The Financial Review has a federal poll from Freshwater Strategy, the pollster’s first for the paper since mid-December, though it conducted one for the News Corp papers in early January. It has Labor leading 51-49, after its previous two polls both recorded a dead heat. There is little change on the primary vote, with Labor on 31% and the Coalition on 38%, respectively steady and down one from both the two previous polls, and the Greens on 14%, up one from the December poll and steady from January.
A preferred prime minister measure has Anthony Albanese leading Peter Dutton 42-38, little changed from 43-39 in December. A question on the tax cut amendments finds 44% supportive, 26% indifferent and 15% opposed, with 32% expecting to be better off, 12% worse off and 43% anticipating no difference. The poll was conducted Friday to Sunday from a sample of 1049.
‘Somewhat Abstract says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 5:35 pm
Dear Boerwar,
Thanks for the words of encouragement. You too. Glad my sarcasm was well received by your literalist ears. Pretty sure your reply was sparks flying pretty nicely.
Also no-one wants to live in Launceston.’
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The Venice of the South.
Taylormade @ #336 Monday, February 19th, 2024 – 6:34 pm
You really are amazing. You actually believe something published in a Murdoch shit sheet!!?!
Your brain has no quality control mechanism at all.
“Australia is one of only six countries in the OECD not to have any vehicle-emissions standards. Our fuel quality is also among the worst in the group, with a maximum of 150 parts per million (ppm) of sulphur for 91 octane regular unleaded, and up to 50 ppm for our 95 and 98 premium unleaded. Both of those standards were banned in Europe 10 years ago”
We are troglodytes and we have no shame. If we try really hard, one day we may become Luddites.
Our climate inaction is almost as bad as our inherent racism.
Boerwar at 7.28 pm
Lonnie has hills so it’s nothing like Venice, which is in the South (of Europe). St Petersburg is Venice of N.
Socratessays:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 5:36 pm
Afternoon all. Thanks Nadia88 for the Morgan poll posting. Regardless of the exact numbers the trend is clearly pro-Labor or flat at worst since the Stage 3 tax cut decision.
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Don’t know Soc. Polls are a bit flat after the S3 revision. I was expecting a jump of 3-4% on primary, and I base that only on convo’s with neighbours and family (ie: revised tax cuts have been received well). I’ve had a look back through polling history and there were big jumps when Howard “stormed the Tampa”, and also when Malcolm Turnbull took over the reigns (albeit for two polls). I know some of the sensible posters here have said – wait until Jul-1 when the tax cut hits – but I suspect that that will be forgotten. I hate to say it, but as Aussies we tend to think of the short term and not the long. The message from the LNP is very strongly about “broken promise” and if the LNP is smart they will keep running that line all through Feb/Easter/the Budget and up until Jul-1. Gut feeling is the tax cuts will be forgotten, but the broken promise will be remembered. Time will tell.
My comment on polls:
Bludgertrack jumped up a sizeable 0.9% last night for the ALP primary but that’s 25 days after the S3 revision was announced. I don’t know the logarithm but I assume BT has removed most of the polls from late last year, from it’s calculations. (Remember, late last year the ALP primary touched 29% in a few polls – so these have probably been removed from the system). There have been 2 polls this past 6 days which have the ALP on 31% – this is a shocking primary & I suspect BT will drop down a bit, late Feb/early March (after the boost this week).
Note: I’m aware that BT is not a poll, but it’s the only thing we have which aggregates the past few weeks polls and then spits out number. (KB and Mark the Ballot also have a system on their sites). Computers tend to remove the emotion – they’re brutal, and sorry, they don’t lie.
We are awaiting Resolve Strategic to drop. Maybe the Age/SMH have dropped Resolve. Who know’s.
Newspoll out this Sunday. Hopefully DemosAU reveals their primaries during the week.
Big poll is the by-election on Saturday 2-March (Jeepers, 12 days away).
Next big poll is the Tassie election.
Dr Doolittlesays:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:32 pm
Boerwar at 7.28 pm
Lonnie has hills so it’s nothing like Venice, which is in the South (of Europe). St Petersburg is Venice of N.
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Atlantis is the Venice of the south. Just sunk a bit further and so much harder to find.
‘Dr Doolittle says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:32 pm
Boerwar at 7.28 pm
Lonnie has hills so it’s nothing like Venice, which is in the South (of Europe). St Petersburg is Venice of N.’
