the media reporting you follow. Be careful how you apply political aphorisms to the quirky ( to say the least) Qld electoral world we have here.
Politcal Nightwatchman @ #656 Thursday, February 15th, 2024 – 11:05 am
You keep making the same point, so I may as well do so as well: What is the point of having a target that is not only inadequate, but is also not even likely to be met?
Labor’s policy is cosmetic, not functional. Sure, Labor may be applying a slightly deeper shade of greenwashing than the COALition, but so what?
Your argument is that the opposition would be worse. My argument is that the government should be better.
Finally, this is not a Greens vs Labor issue, it is a “science” vs “wishful thinking” issue.
St Mary’s wedding?
What is Wong’s solution to get the hostages released if she thinks Israel shouldn’t rescue them?
C@tmomma says:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 10:45 am
Victoria @ #644 Thursday, February 15th, 2024 – 10:35 am
Seriously how does this happen?
Dead easy.. cross contamination when you have recycled material in the supply chain.. simple solution .. no recycled material to be used.. suppliers on these projects to use only virgin material when supplying mulch etc & no recycled material mulch or compost in the same supply yard/ stock.
Steve777 @ #657 Thursday, February 15th, 2024 – 11:07 am
Labor might be fine, if it had a backbone supplied by a stronger cross bench. Without that, they are just as financially beholden to Fossil Fuel interests as the COALition.
st Mary’s wedding makes sense shellbell – albos old school is next door and he can make a play for some of the Catholic vote as a result.
Because it’s his old school it’s not a church endorsement per se but still gets the benefit. Although they’d want to be sure the wedding doesn’t attract greens protestors and the like.
frednksays:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11:10 am
“burn books”
Where?
Who?
When?
I remember copies of the Murray Darling Basin Plan being burnt – completely understood that rage over communities, businesses and lives being ruined, but not sure I’ve seen any other book burning.
Lars Von Triersays:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:04 am
The polling must have suggested a marriage was a good move . Will it be a civil or a church wedding?
Will Kyle Sandilands be invited ?
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Not sure, i suspect John Alexander will be though. It is alright to be friends with people with different views than you though.
Though i thought you were planning to always go high?. How is making a nasty slur that someone only proposed because the polling suggested it, taking the high road?.
Though i note once you take your version of the high road. You just keep on going along it.
“Lars Von Triersays:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:39 am
I must say Albo looks like he has put on weight again in that photo. Pressures of the job presumably.
Maybe he needs to talk to Turnbully’s green tea guy.”
Quote: “Look at her, a prisoner of the gutters, condemned by every syllable she utters.”
The question is not:
– “Is a carbon price the most effective climate change tool?”
but rather:
– “How much would a carbon price do in the 12 months between introduction and it’s repeal by a media backed Dutton government?”.
FUBAR says:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11:26 am
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I remember copies of the Murray Darling Basin Plan being burnt – completely understood that rage over communities, businesses and lives being ruined, but not sure I’ve seen any other book burning.
Interesting response, a justification for a book burning.
Reporting more fatalities from shooting….
Kansas city Missouri has population of 500,000. The state itself has over 6 million people.
There is a slight thing called an annulment before a Catholic re-marriage.
Has this been obtained and on what grounds?
The problem for the “Labor should work constructively with the Greens” school of thought is that it totally ignores the one way aspect of this in reality. As always it’s Labor that has to do with the reality which in this case is that they’ll get precisely fuck all acknowledgement or support from the Greens whether they engage or not.
Even if Yellowstone were “due to erupt”, that would be on a geological timescale, i.e. some time in the next 10,000 years.
‘FUBAR says:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11:26 am
frednksays:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11:10 am
“burn books”
Where?
Who?
When?
I remember copies of the Murray Darling Basin Plan being burnt – completely understood that rage over communities, businesses and lives being ruined, but not sure I’ve seen any other book burning.’
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Most amusing. FUBAR adds book burning to his list of faves.
Water holders did extremely well out of the arrangements. Those farmers who were agile did extremely well. The had access to billions in on-farm irrigation improvement funds. Vast capital improvements. Significant efficiencies in their on-farm irrigation inputs. Money for jam.
Productivity has done well out of it because market-based water price inputs inevitably drove water to where the biggest bucks were.
