The fortnightly Essential Research poll continues to find little separating the two major parties on the pollster’s 2PP+ measure, with the Coalition up a point on last time to 47% and Labor down two to 46%, with the remainder undecided. Labor is down a point on the primary vote to 30% while the Coalition is up one to 33%, with the Greens down one to 12%, One Nation down one to 7%, others up one to 10%, the United Australia Party steady on 1% and undecided up one to 7%.
The monthly personal ratings record a three-point drop in Anthony Albanese’s approval rating to 40% with disapproval up to 49%, his worst net result and disapproval result from this pollster so far. Peter Dutton is unchanged at 41% approval and 42% disapproval. There are also questions on the leaders’ attributes which find the biggest distinction between the two being a 74-26 split against the notion that Albanese is aggressive, compared with 50-50 for Dutton. No doubt relatedly, there is a 52-48 break in favour of Dutton as decisive – probably the most positive result for either out of eight qualities canvassed – which comes at 58-42 against for Albanese.
There are also bad signs for the government on a semi-regular national mood question, which finds a five-point increase on last month to 54% for those rating Australia as on the wrong track, with right track down four to 30%. However, a series of questions on the Coalition’s nuclear energy policy produces broadly negative results: 48% rate Dutton’s plan as “serious” compared with 52% for an alternative of “just an attempt to extend the life of gas and limit investment in large-scale renewables”, and 38% rate nuclear energy as the most expensive out of nuclear, renewables and fossil fuels, up two since April, with renewables down five to 45%. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1141.
The weekly Roy Morgan poll finds Labor’s two-party lead unchanged at 51-49, from primary votes of Labor 31.5% (steady), Coalition 36.5% (down half), Greens 13% (steady) and One Nation 4.5% (down one-and-a-half). The accompanying release notes that a preference determination based on flows at the 2022 election rather than respondent allocation produces a lead to Labor of 52.5-47.5. The poll was conducted Monday to Friday from a sample of 1708.
Loved this from last thread:
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Tuesday, July 2nd, 2024 – 11:12 pm
Comment #1164
Lars Von Trier says Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 9:16 pm
“Nuclear is the Rolls-Royce of power generation,” Mr Smith told The Australian.
And returning for a second go, nuclear is the Rolls-Royce of power generation because it’s too expensive for the vast majority of Australians. They take too long to order, cost too much to buy, running costs are too high (including insurance) and they’re ruinously expensive if something goes wrong. They’re about making a statement, not about the most cost effective tool for the job.
The reference probably came to mind because no doubt little Dickie owns a Rolls Royce…which makes him feel like a big Dickie. 😐
Also, I’ll make this observation from my Millennial focus group of one. He had to be told who Dick Smith was.
Reuters/Ipsos poll shows Michelle Obama leading Trump 50% to 39% in a hypothetical match-up for the presidential race, the only Democratic candidate to lead against him.
Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
Labour leads the Conservatives by 19% in our final poll.
Changes +/- 26-27 Jun
Westminster Voting Intention (28 June – 2 July):
Labour 41% (-1)
Conservative 22% (+3)
Reform UK 16% (-2)
Liberal Democrat 10% (-1)
Green 6% (+1)
SNP 3% (+1)
Other 2% (–)
The Coalition has split over Peter Dutton’s plan for new divestiture powers to break up major hardware and grocery retailers, with Liberal MPs saying they were ambushed over the policy and that the shake-up would force supermarket prices higher.
A debate over the policy in the Coalition joint party room lasted for up to an hour on Tuesday, with several opposition MP asking questions amid concerns it could be seen as a challenge to traditional Liberal values.
The Opposition Leader on Tuesday sought to open a new front in the cost-of-living debate and take the fight to Labor and big business by proposing the new divestiture power for major players in the supermarket and hardware sectors with turnover of more than $5bn a year.