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Harsh, Dr D, very harsh. It is not Lonnie’s fault that Venice lacks hills.
Around about the 1950’s the Tasmanians were going to turn themselves into the Ruhr of the South but something must have thrown a spanner in the works.
If Marles is not very careful we’ll end up with more ships than rear admirals.
nadia88 says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:38 pm
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Computers tend to remove the emotion – they’re brutal, and sorry, they don’t lie.
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Value-free algorithms?
That sounds suspiciously like the government by technocrats being bandied about for Palestine.
nadia88 says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:38 pm
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Computers tend to remove the emotion – they’re brutal, and sorry, they don’t lie.
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There only as good as the algorithm they are running and the data input. If you put crap data in you still get crap data out too. So why they don’t lie, they certainly can be mislead.
Boerwarsays:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:49 pm
nadia88 says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:38 pm
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Computers tend to remove the emotion – they’re brutal, and sorry, they don’t lie.
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Value-free algorithms?
That sounds suspiciously like the government by technocrats being bandied about for Palestine.
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I don’t think the BT computer gives a sugar about Palestine. It is there to deal with the numbers only, brutal as it may be.
Somebody mentioned “the Venice of the South”. Melbourne is a strong contender.
https://www.museumoflost.com/great-melbourne-flood/
yes rex you were right about stage three not being the problim some on hear prodicgted how ever most peoplecould not name who would of benafited from the cuts and what the stage three tax cuts involved the original stratigy of the coalition turning itin to a carbon tax fell apart when they voted for the changis
Entropysays:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:59 pm
nadia88 says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:38 pm
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Computers tend to remove the emotion – they’re brutal, and sorry, they don’t lie.
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There only as good as the algorithm they are running and the data input. If you put crap data in you still get crap data out too. So why they don’t lie, they certainly can be mislead.
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Entropy – and what data do you suppose the site host should put in? The stuff which is published or some make believe fairy cake poll. We can only go by the data provided by the pollsters. BT simply spits out a trend.
Don’t be mean about Launnie everyone.
I just returned home from there today, and I found the town more lovely than ever in the beautiful weather we had down here in Tassie over the weekend.
Sure, Launnie has the a__e out of its pants, but in a very charming sort of a way. On Saturday night I greatly enjoyed a gin cocktail or two at one of the trendy bars in the town (or city, as they rather adorably like to think of the place). And the thought struck me that Launnie was in some respects a little bit groovier than Hobart.
However, I had to revise that thought on Sunday night. I’ve visited graveyards where there was more going on. Restaurants, fashionable bars, most interesting places had all closed their doors on the sabbath. So there’s still a bit of work to be done in Launnie. But it’s getting there.
Been There – haven’t heard from you for a while love. Hope all’s well & miss you. Drop a post, keep us in the loop. Always good to hear your perspective.
I know I have harped on about it, but the gap between announcement and money is an issue. Proximity between stimulus and reinforcement is helpful. I think Labor went early due to Dunkley.
Boerwar at 7.45 pm
It wasn’t a spanner, it was a huge wall of concrete, inspired by Electric Eric Reece, which produced a gigantic and far from pretty lake, nothing like the original Lake Pedder.
Here is the original Lake Pedder with its glorious beach:
https://www.naa.gov.au/students-and-teachers/learning-resources/learning-resource-themes/environment-and-nature/conservation/lake-pedder-it-was-flooded
Here is the ugly replacement:
https://www.examiner.com.au/story/4522576/electric-erics-power-scheme/
https://australianpolitics.com/1999/10/24/eric-reece-former-premier-of-tasmania-dies-90.html
At the time Reece started his long rule as Premier, he was possessed by a similar industrial mania to the Stalinist party leader in Azerbaijan, Imam Mustafayev, who literally said in 1958 the greatness of the system he worked for could be measured by the amount of power produced. More = greater.
Meanwhile, here’s another entrant for the Venice of the South competition, and it ain’t looking pretty:
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/fremantles-west-end-becoming-venice-of-the-south-with-rising-sea-waters-20160830-gr4iqh.html
‘”Professor Chari Pattiaratchi from the UWA’s Oceans Institute told 9 News Perth on Monday night [Aug 2016] that early settlers didn’t allow for rising sea-levels when the buildings were built.