The main losers were Australian taxpayers who funded the massive on-farm boondoggles and the massive water sale swindles by some notorious crooks while being dudded by state governments that had no intention of meeting their biodiversity targets.
I am hopeful that the NACC is chasing up the references to the industrial scale swindles on the taxpayer.
OC , do you really think Albos first marriage in 2000 would have been canonical ?
He’d be considered never validly married under church law ? So good to go?
‘Oakeshott Country says:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11:43 am
There is a slight thing called an annulment before a Catholic re-marriage.
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Is the Pope a catholic?
interesting discussion on where USA politics is at by serious political operators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjHb96__114
The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate rose by 0.1 percentage point (rounded) to 4.1 per cent in January, according to data released today by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS).
Bjorn Jarvis, ABS head of labour statistics, said: “With employment remaining stable and the number of unemployed increasing by 22,000 people, the unemployment rate rose to 4.1 per cent in January.
“This was the first time in two years, since January 2022, that the unemployment rate had been above 4 per cent.”
However, similar to January 2022 and 2023, the increase in the unemployment rate in January 2024 coincided with a higher-than-usual number of people who were not employed but who said they will be starting or returning to work in the future. “While there were more unemployed people in January, there were also more unemployed people who were expecting to start a job in the next four weeks,” Mr Jarvis said. “This may be an indication of a changing seasonal dynamic within the labour market, around when people start working after the summer holiday period. In January 2022, 2023 and 2024, around 5 per cent of people who were not employed were attached to a job, compared with around 4 per cent in the January surveys prior to the COVID-19 pandemic.”
The seasonally adjusted participation rate remained steady at 66.8 per cent and the employment-to-population ratio fell 0.1 percentage point to 64.1 per cent. Both of these rates were still close to their recent historical highs and well above their pre-pandemic levels.
https://www.abs.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/unemployment-rate-rises-41-cent-january
Felicitations to Anthony and Jodie. I wish them well.
Cat
“The Opposition Leader claimed Efficiency Standards are a “tax on the family car” and a “ute tax” – rubbish.
We know families would save $17,000 on fuel over the life of a new car with Efficiency Standards.
We also know that ute drivers would be saving $666 in petrol next year, if the Turnbull Government had implemented the Efficiency Standards proposed in 2016.”
This is just a pack of lies by Dutton and good to see the Clean Energy Council call “Honest Pete” out on it.
The Vehicle Efficiency Regulation proposed is NOT a tax. Forecast revenue is zero.
It prescribes a standard for importers car fleets. If they meet the standard the manufacturer (and indirectly the customer) pay nothing. In all the other car markets these schemes already operate and the manufacturers adjust their vehicles to make sure they don’t pay the penalty.
The fact that car makers are able to do so highlights just how many old technology inefficient vehicles are being dumped here. We are getting the dregs of the world’s car fleet.
Pueosays:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 7:26 am
Given the success rate of the Ukraine navy with surface and underwater drones against the Russians, the AUKUS deal for submarines is looking a bit out of date.
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Pueo: The only submarine that Ukraine attacked was in dry dock, and hit with (probably) Storm Shadow missiles. I don’t see how that relates to AUKUS.
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That would be my take too. While surface vessels are very susceptible to drone attack and missile attack at all times. Submarines are only when they are in dock, getting repaired in dry dock or running on the surface for extended periods.
OC: “There is a slight thing called an annulment before a Catholic re-marriage.
Has this been obtained and on what grounds?”
I was wondering about that. It raises lots of questions. Were Albo and Carmel married in a Catholic church? If not, that might help. Is Jodie a Catholic? That would be significant too.
I don’t think the Church would have any great problem in granting Albo an annulment: they tend to bend over backwards for politicians and famous people. But it might not look all that great.
C@t
I’m sure Yellowstone can wait to erupt again. Lol
“They are all entrenched playrs in the 80 year old marketing scam that is the Liberal Party: hoovering up the bounty of a whole continent, selling it to foreigners for a song (but this is the important bit) – ensuring that they – and their bunyip establishment mates get a nice little wedge of said foreign profits on the way through, then cosplaying with the local media, marketing and advertising industries a repeat of a series of lies: starting in WW2 – that the liberal party stands for ‘the forgotten people’ (a 5 year gaslighting campaign against the wartime Curtain-Chifley government orchestrated by the Melbourne Adverting industry at the behest of Casey), more recently ‘Howard’s battlers’, ‘Morrison’s tradies’ and in its metastasised late stage 4 form parading endless cultcha wars: all designed to get a large enough slice of a feckless population to vote against their own interests and that of the nation as wealth and opportunity gets hoovered up for the benefit of a very small cliche.”
