Federal polls may be coming down the line shortly from Resolve Strategic in the Age/Herald and Freshwater Strategy in the Financial Review. Until then:
• The West Australian reports three potential contenders for Liberal preselection in the new seat of Bullwinkel in Perth’s eastern hinterland, which by my reckoning has a notional Labor margin of 2.9%: Matt Moran, an Afghanistan veteran and former Ten Network reporter who ran unsuccessfully for the Curtin preselection in February; Holly Ludeman, a veterinarian and activist in the campaign against a ban on live sheep exports; and Jonathan Crabtree, a commercial and estate planning lawyer who led the Senate ticket of Cory Bernardi’s Australian Conservatives in 2019. The paper earlier reported that Labor preselection would be contested by Kyle McGinn, a former Maritime Union of Australia organiser who has served in the state Legislative Council for Mining and Pastoral region since 2017, and there are suggestions the Nationals candidate will be former state party leader Mia Davies.
• InDaily reports five candidates for Liberal preselection in the regional South Australian seat of Grey, which will be vacated with the retirement of Rowan Ramsey, its member since 2007: Dean Johnson, mayor of Kimba and president of the Local Government Association; Tom Venning, Barunga Grains farming manager; Rikki Lambert, former chief-of-staff to Family First senator Bob Day; Matt Sampson, a Whyalla police officer; and Suzanne Waters, who ran in the seat for the United Australia Party in 2022.
• Nine Newspapers reports on expectations that Michelle Ananda-Rajah will run in Liberal-held Deakin or Menzies with the proposed abolition of her existing seat of Higgins, which she gained for Labor from the Liberals for the first time in the seat’s history in 2022.
• Labor has announced candidates in its Coalition-held targets in Brisbane: disability advocate Ali France in Peter Dutton’s seat of Dickson, where she also ran in 2019 and 2022; Rebecca Hack, a former school principal now of the Queensland Teachers Union, in the Greens-held seat of Ryan; and Rowan Holzberger, electorate officer to Senator Murray Watt and candidate from 2022, again to run in Forde.
The problem at the moment, good season, reduced prices. The incentive to round them up has gone.
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The incentive is to protect biodiversity and ecosystems. If some of the costs can be offset by selling, even at low prices, then by all means.
In the Flinders and Gammons (and Gawler and Olary ranges), intertwined/split with private land that is often stocked and poorly fenced, the solution is complex. In the Gammons, some of the leases have been bought up by indigenous groups and made into parks. I would very much encourage that (either bought by indigenous groups or government) in the Flinders to take out the fingers of private land. Both areas have threatened species that need protecting. Both have reintroduced quolls for example and are trying to reduce the numbers of cats and foxes. And both are jewels in Australia’s tourism crown. If the money and the will and incentives cant be found there to deal with such a destructive and large pest as goats that can be sold for meat, then what hope is there?
I would also phase in stronger rules to regulate pastoral practices on lands adjacent to parks.
‘frednk says:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 1:37 pm
Boerwar
You will never eliminate feral goats. We have just been through years where every goat you found on your property was $100. People brought properties and paid for them by shipping off the feral goats. As you have observed they have bounced back.’
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Agree. Population management of ferals only very, very rarely results in elimination. This may happen on islands where concentrated efforts over time along with the elimination of the possibility of re-introductions can help. In mainland situations elimination usually requires the provision of fencing and eliminating populations from inside the fences… and thereafter constant maintenance of fences as well as constant vigilance and prompt reactions when the fences are breached.
The management point in rangelands and arid lands would target something that is practical and affordable. The problem with goats is that they are now an economic resource which competes sporadically with, and undercuts, other management objects such as biodiversity outcomes.
OC and Lordbain are absolutely correct re age and the presidency. It was one of the most stressful and demanding jobs in the world, that it notorious for prematurely aging it’s occupants. Take a look at comparisons of Bush Jr and Obama during their campaigns for the presidency and after just a year in office, it is staggering how much older they look.