“It was not built high enough at the time – obviously they were not aware the seas would arise,” he said.
The West End of Fremantle could be under water by 2100.
“If you actually go to Venice the water bubbles out from all the storm drains and that’s the type of scenario you are looking at.”
Professor Pattiaratchi warned in 2011 climate change scientists were predicting a sea-level rise of one metre by 2100 along Australia’s coastline.
He claimed such a rise would have profound impacts on the tidal range along the West Australian coast.
A federal government report at the time found sea levels around Australia’s west and far north have risen the most, with an eight-millimetre rise recorded since the early 1990s.
If the sea level keeps rising at that rate, it won’t just be the basement of buildings in the West End that will be under water but a large chunk of the port city by 2100, with most of the coastline expected to move 100 metres inland.
Professor Pattiaratchi said Fremantle would also be vulnerable to flooding because of storm surges caused by climate change.
“Ground water in these areas would be high, then if you had storm surges then you would have that,” he said.’
As someone once said, that Venice of the South might become the Atlantis of the West within the space of a lifetime, while the well to do in Lonnie who live above the fog line will be sitting pretty.
For a anyone interested in a Kyiv-eye view of things (and no, it’s not entirely about the war):
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/
https://kyivindependent.com/
https://www.kyivpost.com/
Update to Roy Morgan posted earlier, we now have an Indie/PHON split.
Link: https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9457-federal-voting-intention-february-19-2024
* ALP 34% (down 0.5)
* LNP 37% (steady)
* GRN 13% (up 1)
* ONP 4% (down 0.5)
* Indep/Others 12% (no change)
Sample: 1706 (decent size)
Poll Period: 12-18 Feb
Somewhat Abstract:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 4:59 pm
[‘(I am a 16yo conservative from Bass (not Launceston) who has been on this site for 2 years, owing most of my political understanding to it, who has been too scared to post because my controversial opinions will get bullied by self righteous leftists. This will be fun)’]
You’re surely taking the piss. I can only talk for myself but when I was
16, all I could think of was sex. But if you’re truly 16 and can produce a post like that, please contact Great Uncle Otto’s nephew on… for I see a Tory leader in the making. A few words of advice: if you’re using AI or a false online identity, on this site you’ll soon be found out.
Are polls forward looking, or does a new poll today update the best fit curve value for yesterday as well. And if it does update yesterday’s value, how far back does it reach?
The reverse is also worth considering.
The point is that WB puts a lot of thought into the decisions that influence his computer’s calculations. His gravatar is accurate. In Him we must trust.
Dr Doolittle @ #354 Monday, February 19th, 2024 – 7:32 pm
Speaking of St Petersburg, here’s an interesting exposé of the celebrated (artistic director of the Marinsky, amongst many), and denounced (loyal Putinista) Valery Gergiev.
He’s been to the SOH twice – with the London Symphony, and the Vienna Philharmonic, to huge acclaim, with one of the VPO concerts live streamed to an outdoor audience on the Great Steps.
It’s interesting on many levels – starting with an animated Alexei Navalny outside the Met in New York, in Lincoln Plaza. While the focus is on Gergiev, there’s a lot of pretty compelling, and nasty, footage, up to and including Ukraine. One frame that caught my eye was a grinning Placido Domingo between Gergiev and Putin at some cheesy shindig.
https://youtu.be/g9BOyC37JGU?si=7AheEceK__ZdOz4r
nadia88says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 8:14 pm
Been There – haven’t heard from you for a while love. Hope all’s well & miss you. Drop a post, keep us in the loop. Always good to hear your perspective.
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Thanks for your kind thoughts, Nadia88.
All’s good with me, been pretty busy with work and moving house.
Sorting nine years of accumulated junk, whoever thought a household could accumulate so much junk and excess furniture?
Putting most if it under the carport and letting people help themselves.
Lounges, tables, armchairs, cabinets even a pool table, you name it!
What’s left goes in the skip bin, and it’s a bloody big one!
Lurking when I can and mostly post after dark on nights when I don’t have to work the next day, or have an afternoon shift and can stay up late and be naughty.
See you when I have my next after dark moment!
nadia88says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 8:10 pm
Entropysays:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:59 pm
nadia88 says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:38 pm
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Computers tend to remove the emotion – they’re brutal, and sorry, they don’t lie.