THIS.
Well put, A_E.
》The problem for the “Labor should work constructively with the Greens” school of thought is that it totally ignores the one way aspect of this in reality. As always it’s Labor that has to do with the reality which in this case is that they’ll get precisely fuck all acknowledgement or support from the Greens whether they engage or not.
Has Labour actually tried to engage with the Greens from the start on anything or have they always tried “This is the bill. We are not going to negotiate with the Greens” as the first tactic?
I believe I read at the time that the Prime Minister and Carmel Tebbutt went through the proper processes for getting permission to divorce from the Catholic Church.
Gettysburg1863 says:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11:18 am
“I note you ignored the points I made about the policies the Newman government produced”
…because that is irrelevant to the coming election where a tired, financially profligate is looking like it is going to get a similar treatment as the Bligh Government where the previously successful Premier saw the writing on the wall and bailed to avoid getting turfed out.
“You hope an LNP government gets rid of the Mining Royalty increase.”
Economics 101 – increase the price of something and ceteris paribus the quantity demanded will fall.
“with coal on the way out”
Global demand for coal continues to rise.
“Crisafulli needs to come out with policies.”
No. Really he doesn’t. They will probably come out with a few – more to have something to talk about than. The disaster that you the crime is in the State is low hanging fruit.
“I don’t think this Miles government could be considered remotely ” hard left””
The economy destroying emissions target they just legislated is hard left politics.
““Early voting. ” Another reality you ignore. Voters in general get sick of politicians promising policies, boring them witless with constant advertisements up till 24 hrs before the actual polling day. That is why pre- poll voting is on the increase. These voters have made up their minds about their vote, and go ahead early. No last minute launch policies are going to matter. If you want to get your message across, have policies well and truly delivered pre pre- polling starts. In your view, however, the Opposition doesn’t need any policies- just focus on criticism , negativity and dissembling. That strategy is absolutely regressive in contemporary politics.”
It doesn’t matter. My experience over decades of closely following elections is that the campaign generally makes very little difference. The polls rarely change very much from when the writs are issued to voting. A lot of money is actually wasted by all Political parties.
“” They won’t care” . A very dismissive attitude towards those voters who want to see
and hear policies. Your view may reflect the rusted- on voters, but out there, are many voters who do care about government responsibilities and are mindful.of where their vote goes.
“Opposition’s don’t win elections- governments lose them” An old and hoary adage that may have had relevance once. If an Opposition can convince voters that they can do a better job in government than the incumbent- surely that’s a win for them as well as a loss for the government. A winning Opposition will go on and on in its election win how it won- not how the government lost.”
It is far smarter people than I who made the observation that it is Governments that lose elections, not Oppositions who win them.
Once the electorate has decided that the Government’s time is up and it’s time to give the other side a go – that’s it. Finished.
“One last point. I’m a Qlder. I would think I have a more thorough appreciation of politics in this State, whatever my affiliations are. If you’re not a fellow Qlder, your perceptions or understanding of the political scene are coloured by your external political views and the media reporting you follow. Be careful how you apply political aphorisms to the quirky ( to say the least) Qld electoral world we have here.”
I’m one of these strange people who actually follow politics closely and have an interest in most State elections. So, I’ve been following Queensland politics for a long time. I have a sister who lives in Queensland and lots of friend from the Northern most tip all the way down the coast to Coolangatta and out into the gas fields and cattle stations. So, plenty of ears to the ground.
There hasn’t been a poll with the ALP leading since January 23. That’s why the Soccer Mum bailed. Maybe I’m wrong but I can’t see the ALP coming back. Interested to see how the local elections and byelections go – but know they aren’t a real indicator for the election.
Victoria wants upgrading (its) energy grid to be a national project. I.e. they want us to pay.
“Victoria’s energy minister will push for a national approach to weatherproof the electricity grid, with about 79,000 households still without power after a deadly storm brought down transmission lines.”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/feb/15/victoria-power-outages-weatherproof-electricity-grid-australia-calls-lily-dambrosio
Sorry Victorian Labor but I find it hard to have sympathy for you on this one. Electricity grids are a state (financial) responsibility. Victoria should be paying to fix its grid. The critical part of this story is here:
“He said Victoria’s transmission network consisted of structures originally designed between the 1960s and 1980s.”