It’s quite possible that the physical and mental demands of being President of the United States has played a direct role in Biden’s apparent cognitive decline.
No, Trump obviously isn’t fit for the presidency. Thing is, he never has been. He wasn’t in the lead-up to 2016 nor during his entire first term, and that never stopped him from winning in ’16 and coming close to being reelected in 2020.
There’s big a difference between a blatantly crazy person getting even crazier and the guy whose whole brand is being the competent, dependable, experienced administrator seemingly deteriorating in front of our eyes. The latter is a whole lot more noticeable than the former.
Oakeshott Country:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 1:40 pm
A reference to my travel experience was merely anecdotal. My substantive point is that Biden’s travel & schedule more than likely affected his circadian rhythms,* the outcome of which is supported by the article I posted supra.
* https://www.sleepfoundation.org/circadian-rhythm
A neurologist called Tom Pitts was interviewed by NBC News in the United States a couple of days ago. He said that Joe Biden has a combination of physical and cognitive symptoms that constitute a classic presentation of Parkinson’s Disease. He said that there are problems with how the US President’s health is managed – all presidents should be required to undertake detailed and fairly frequent assessments of their physical and neuropsychological health that are conducted by relevant experts who are independent and impartial (in the sense that they are not friends or family members of the president and their career advancement does not depend on having the president’s favour) with the results made available for public scrutiny. This is not currently the case, which is why an obviously impaired president is allowed to avoid appropriate assessments of his health and pretend that everything is fine.
‘Team Katich says:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 1:56 pm
The problem at the moment, good season, reduced prices. The incentive to round them up has gone.
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The incentive is to protect biodiversity and ecosystems. If some of the costs can be offset by selling, even at low prices, then by all means.
In the Flinders and Gammons (and Gawler and Olary ranges), intertwined/split with private land that is often stocked and poorly fenced, the solution is complex. In the Gammons, some of the leases have been bought up by indigenous groups and made into parks. I would very much encourage that (either bought by indigenous groups or government) in the Flinders to take out the fingers of private land. Both areas have threatened species that need protecting. Both have reintroduced quolls for example and are trying to reduce the numbers of cats and foxes. And both are jewels in Australia’s tourism crown. If the money and the will and incentives cant be found there to deal with such a destructive and large pest as goats that can be sold for meat, then what hope is there?
I would also phase in stronger rules to regulate pastoral practices on lands adjacent to parks.’
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Agree. I have some particular awareness of the situation in the Gammon Ranges, including the notion of using goat income to offset other biodiversity management costs. Once again the problem is that goat income depends on international commodity prices and domestic seasons. Income based on this paired uncertainty collides with the structure of ongoing management costs for controlling other ferals such as goats and cats. Do the moggies get a bit of a management break due to current commodity prices?
‘Nicholas says:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 2:00 pm
A neurologist called Tom Pitts was interviewed by NBC News in the United States a couple of days ago. He said that Joe Biden has a combination of physical and cognitive symptoms that constitute a classic presentation of Parkinson’s Disease. He said that there are problems with how the US President’s health is managed – all presidents should be required to undertake detailed and fairly frequent assessments of their physical and neuropsychological health that are conducted by relevant experts who are independent and impartial (in the sense that they are not friends or family members of the president and their career advancement does not depend on having the president’s favour) with the results made available for public scrutiny. This is not currently the case, which is why an obviously impaired president is allowed to avoid appropriate assessments of his health and pretend that everything is fine.’
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Uh huh.
For some reason you left out Trump who is a malignant narcissist with dementia.
As you were.
As for the dipshit who tried to shoot Trump, I hope he gets the book thrown at him. There is no excuse for this kind of violence in a country that – for all the numerous flaws in its electoral system and political classes – is still a democratic nation, even when the victim is somebody as loathsome as Trump is. It’s up to the American people to stop him at the ballot box. If they don’t do so, well, that will be a pretty horrible outcome, but it’s also something that one must accept in a democracy.