Narrowly targeted to capture businesses such as Woolworths, Coles, Aldi and Metcash and subject to several safeguards, the policy is meant to serve as a deterrent against anti-competitive behaviour. It is intended to be used only rarely, with its existence serving as a “sword of Damocles” to help improve conduct in the sector.
Retailers exceeding the $5bn turnover threshold would also face infringement notices of up to $2m for contraventions of the food and grocery code. The maximum penalty of $10m for more harmful breaches – as recommended by Craig Emerson in his supermarket review – is endorsed under the Coalition plan.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/price-check-peter-dutton-aisle-as-liberals-split-on-big-retailers-breakup/news-story/a34234a588a862755c85dd3fdd7e4feb?amp
Holdenhillbilly @ #NaN Wednesday, July 3rd, 2024 – 6:34 am
Oh FFS. Let’s all “win the day” & pretend that reality is a fantasy football side that can run nuclear superpowers into the ground (e.g. the Fucking Tories). After November there are going to be a lot of guilty arseholes (Pom, French & Septic) buying places on submarines heading for
BrazilArgentina.And so it begins…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/02/trump-sentencing-delay-supreme-court-ruling/
MSNBC starting to talk up Kamala Harris…
https://youtu.be/pcLjHUxUBog?si=3rX0mIKrO0zTrT3S
So Biden is finally going to meet with party leaders but only after criticism over how his staff have handled this crisis, and after Democrat governors held their own meeting to discuss their concerns.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/02/biden-to-meet-with-democratic-governors/
This crisis has been so poorly handled, all we can hope now is that Team Biden can right this ship and start demonstrating he can still be a competent president in his second term. Frankly it’s a big ask.
New CNN poll shows Trump leading Biden 49% to 43% for the US presidential election.
7 pollsters conducting head to head polls entirely before and after the debate. Interesting.
I remember a few months ago how vehement some people were that trump was going to prison any second… I also remember catching some flack saying that trump is not going to be stopped by these cases, and even if he ends up incarcerated (which he wont) that still won’t stop him.
Hate to be right…
Honestly, RBG and Obama fucked up in a way that will echo for decades
#weatheronPB
Rain has left its mark.
There are puddles on the deck,
and the sky still drips.
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
In quite a strong dissertation, Paul Kelly explains why the Coalition must rethink its nuclear pitch.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/why-coalition-must-rethink-its-nuclear-pitch/news-story/f73af58f2bcd7a2e168331e0913c88c2?amp=
The Coalition’s nuclear fantasy serves short-term political objectives – and its fossil fuel backers, writes Peter Lewis. He says, “In a world where younger generations just want to get on with the job of addressing climate change, a major political party is walking away from this challenge in the interests of its corporate masters. That’s the real conspiracy. And it’s not just a theory.”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/02/coalition-nuclear-policy-peter-dutton-power-plants
Labor’s creation of memes and frequent use of jokes to critique Peter Dutton’s nuclear energy plan makes light of what should be a deeply concerning policy, Dr Michael Galvin writes.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/labor-plays-into-duttons-hands-by-ridiculing-coalition-nuclear-policy,18727
Paul Sakkal writes that supermarket and hardware giants could be forced to sell stores if they keep prices too high under a “big stick” policy designed to sharpen Peter Dutton’s attack on Labor’s handling of the inflation outbreak.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/dutton-to-supermarkets-rein-in-prices-or-we-ll-force-you-to-sell-off-stores-20240702-p5jqh1.html
But The Australian tells us the Coalition has split over Peter Dutton’s plan for new divestiture powers to break up major hardware and grocery retailers, with Liberal MPs saying they were ambushed over the policy.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/price-check-peter-dutton-aisle-as-liberals-split-on-big-retailers-breakup/news-story/a34234a588a862755c85dd3fdd7e4feb?amp=
And its Tom Dusevic says that Peter Dutton and David Littleproud have flicked the switch to the kind of junk policy you’ll usually only find in the Greens’ box of free-market atrocities.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/coalition-dips-into-greens-populist-junk-policy-bag/news-story/6879c8e8cbc1b615c65297ff35b1905d?amp=
The Australian’s pile-on continues with Eric Johnston saying Peter Dutton’s ‘big supermarkets stick’ sets a dangerous tone for business.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/economics/peter-duttons-big-supermarkets-stick-sets-dangerous-tone-for-business/news-story/080848038c1154d1480c8df149cdd54c?amp=
Chinese, French, Spanish and several big Asian companies have carved up the fast-growing large-scale solar farm development sector as they tap Australia’s booming growth in renewable energy, leaving major domestic suppliers such as AGL Energy and Origin Energy playing around the edges, explains Angela Macdonald-Smith telling us why overseas money is pouring into Australian green energy.