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There only as good as the algorithm they are running and the data input. If you put crap data in you still get crap data out too. So why they don’t lie, they certainly can be mislead.
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Entropy – and what data do you suppose the site host should put in? The stuff which is published or some make believe fairy cake poll. We can only go by the data provided by the pollsters. BT simply spits out a trend.
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The site host has no control over the data others produce. He does rank it though based on how reliable it has been in the past. Unfortunately sometimes past performance is not an indication of future performance. Yes you’re stuck with the data that is available. It doesn’t mean the standard of this data will always be reliable though. Hence you pointing out (i think it was you?) the Green vote on a certain poll for an older age demographic looked skew whiff. Possibly indicating poll might be a bit out.
Given the present economic conditions, I think the government would be pretty pleased with the numbers they are polling at the moment. The fact that they don’t seem to have copped any real backlash from the S3 backflip so far is a major win in my book.
Dr Doolittle says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 8:22 pm
Boerwar at 7.45 pm
It wasn’t a spanner, it was a huge wall of concrete….’
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I was speaking to an engineer a long time ago in Hobart. Actually, a very long time ago.
At one stage he, and some of his mainland peers, were being taken around in a bus by some Hobart engineers. He reckoned that when the bus stopped in the bush the visiting engineers were reluctant to take a leak lest the Hobart engineers commenced damming operations.
Somewhat Abstract:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 4:59 pm
[‘(I am a 16yo conservative from Bass (not Launceston) who has been on this site for 2 years, owing most of my political understanding to it, who has been too scared to post because my controversial opinions will get bullied by self righteous leftists. This will be fun)’]
So, THIS is the post? Kind of a confused young man. Thinks that his opinions being challenged equates to being ‘bullied by self-righteous leftists’. Seems as if he has already set his opinions into aspic, so I don’t know how ‘being bullied by self-righteous leftists’ is going to change anything, at the end of the day. He’s welcome to try, of course. And I wouldn’t be scared out of doing it and I’m glad he has summoned the intestinal fortitude at last to at least make his initial post. I look forward to parrying with him. But not in a ‘bullying self-righteous leftist’ way, of course. 😉
Oh, and Somewhat Abstract, no need to be scared of me, I’m just a harmless little pussycat, one of whose kittens is a self-righteous conservative! 😆
nadia88
I appreciate your posts very much but I have to say that your notion of value-free algorithms is… well, is inhuman.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=is+it+possible+to+have+value-free+algorithms
I was going to warn the importance of being earnest non-Lonnie lad that his post would set le chat among les pigeons but I figured he would find that out all by himself.
A 16 year old conservative should be doing something far more constructive than posting here. I would suggest joining the young liberals so you can learn to exclude women, minorities and the poor from your worldview. That is assuming you have a dad rich enough for your trust fund and private school to impress them enough to let you in.
Alternatively, you could become an Elon Musk reply guy on twitter, sycophantically hanging off every tweet he makes.
Conservatives deserve to be bullied, otherwise how will they learn their ideology is utter garbage and responsible for the vast majority of problems they inflict on the working class that they know nothing about other than how to fire them in order to generate a higher quarterly share price.
I’m thinking the kid could be one of FUBAR’s love children.
It’s on like Donkey Kong! Border Force, post Pezzulo/Dutton era V Dutton! 😀
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/dutton-albanese-clash-on-cost-of-asylum-boat-patrols-20240219-p5f5y0.html
I like Cataract Gorge and its peacocks
Boerwar says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:12 pm
I was going to warn the importance of being earnest non-Lonnie lad that his post would set le chat among les pigeons but I figured he would find that out all by himself.
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Oh whoops people take you literally on here…
‘Albanese said Dutton was undermining border security by claiming Operation Sovereign Borders had been weakened.
“What the government is saying is Operation Sovereign Borders is in place and no one who’s an unauthorised arrival will be allowed to settle here,” he said.
Albanese said people smugglers would exploit the opposition leader’s claims because his words would become a “marketing” opportunity.
“Peter Dutton needs to stop acting in such an irresponsible, opportunistic way in trying to seize some short-term political advantage in a way that just does not promote Australia’s national interest,” Albanese said.