And even if the dude succeeded, it would be unlikely to change a damn thing anyway. The state of the GOP at the moment is as such that whoever took the nomination in Trump’s stead would probably be even more of a nutbar.
I’m not going to venture a guess as to the electoral impacts of today’s incident, except to say that I doubt the consequences will be those the shooter hoped for. One of the virtues of democracy is that killing people is typically a very ineffective means of effecting political change.
Oakeshott Countrysays:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 1:21 pm
Entropy
it was Badthinker who made the claims about assassins and progressivism.
I think your response got tied up in mine
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Thanks, he was certainly making some crazy claims and on repeat too. I do note some people did take the herculean effort to pick apart and clean up that Augean stables of you know what.
Often the problem in cleaning up BS. Is the false statement is just an one sentence piece of garbage. While pointing out how factually incorrect it is may take a whole paragraph. Unfortunately “BT” can often string a post together with about half dozen separate fake claims.
I’m afraid you’ll have to make do with a lethal volley of bullets.
Interesting eliminating pest animals ,feral cats via a camera programmed-AI? – to recognise them then spits out cat poison.Goats any other species can be controlled potentially not elimated with this approach.
Already happening in Australia.
Err the person who tried to shoot trump according to one witness had quote”their head blown off”.
Abc Australia couple of reporters covering trump today said they were directed to go upstairs at a pub to watch trump speech outdoors.No check if they had weapons they said on news radio.
It looks like the shooter is a young man called Thomas Matthew Crooks. aged 20.
https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/us-news/thomas-matthew-crooks-idd-as-gunman-who-shot-trump-during-pa-rally/
Nicholas:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 2:00 pm
[‘A neurologist called Tom Pitts was interviewed by NBC News in the United States a couple of days ago. He said that Joe Biden has a combination of physical and cognitive symptoms that constitute a classic presentation of Parkinson’s Disease.’]
Reference thereof is drawn to the Goldwater Rule, which although only pertains to psychiatrists, allied professionals should nonetheless be aware of the dangers of diagnosing from afar.
https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/goldwater-rule
Nicholas
Biden’s most medical assessment was released recently, as was a statement from the White House Medical Centre on the visits from a Parkinsons expert. So you don’t believe those records but you parrot a talking head who has *not* assessed the President?
‘Asha says:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 1:58 pm
OC and Lordbain are absolutely correct re age and the presidency. It was one of the most stressful and demanding jobs in the world, that it notorious for prematurely aging it’s occupants. Take a look at comparisons of Bush Jr and Obama during their campaigns for the presidency and after just a year in office, it is staggering how much older they look.
It’s quite possible that the physical and mental demands of being President of the United States has played a direct role in Biden’s apparent cognitive decline.
No, Trump obviously isn’t fit for the presidency. Thing is, he never has been, not in the lead-up to 2016 nor during is entire first term, and that never stopped him from winning in ’16 and coming close to being reelected in 2020.
There’s big a difference between a blatantly crazy person getting even crazier and the guy whose whole brand is being the competent, dependable, experienced administrator seemingly deteriorating in front of our eyes. The latter is a whole lot more noticeable than the former.’
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I agree with most of this. However, IMO, the key element about Trump is missing from your post.
The key thing is that Trump has progressive dementia. This is different from Biden’s symptoms of ageing which we will all, provided we live long enough, exhibit.
It is different because dementia is a progressive clinical condition unrelated to the ageing process per se. There are plenty of videos online in which neurologists and psychologists (heads of psychology departments in the top tier of either hospital systems or universities) itemize the various symptoms of Trump’s dementia. By and large the MSM finds itself comfortable with obsessing over Biden’s ageing gaffes while skirting Trump’s dementia. An example of a key difference is that Biden knows the difference between Putin and Zelenskyi and will self-correct. Trump has on eight difference occasions told audiences that he is campaigning against President Obama because he believes he is campaigning against Obama. He conflates personalities. He conflates dates. He says things like his father was born in Germany. He conflates stories. Haley was in charge of security at the White House. These states are not a matter of something we all do – misnaming someone. Hannibal Lecter IS a wonderful person is a classic recent example of mixing up dates. Trump’s states are delusional.