https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/why-overseas-money-is-pouring-into-australian-green-energy-20240628-p5jpiz
The Reserve Bank is supposed to have a handle on how the economy will perform over the next two years. Its minutes show it doesn’t. opines Shane Wright.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-only-certainty-for-your-mortgage-rate-reserve-bank-uncertainty-20240702-p5jqg9.html
Peter Martin refers to a recent article in The Economist which describes how solar power will overwhelm all other sources of electrical power by the mid-2030s. Well worth reading.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8682776/peter-martin-why-solar-power-is-set-to-dominate-global-energy-by-2040/?cs=27845
Nuclear energy proponents are attempting to discredit renewable energy and promote nuclear energy and fossil gas in its place. This article from Mark Diesendorf refutes several myths they are disseminating that are receiving little or no challenge in the mainstream media.
https://johnmenadue.com/refuting-myths-about-nuclear-and-renewable-energy/
Michael West argues that the notion of a fair go is gone amid the cost of living crisis and the transfer of wealth from workers to wealthier Australians via tax breaks for property investors and superannuation perks.
https://michaelwest.com.au/the-fair-go-has-gone-housing-crisis-and-superannuation/
Anthony Albanese’s rejection of an invitation to attend the NATO summit in Washington joins a growing list of dubious decisions, this one sacrificing geopolitics to domestic politics, says the SMH editorial.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-should-not-be-missing-in-action-from-nato-summit-20240702-p5jqek.html
The unanimous support in the Senate for the law regulating vapes was a pleasant departure from the growing polarisation in Australian politics. For some time, it appeared that the opposition was going down the path of opposing for opposing’s sake or rejecting evidence and science in favour of the commercial interests of their donors and supporters, writes Crispin Hull who tells us why regulating the sale of vapes is a positive sign for Australia’s political scene.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8680784/crispin-hull-australia-regulates-vape-sales-with-bipartisan-support/?cs=14258
Australia is likely to become a gas importer despite being a major global exporter of the fossil fuel, with experts declaring time has run out to develop new sources of supply to avert crippling shortages, report Mike Foley and Nick Toscano.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/does-gas-rich-australia-really-need-to-start-importing-it-20240702-p5jqi4.html
Despite what we’re led to believe, tax cuts are no free lunch, explains Ross Gittins.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/despite-what-we-re-led-to-believe-tax-cuts-are-no-free-lunch-20240702-p5jqfa.html
Sarah Ison and Geoff Chambers write that aged-care operators have warned that Anthony Albanese’s plan to impose criminal penalties on management will trigger an exodus of key personnel and expose them to costly compensation claims.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/aged-care-revolt-over-threat-to-introduce-criminal-penalties/news-story/ce3ca8345dfaf4af61ace2d13584edd3?amp=
A 14-year-old boy who allegedly stabbed a student at the University of Sydney threatened to carry out a mass shooting less than a year ago but charges were dropped on mental health grounds. Counterterrorism police have taken over the investigation but have not declared the incident a terrorist attack because they have not identified a specific ideology as required by legislation.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/major-police-operation-one-injured-at-university-of-sydney-20240702-p5jqdl.html
Thousands of people at a religious gathering in India rushed to leave a makeshift tent, setting off a stampede yesterday that killed more than 100 and left scores injured, officials said. What can one say about this sort of stupidity that is repeated over and over again?