The towers that fell over would have failed to meet structural design rules that existed when I studied Civil Engineering in the early 1980s. The owner of the Victorian grid, Ausnet Services (Brookfield Asset Management), should be paying. Brookfield earnt $2.1 billion in Australia in 2022.
Socrates @ #684 Thursday, February 15th, 2024 – 11:49 am
Exactly. But you know that to Peter Dutton, every Labor initiative is a tax nail he’s got to hammer.
Japan’s economy slipped into a recession as it unexpectedly shrank for a second straight quarter on weak domestic demand, data showed on Thursday, raising uncertainty about the central bank’s plans to exit its ultra-easy policy sometime this year. The surprisingly weak performance saw Japan lose its title as the world’s third-largest economy, replaced by Germany.
Gross domestic product (GDP) fell an annualised 0.4% in the October-December period after a 3.3% slump in the previous quarter, government data showed. It compared with a median market forecast of a 1.4% increase. Two consecutive quarters of contraction are typically considered the definition of a technical recession.
The weak data may cast doubt on the Bank of Japan’s forecast that rising wages will underpin consumption, and justify phasing out its massive monetary stimulus.
“There’s a risk the economy could shrink yet again in the January-March quarter due to slowing global growth, weak domestic demand and the impact of the New Year quake in western Japan,” said Takuji Aida, chief economist at Credit Agricole. “The BOJ could be forced to sharply downgrade its rosy GDP forecasts” for 2023 and 2024, he added. The yen was little changed following the release of the data and last stood at 150.42 per dollar, pinned near a three-month low hit earlier in the week.
The Nikkei (.N225) , opens new tab rose 1%, reversing some of its losses made from the previous session, possibly on expectations the BOJ may continue with its massive easing program for longer than expected. On a quarterly basis, GDP slid 0.1% against median forecasts of a 0.3% gain.
The owner of the Victorian grid, Ausnet Services (Brookfield Asset Management), should be paying. Brookfield earnt $2.1 billion in Australia in 2022.
Privatisation. Don’t you just love it? 😐
The banking industry over the past decade have donated $5 million to the Aus labor party also the ex labor premier of QLD Anna Bligh is the spiff mouthpiece of the bankers.
Thats why we get shared equity stunts by labor and younger generations have to half their gains because the fed labor government will not reform property because banks profits will suffer.
Excessive immigration by fed labor gov has turbo charged property prices.
Meanwhile today labors unemployment legacy in the past year.75,000 more Aussies on the dole.
Dec-23 Jan-24Monthly change (%)
Unemployed people 576,400 581,600 5,200 0.9% 75,600
C@tmomma says:
Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:26 am
“Which is why the Religious Right, who are seeking to take over the democracies of the Western World, as they battle the Theocrats from the other religion in the Holy War of the 21st century and to control our bodies and our lives, have chosen a former pastor to replace Linda Reynolds in the Senate. Okay, got it. ”
No preselection has been made. You’re wrong. Again.
pied piper @ #696 Thursday, February 15th, 2024 – 12:09 pm
You seem to have forgotten who was in power over the last decade, numpty. Plus, you have failed to tell the other side of the story. Like how much was donated to the Coalition? Plus, that the leader of the Nationals is a former…checks notes…banker. 😐
Guys,
We are dancing around Ne Temere here.
To be canonical, under the rules set by St. Pius X (and since updated) the first marriage must have been performed under church rites by a priest. If this did not occur then, under the Petrine doctrine, the first marriage never occurred but, it should be noted, that any children are considered legitimate. In that case there is no impediment to a catholic marriage provided Jodie is some sort of Christian.
However, (prepare for massive and uncharacteristic name drop), Albo once told Luke Foley and me that Carmel’s parents were DLP. It is therefore likely that the first marriage was canonical and the processes of an annulment through the Roman Tribunal will be required.
FUBAR @ #697 Thursday, February 15th, 2024 – 12:14 pm
So, let’s see who eventually gets the gig then. But to nominate ANOTHER Evangelical former preacher? Explain THAT away.
And not with, they’ve got a right to nominate whoever they want. That’s just pablum that avoids addressing the obvious.