These states are clearly different from some of the policy ideas that Trump has: bombing hurricanes with nuclear bombs, injecting bleach to beat Covid, building a 2000 mile moat between Mexico and the US and filling it with alligators and snakes and numerous other crack pot ideas. They are not delusional but a mountain of evidence that show that Trump is plain stupid.
The unfortunate prospect here is that as Trump’s dementia progresses (and it is progressing at an accelerating rate) it will liberate Trump from the current constraints on his malignant narcissism.
On a brighter note.
I had heard about the Tarcowie Landcare Group. I drove through briefly, heading up from Laura to the Flinders, and was amazed. So much effort. Such reward. Well done to those people.
https://www.facebook.com/TarcowieLandcareGroupInc/
OMG, how are peoples reading comprehensions so lacking that ANY criticism of Biden needs to be accompanied with BUT ALSO TRUMP.
Hell, thats ignoring that in the most recent example of this the person making the claim ignores that OC and myself did explicitly refer to Trump…
It may come as a shock, but whataboutism is hardly persuasive…
I’m not sure why every discussion of Joe Biden’s health needs to be accompanied by a discussion of Donald Trump’s health. Joe Biden’s functional decline is alarming and consequential regardless of whether Trump struggles to organise his thoughts and express himself coherently and accurately, and regardless of whether Trump is unable to use complex sentence structures and discuss topics in a nuanced and thoughtful way. I happen to agree that Donald Trump shows a lack of fitness in all of those domains but that doesn’t reduce the relevance of Joe Biden’s health issues.
‘Pied piper says:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 2:12 pm
Interesting eliminating pest animals ,feral cats via a camera programmed-AI? – to recognise them then spits out cat poison.Goats any other species can be controlled potentially not elimated with this approach.
Already happening in Australia.
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I would be deeply interested in a link to a current situation where an AI programmed camera recognizes cats and then spits out cat poison.
Nicholas says:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 2:19 pm
For some reason you left out Trump who is a malignant narcissist with dementia.
As you were.
I’m not sure why every discussion of Joe Biden’s health needs to be accompanied by a discussion of Donald Trump’s health. …’
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Nobody is saying that every discussion of Joe Biden’s health needs to be accompanied by a discussion of Donald Trump’s health.
Nor should every discussion of Trump’s malignant narcissim and progressive dementia should necessarily be accompanied by a discussion of Biden’s health.
But the context here is that both the MSM generally and Bludger in particular seem to be very keen to focus on Biden’s health while being generally neglectful of Trump’s health.
William Bowe:
Oh, he was killed during the attempt?Well, that makes sense, I guess.
‘Team Katich says:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 2:18 pm
On a brighter note.
I had heard about the Tarcowie Landcare Group. I drove through briefly, heading up from Laura to the Flinders, and was amazed. So much effort. Such reward. Well done to those people.
https://www.facebook.com/TarcowieLandcareGroupInc/‘
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Yep. I have a bit to do with a couple of Landcare Groups. They make a real difference on the ground. The main problems seem to be uncertain government funding streams, increasing levels of paperwork and an ageing volunteer base.
nadia88:“Federal investigators have tentatively identified the man who shot at Trump today in Pennsylvania: He is about 20 and is from Pennsylvania, according to five senior U.S. law enforcement officials briefed on the matter.”
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And probably not a Quaker (because they eschew violence) or Amish (because they eschew modern technology, like high-powered guns).
So that will narrow it down a bit.
Abc article online 15 May 2024 about camera triggering poison.
Called “Felixers”.