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/stampede-at-religious-event-in-india-kills-more-than-100-mostly-women-and-children-20240703-p5jqmn.html
Where Tony Blair arrived at a point of hope, Keir Starmer enters at a point of despair. The excitement and pride of 1997 have given way to deep cynicism and Brexit division, writes Gary Nunn who says Brits hoping for a return to the Blair-era glory days are dreaming.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/fool-britannia-brits-hoping-for-a-return-to-the-blair-era-glory-days-are-dreaming-20240627-p5jp7y.html
Labour may win big under first past the post, but it is morally obliged to bring in a fairer system, posits Polly Toynbee.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/02/labour-first-past-the-post-tactical-voting
The Washington Post’s Aaron Blake outlines how Trump’s court victory has far-reaching implications.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/king-above-the-law-trump-s-court-victory-has-far-reaching-implications-20240702-p5jqdn.html
Trump 2.0 will pile rising expectations in Washington on Australia’s military readiness and on its strategic minerals. But that’s just the start, writes Patrick Gibbons.
https://www.afr.com/world/north-america/a-resurgent-trump-will-have-consequences-for-australia-20240702-p5jqfy
And ever since Joe Biden’s catastrophic performance at the first presidential debate on CNN, his name has popped up in nearly every list of possible successors. With just four months to go until the presidential election, chances that the president would step aside now are exceedingly remote – but that hasn’t stopped the speculation. Online political betting odds that Gavin Newsom, the California governor, would end up at the top of the presidential ticket this year tripled to a one-in-four chance last week.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/02/gavin-newsom-biden-presidential-ambitions
Donald Trump’s sentencing in his criminal hush money case has been delayed by two months, meaning the historic decision will now come just weeks before the US election.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/donald-trumps-hush-money-sentencing-set-to-be-delayed/news-story/b82dfc9d96d862387dd1688cb0c71b86
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Leak
From the US
Re the ER polling (as I have posted before, I don’t take Morgan seriously whether it shows Labor ahead or behind):
It seems to be consistent with how the people I know who are not strong Labor partisans feel about Albo and his government. They don’t hate him, but they don’t think that either he or his team are that much good at their jobs. It’s a feeling that seems to have grown since the referendum. Nobody wants to come at him with a baseball bat: indeed, most still favour his government over Dutton and the Opposition. Even the dyed-in-the-wool Libs I know who despise the ALP -particularly Prime Ministers Hawke, Keating and Gillard – don’t have much vitriol for Albo. They just describe him as mediocre and rabbit on about how bad inflation is and complain that the migrant intake is too high.
Has there every previously been a time in Australian political history when a large portion of the electorate has assessed the government as being “just ok.” Howard tried to be mediocre- just a safe pair of hands – but most voters actually perceived him to be a little untrustworthy, but helpfully cunning. Menzies bored and irritated people on the political left, but he had a certain level of charm and charisma that helped him to stay in government.
Albo is so uninspiring. And so are most of his team. Wong is being her usual graceful and impressive self. Chalmers can be engagingly tiggerish, but also sometimes comes across as a little insincere. Shorten is still Mr Smug. My sense is that the rest aren’t making all that much of an impression on ordinary people. Even all the negative stuff around Giles has faded fairly quickly (although I think Albo should still move him after parliament rises.)
Voters in general just don’t seem to care all that much about how the government is going. Fewer and fewer of the younger voters are reading the newspapers or watching the evening news bulletins. Most are almost constantly online and, at best Australian politics is just one of a wide range of issues that they are constantly following. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if a survey showed that the average 18-40 year old Australian could tell you more about US politics than our own.