“For all of his rhetoric over the weekend, yesterday, every single one of these people was disembarked in Nauru in accordance with the government’s policy, in quite a great deal of contradiction from what Mr Dutton was saying yesterday, and on Saturday.
“If people smugglers want to take those grabs from Mr Dutton and show them to people, that’s called a marketing tool.
“Peter Dutton knows he’s part of a marketing tool for those people. I won’t be a part of that. Nor should he.”’
Yep.
Back in the day the danger of doing business with the likes of Coles was that an Order was not an Order until it had a delivery date – payments then manipulated to the next not the current payment cycle, so close to 60 days
So suppliers effectively held the stock at their risk, pending a delivery date
Then you had that (say) Coles never provided a delivery date because they had accessed the product cheaper elsewhere
Or the product had lost market appeal so a delivery date was never issued
The provider was then left to get at best wherever so often at loss
And given the business you attended with say Coles there was embargo on you selling that product to other retailers
So anyone with significant reliance on say Coles was a risk – that risk impacting their relationships with their bankers
Diversify, diversify
Then a premium was paid to have your product at eye level – and where one supplier of a well known brand would actually walk thru a say Coles en route to lunch to check his product was at eye level as he had paid for
Just for starters
I don’t imagine much has changed
It is a dirty business and always has been introducing risk to suppliers
At one stage the Balance Sheet of Wesfarmers had a liquid asset not attaching to any business activity
That liquid asset was the Capital deployed to establish Bunnings
It must be recognised that Capital and Reserves and the contribution of profit to Capital and Reserves has the function of part (at least) funding expansion plus paying dividends and interest to those who fund the business
Because no bank is going to own a business – the old story that if you have no “hurt money” invested why should you get a return including a salary
There needs to be a balance
bob says:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:14 pm
“A 16 year old conservative should be doing something far more constructive than posting here. I would suggest joining the young liberals so you can learn to exclude women, minorities and the poor from your worldview. That is assuming you have a dad rich enough for your trust fund and private school to impress them enough to let you in.
Conservatives deserve to be bullied, otherwise how will they learn their ideology is utter garbage and responsible for the vast majority of problems they inflict on the working class that they know nothing about other than how to fire them in order to generate a higher quarterly share price.”
Oh my goodness, what a completely and utterly false list of assumptions, well done bob
I know it may be a surprise, but there are conservatives out there who are blue collar and don’t go to a private school and actually aren’t completely unionised and doled up.
Hypocritical point about women, minorities etc, your attitude to concervstives is obviously quite exclusive
Asha:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:00 pm
[‘Given the present economic conditions, I think the government would be pretty pleased with the numbers they are polling at the moment. The fact that they don’t seem to have copped any real backlash from the S3 backflip so far is a major win in my book.’]
Labor rarely exceeds circa 52 per cent. That said, it’s very safely placed to win the next election. Poor Dutts, I knew him well. Pepsy.
ItzaDream at 8.45 pm
Thanks for the link to the doco on Gergiev. I once saw him face to face, just metres away, at Heathrow in a departure lounge, waiting for a flight to Moscow, in 2006. For him I was a stranger, but he knew that I knew who he was, musically speaking.
The doco has an up-beat style, characteristic of Navalny’s team. I’ve watched the first 11 minutes, and will finish it later. The doco is very serious, but it is laced with humour and irony, two key ingredients.
There is a passage in a 1988 book titled The Thinking Reed, by Boris Kagarlitsky, a socialist critic of Russian authoritarianism who was sentenced to 5 years prison last Tuesday, where he says that, during a period of reaction the main element of progressive agitation must be irony. While Navalny and his team have probably never read the book, they have understood that point well.
It is no surprise that Gergiev is very wealthy, although he was travelling on an ordinary commercial flight in 2006. This was something that Navalny communicated very well, that Putin’s regime is, to use the title of a book by a US Russian expert, Karen Dawisha, a kleptocracy, based upon thievery.
There is a point in Dawisha’s book where she reveals that Putin talked secretly with some of Russia’s main oligarchs in the months before Yeltsin made him President, in a system without any checks or balances. Where did the meetings occur? Not in Russia, but in the wealthy Mediterranean resort areas of Spain. There is no official record of Putin travelling there for the meetings, but he certainly did. In other words, he visited Spain clandestinely, typical of a spy.