Badthinker wrote, “Ronnie Reagan was the other President shot by a Left Wing nutjob.
Fortunately, he survived.
So, that’s all the Centrists and Republican Presidents shot.
Now, let’s examine the assassins>
John Wilkes Booth, luvvie actor, shot Abraham Lincoln
Leon Coglosz, [shot McKinley], anarchist, associate of Emma Glodman, Communist
Leee Harvey Oswald, communist nutjob, shot JFK
John Hinckley, nutjob, possible communist [shot Ronnie]
Charles Guiteau, leftist fruitlcake, member of the Oneida community, shot Garfield in 1881.
Squeaky Fromme, enviro nutjob, pointed loaded gun at Gerald Ford.
Leftism, it’s Mental Illness, now some Antifa has killed one person, possibly more, winged Trump.”
Congratulations. I don’t think any other person has managed to write as much unadulterated crap in such a short space of time as you have. Fascism does strange things to people clearly!
How will being so close to death affect Trump psychologically ?
[‘Matthew Flinders, the flute-playing, cat-loving explorer who circumnavigated Australia, is going home – but what of his envoy Bungaree?’]
https://www.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/jul/13/matthew-flinders-body-rediscovered-buried-donington
The gunman who attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump Saturday has been identified as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, sources told The Post.
Crooks, who is from Bethel Park in Pennsylvania, fired at Trump at an outdoor rally in Butler, just outside Pittsburgh.
Sources said Crooks was planted on a roof of a manufacturing plant more than 130 yards away from the stage at Butler Farm Show grounds.
His identity comes as the FBI formally confirmed the incident as an assassination attempt.
Kevin Rojek, special agent in charge of the FBI Pittsburgh field office, said the grounds remained an “active crime scene”.
Badthinker
Thanks for the link. This looks good!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-13/robot-trap-ai-feral-cat-control-wet-tropics/101951204
Rex: Trump survived which will only increase his self-perception as being the chosen one.
This already bad situation now feels so much worse for so many reasons I’m lost for words
People here focus on Biden’s health more than Trump’s because:
A) Most of us at least loosely align with the broad centre-left side of politics, and therefore are all horrified at the thought of Trump being reelected and want the Democrats to win in November.
and
B) It’s been blindingly obvious for nearly a decade to anybody with functioning braincells that Trump is out of his fucking mind and not remotely fit for any kind of public office, let alone the presidency, whereas there is genuine disagreement here about whether Biden can handles the rigours of a presidential campaign or four more years in the White House.
We don’t need to convince anybody that Trump is nuts. Anybody who doesn’t already know that is too stupid to bother conversing with about the subject.
This reminds me of the discussion that periodically pops here whenever there’s some sort of revelation about branch stacking or corruption or within the ALP, and a bunch of people suddenly all pipe in with “But what about when the Liberals did the same thing???” Yes, thank you, I know the Liberals are shit. The difference is that I actually want the ALP to be electable and have the capacity to implement good policy, whereas if the Liberals or the Nationals or whoever wants to piss off their base and / or the general electorate, they have my full support in the endeavour.
‘Mavis says:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 2:31 pm
[‘Matthew Flinders, the flute-playing, cat-loving explorer who circumnavigated Australia, is going home – but what of his envoy Bungaree?’]
https://www.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/jul/13/matthew-flinders-body-rediscovered-buried-donington‘
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I thought the article was rather kind to Flinders, with his warts mostly carefully removed. I did think it interesting that Bungaree and Trim were both exempt from normal officer/crew relationship rules. One hopes that the organising principle varied a tad.
Hh
Trump is a con man. He’s not deluded or stupid.
A near death experience can affect some people more than others.
I think the next few weeks will be fascinating watching his behaviour.
Rex:
The man is a total narcissist, so possibly not much at all.
swapping Biden out for someone else just got more difficult.
if you were an ambitious Dem would you volunteer to be swapped in for Biden after today ?