I suspect that a general sense of ennui among voters is probably more helpful to the incumbent government than to the opposition. But Labor needs to keep a close watch the immigration/housing issue which is still burning away and capable of flaring up again.
And while I don’t agree with LVT that a minority government is more or less certain, I do think it is about as likely as an outright Labor win.
But I think these are unchartered waters in the history of Australian Federal politics.
Thanks BK. The cartoons are disturbing today.
Dissing Mr Dick:
“And not much of one of those anymore either. He allowed his eponymous company to be bought by American Hedge Fund cowboys who stripped it of all its assets and made off like bandits. Leaving all the workers in the shops high and dry and owed money.”
The reality:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Smith_(entrepreneur)
Fess: “This crisis has been so poorly handled, all we can hope now is that Team Biden can right this ship and start demonstrating he can still be a competent president in his second term. Frankly it’s a big ask.”
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That’s not how I see this playing out. I reckon Biden will step down from the campaign within a week or so. I appreciate that many pundits can put forward a whole lot of reasons why it couldn’t possibly happen. But I still can’t see how he can stay on.
I think a minority government is basically locked in if we reach august and they decide to hike the rate.
‘Beige’ is the word many of my acquaintances describe Albanese’s government. As in beige flag to describe the little oddities in your partner that are weird, but not enough to warrant breaking up with them.
Fess: “7 pollsters conducting head to head polls entirely before and after the debate. Interesting.”
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Well, as is often the case with US polls, they’re all over the place. But Biden needs to be +2 and possibly more to compensate for the inherent bias in the electoral college system. None of the polls are suggesting that he is anywhere near that.
And the debate was meant to be his big chance to overtake Trump. Until after it was over, when – according to his camp – it apparently never mattered at all.
I guess we’ll see. But at present there are no signs from him or his team that he has any intention of stepping aside.
Fess”‘Beige’ is the word many of my acquaintances describe Albanese’s government. As in beige flag to describe the little oddities in your partner that are weird, but not enough to warrant breaking up with them.”
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I’ve never heard the term “beige flag” before. I love it!
At present
There is no political evidence of voters going to punish Labor in first term
It will be a Labor 2nd term Majority , 80+ seats
The federal lib/nats combined primary vote is stuck at 36% likely to go lower in the next few months , and remain under 36% leading to the 2025 federal election
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-internal-poll-donald-trump-election-191998
Joe Biden is Behind in His Own Internal Poll
And he has an interview planned end of week… not live of course….
But The Australian tells us the Coalition has split over Peter Dutton’s plan for new divestiture powers to break up major hardware and grocery retailers, with Liberal MPs saying they were ambushed over the policy.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/price-check-peter-dutton-aisle-as-liberals-split-on-big-retailers-breakup/news-story/a34234a588a862755c85dd3fdd7e4feb?amp=
Imagine the headlines if Anthony Albanese had done so many captain’s calls as Opposition Leader?
‘Policy on the run!’ ‘Chaos and incompetence!’ ‘Poorly thought through policy’ (a likely stentorian line from pontificating Paul Kelly).
Instead, what do we get? ‘Bold and decisive’ when Peter Dutton does it.
Also, my first impression when I heard the Coalition’s major retailer policy announcement yesterday was that it was a Potemkin policy, because David Littleproud was at pains to telegraph to the major corporations they were apparently targeting, not really guys! They’ll huff and they’ll puff but they won’t blow your house down. In effect, as another article has pointed out, it’s just another Populist move worthy of The Greens:
And its Tom Dusevic says that Peter Dutton and David Littleproud have flicked the switch to the kind of junk policy you’ll usually only find in the Greens’ box of free-market atrocities.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/coalition-dips-into-greens-populist-junk-policy-bag/news-story/6879c8e8cbc1b615c65297ff35b1905d?amp=
No wonder the Coalition and The Greens are working together more and more every day. As the horseshoe dictates to Populist rabble rousers.