Here is a video of a 2014 talk with Professor Dawisha, who had good contacts in Russia in the 1980s with people in the Soviet system who were much more senior to Putin, such as Evgeny Primakov, who eventually became the most effective Russian PM, in the year before Yeltsin promoted Putin:
https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?ei=UTF-8&p=Putin%27s+Kleptocracy%3A+Who+Owns+Russia%3F&type=E210US739G0#id=1&vid=799e367b63ed43e708a6e468ab76fb6e&action=click
Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil is preparing a major border security funding package in the May budget following warnings from Australian Border Force and Operation Sovereign Borders commanders that an ageing fleet and a lack of pilots have slashed aerial and maritime patrols.
The Australian can reveal the government is working on a budget boost to upgrade the OSB fleet after ABF Commissioner Michael Outram outlined critical deficiencies including pilot shortages, “blowouts” in deep-level maintenance time frames and increasing reliance on Defence assets.
Mr Outram’s revelations, made several weeks before a vessel dropped off 12 illegal maritime arrivals in an isolated and rugged stretch of Western Australia’s Kimberley coastline on November 22, came amid a surge in illegal fishing and decreasing aerial and maritime patrols.
ABF figures show a 20.7 per cent decrease in aerial flying hours and 12.2 per cent fall in maritime patrol days in 2022-23, compared with aerial and maritime surveillance hours logged in 2020-21.
The Australian can reveal Indigenous residents in WA’s Dampier Peninsula, where 39 asylum-seekers were apprehended on Friday, have observed fewer aerial patrols in recent years and pitched to consecutive governments their interest in operating drones to help thwart people-smugglers and illegal fishers. A senior Indigenous man used an inexpensive drone to alert ABF to both the asylum-seeker boat landing site and the campsite used by the arrivals.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/ageing-fleet-and-pilot-shortage-cuts-aerial-and-maritime-patrols/news-story/ce8e000ed97137afaa72a7094d823998?amp
Here we go againsays:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:26 pm
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While i’m not saying there is not problems with how they treat their supply chain. I did note the ABC program said Coles overall profit margin was 4.8%. So those hoping we can cut there profit margin and get much cheaper groceries are going to be sadly disappointed if that margin is true. I think Woolworths was at 6.0%. So i guess slightly higher but still not going to get you much cheaper groceries even if you halved that margin.
Julian Lesser bullshitting.
Just lied on national TV.
LR,
I guess you are asking about bludgertrack.
My understanding of the bludgertrack poll aggregate, gleaned from William over the years, is that it is a sequence of LOESS point estimates. If that is correct, then each estimate is based on a collection of recent polls available at that point in time, with the polls figures themselves weighted by recency, past performance, and a dash of Mr Bowe’s special sauce.
The LOESS estimate from last the previous does not directly affect the current one, nor the reverse, but they are obviously linked through the data.
Holdenhillbillysays:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:50 pm
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Do you have a reliable source for this information or is it only in “The Australian”?.
I like Albo’s use of the word “tool” when describing Dutton.
One for the road, William’s banning of GG was an entirely appropriate decision. He was warned for his recalcitrance but failed to adhere. He’s witty but it was only a matter of time before he reverted to form – very nasty, though some, such as Victoria, couldn’t get enough of him.
Entropy – It is not like the profit margins are hidden or anything. They are both publicly listed companies and both have to report the figures in their annual reports.
Last time I looked we were a country that allow free enterprise. ABC reporting like this makes them look like a pack of commies…. The IPA will be calling for its privatisation soon…. hang on they already did.
B. S. Fairmansays:
Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:08 pm
Entropy – It is not like the profit margins are hidden or anything. They are both publicly listed companies and both have to report the figures in their annual reports.
Last time I looked we were a country that allow free enterprise. ABC reporting like this makes them look like a pack of commies…. The IPA will be calling for its privatisation soon…. hang on they already did.
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Personally if i was going to run a business and worked out i would get around 5% profit margin doing it. I would put the money in shares and bonds instead. As i certainly could do better than 5% just doing nothing but leaving it there.
The Australian can reveal the government is working on a budget boost to upgrade the OSB fleet after ABF Commissioner Michael Outram outlined critical deficiencies including pilot shortages, “blowouts” in deep-level maintenance time frames and increasing reliance on Defence assets.
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I wish this prick would make up his mind.