Yep it’s official. The bullet clipped Trump’s right ear.
For those who wanted Trump dead…in your very best Maxwell Smart voice “missed it by that much”.
I think hatred may turn more towards sympathy now for Trump. More Trump supporters will vote.
If you didn’t think the election was over after the debate, it is now!
The founding fathers decided to set a lower age limit of 35 on the US President but left the upper age limit open. Perhaps the lower life expectancy in 1788 meant that cognitive deterioration was not such an obvious impairment.
How about a quick amendment – the president must be between 35 and 70 at the time of first inauguration?
Baltimore Oriole @ #215 Sunday, July 14th, 2024 – 12:49 pm
Wait until you see the NSW State Labor Conference in a couple of week’s time.
Trump’s dementia is not something that has been around for decades. His malignant narcissim is lifelong, true. His propensity to suggest lunatic policies is also a consistent element.
However, Trump’s dementia is a relatively recent and growing element in any consideration of his fitness to be president. We are not talking stupid, nasty and nutty.
We are talking malignant narcissism combined with delusional. There is a big, big, big difference between then and now.
Any consideration of Biden’s conditions MUST include a complete consideration of Trump’s condition.
The key difference between ageing and dementia should be at the pointy end of any conversation about the presidency campaign.
How much pressure must the docs be under to say the wound was from a bullet?
Asha @ #285 Sunday, July 14th, 2024 – 2:38 pm
At the risk of invoking Godwin’s Law, Hitler survived at least 23 assassination attempts.
The failure of each allegedly led him to believe that he was protected by “providence” – Trump’s toadies are already claiming he was saved by God.
Centre @ #288 Sunday, July 14th, 2024 – 2:38 pm
You could also look at it from the other perspective that Democratic Party voters may now become more determined to turn up to vote Trump out. That being the only alternative open to people now it seems.
‘Oakeshott Country says:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 2:39 pm
The founding fathers decided to set a lower age limit of 35 on the US President but left the upper age limit open. Perhaps the lower life expectancy in 1788 meant that cognitive deterioration was not such an obvious impairment.
How about a quick amendment – the president must be between 35 and 70 at the time of first inauguration?’
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Haha. Given the ages of the current candidates, and a Supreme Court that lets you stay around until you die I am not optimistic of it getting up any time soon.
meher babasays:
Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 2:28 pm
nadia88:“Federal investigators have tentatively identified the man who shot at Trump today in Pennsylvania: He is about 20 and is from Pennsylvania, according to five senior U.S. law enforcement officials briefed on the matter.”
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And probably not a Quaker (because they eschew violence) or Amish (because they eschew modern technology, like high-powered guns).
So that will narrow it down a bit.
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If we add this information, 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks.
I’m going to rule out him being Ukrainian too. Which will obviously disappoint at least one poster.
Rex:
He’s all three of those things, actually.
Yes, he absolutely has a certain rat cunning and a talent to appeal to our worse angels that has allowed him to grift investors and amass the cultish devotees he has now, but it stuns me that anybody could listen to the man speak and not realise that he is both a total moron and a textbook example of extreme narcissism.
OC
Is there evidence that Hitler’s resort to various medications was in any way a reflection of his fears of being assassinated?
Trump has progressive and accelerating dementia.
Let’s hope that Dutton, who is applying Trump’s playbook, leaves that page out.
Catmomma
I don’t think Democrat voters could’ve been any more determined to vote. Maybe the hatred in some Democrat voters may ease?
Boerwar @ #294 Sunday, July 14th, 2024 – 2:44 pm
Absolutely. I recently saw the play RBG, which I thought might turn her into a secular saint. Much of it was along those lines but the end showed how utterly foolish she was to destroy her own legacy by allowing the court to be overrun by RWNJs while hanging on when riddled with cancer.
If you included in my proposed amendment the Australian model of High Court judges retiring at 70, it would be the only time that the Supreme Court seriously considered human rights