Any kind of political backlash is against the federal Lib/nats , QLD is where the federal LNP is strong , but around the nation the federal Lib/nats are going to struggle to retain a lot of the seats from the 2022 federal election
The trouble for the federal lib/nats will the seats fall to the teals more than 2022 federal election or will Labor gain more ,
I bet there’s one retail conglomerate that price gouges its customers that the Coalition will NEVER go after.
Harvey Norman.
Urgh, it gets sickening as an ex Labor voter to see the rusted on supporters using The Australian as a source to praise Labor using free market capitalist solutions…
Honestly, look at what you’ve become because you can’t say no to dear leader.
I wonder if there’s any lessons to be learnt in global events about a centre left party going too far right, alienating traditional voter bases and assuming the far right is not going to be voted for… hmmm
Joe Biden’s chief of staff, Jeff Zients, ordered White House staffers to attend an “all-staff call” on Wednesday afternoon, The Washington Post reported, citing a source who received an email about it. The outlet reported that Zients plans on emphasizing the “importance of keep doing the work and executing on our mission.” The meeting comes during a perilous time for the Biden administration, with a flurry of political analysts and some top Democrats.
If something is going to happen, you’d expect it has to be soon…
c@tmomma
The federal lib/nats will definitely not go after foreign own newsltd
Scott: “There is no political evidence of voters going to punish Labor in first term
It will be a Labor 2nd term Majority , 80+ seats
The federal lib/nats combined primary vote is stuck at 36% likely to go lower in the next few months , and remain under 36% leading to the 2025 federal election”
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I agree with your first point, but I think the only scenario in which the Coalition vote drops much below 36% is if there is a significant increase in the vote for PHON and any other right-wing minor parties: which is conceivable given the anti-immigration sentiment among some of the population at present, perhaps along with some hangover from the Voice referendum.
I think Labor will do well to retain its thin majority. I can’t see 80+ seats as being at all likely. I think the most likely scenario is that the Libs might lose a few more seats to the Teals, but will also pick up some seats in suburban Sydney, WA, Victoria and perhaps one in the NT. The “neophyte effect” will hamper them, but the redistributions will help them slightly. Even with a relatively small overall swing towards them and/or the right-wing minor parties, I reckon the Coalition could win 7 seats or more from Labor, but also lose at least 2-3 of their existing ones. This could leave the numbers at something like Labor 70, Coalition 63 and the rest on the crossbench.
Please don’t think I want this scenario to occur. I generally hate minority governments and the way in which they can provide an avenue for the more extreme parties like the Greens and PHON to exert an undue influence over governments. (The only exception to this would be what I see as the positive influence of the Tasmanian Greens back in the days when they were still an environmental party, rather than a bunch of watermelons.)
But I think majority governments are steadily ecoming a thing of the past in many countries of the world (although not the UK ATM, it would seem).
sprocket_: “If something is going to happen, you’d expect it has to be soon…”
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If everything is ok, Biden is staying on, and there is nothing that any discontents can do to get rid of him…
Then this meeting wouldn’t need to be held in the first place.
The less religious involvement in parliament the better.
Dick Smith speaks for boomers.
Most younger people wouldn’t even know who he is.
Agreed Rex. And that applies to all parties..m
Polls not looking good for Biden.
A slow and painful political death ensues…
Leak’s gone full MAGA.
Murdoch press full press now against Duttons recent moves so is Stokes media.
West Oz puts the boot into Mettam directly this morning Basil has pushed the go button.
54 percent say country going wrong it’s me thinks housing and importing of people policy which is killing labor.
NDIS and Shorten along with an increase or two with interest rates will delay any election.
Albanese is hated in the community the spin on here is laughable.
Biden should stay .
If something is going to happen, I don’t think Newsom is the answer:
he’s too glib, carries some baggage, and wouldn’t go down well in the battleground states. Whitmer, on the other hand, would I think do well.
So people are being polled as to which energy source they think is most expensive? But it’s not a matter of opinion – it’s a matter of fact. In case any bludger doesn’t know the answer (unlikely, I know), see Lazard Inc’s report on the “Levelized” (ie lifetime) Cost of Energy at https://www.lazard.com/media/gjyffoqd/lazards-lcoeplus-june-2024.pdf
Herr Doktor, from 12.27am thread
Yes for some time over a decade. It’s the obvious cure for the problems of the political system. Eventually even the slow learners will get it.
Good to see you back, always enjoy ur posts.
Mavis @ #40 Wednesday, July 3rd, 2024 – 8:26 am
Yep, even though my 5c is on Biden staying, I’d say Whitmer is a better nation wide candidate compared to Newsom. Coming from the mid west possibly gets more votes than being a female loses.
But never underestimate the Dem’s ability to self immolate.
Dems problem is no one’s gonna believe Biden gets 81 million votes this time.
So, it’s either flick him or let Trump win.
sprocket_ @ #NaN Wednesday, July 3rd, 2024 – 7:59 am
I hope for a full and frank discussion.
Mavis @ #37 Wednesday, July 3rd, 2024 – 8:18 am
While it’s tempting to blame the cartoonists, in the printed news media (I don’t know for certain because I don’t read that dogshit) there is an article/editorial with exactly that sentiment that the cartoonist is merely illustrating. That said, Leak and Spooner are usually antithetical to my views.
Should also note that, today especially, the Australian cartoonists’ work on the US situation is immeasurably better the the US cartoonists.
Jack Aranda @ #NaN Wednesday, July 3rd, 2024 – 8:30 am
Hi Jack! So good to see you again. 🙂
Mavis @ #NaN Wednesday, July 3rd, 2024 – 8:26 am
She stood up to a murder plot by the MAGAs and beat them.
On the other hand, she is a woman. And this is America where a goodly number of godly citizens still believe that a woman should be subservient to the man, and vote accordingly.
Watch this assessment by Business Insider and see what you think. I’m suddenly on the Roy Cooper train.
https://youtu.be/MHdq4KL_i2w?si=125EF7XpmflLCsqu
autocrat:
Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 8:39 am
Mavis @ #37 Wednesday, July 3rd, 2024 – 8:18 am
[‘Leak’s gone full MAGA.’]
[‘While it’s tempting to blame the cartoonists…’]
It’s more an observation than blame.
GOP celebrates immunity ruling—so long as it doesn’t apply to Biden
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/2/2250650/-GOP-celebrates-immunity-ruling-so-long-as-it-doesn-t-apply-to-Biden?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_3&pm_medium=web
MAGA GOP thinks Supreme Court immunity ruling applies only t Trump and not Biden
“While House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer shakes a fist at weaponizing the legal system for political gain, and House Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan takes a punch at “hyper-partisan prosecutors,” neither says a word about the multiple investigations Republicans have run into President Joe Biden and members of his family.
Because, of course, they don’t read this ruling as protecting the sitting president. They read it as being specific to Donald Trump.
Even as they’re cheering for how this ruling allows presidents to act now and worry about the consequences never, Republicans are still complaining that Biden is a “dictator.”
The “Biden dictatorship” has become the way that Republicans talk about the incumbent president. It both gives their base something to whine about, and helps defuse Democratic statements warning about Trump’s actions should he return to power. “
C@tmomma @ #48 Wednesday, July 3rd, 2024 – 8:43 am
Roy Cooper looks “presidential” and sounds like a Republican on TV. But I reckon the party insiders will make the call on any potential replacement.
In terms of the process (again, just an IF at the moment). The two models I can see is a month long TV campaign with a nation wide Super Tuesday, or a contested convention. I see the advantage of having it down by the Convention as you dont want a war at a set piece TV event.