The fortnightly Essential Research poll is one of the more encouraging sets of recent polling numbers for Labor, finding them up three on the primary vote to 32% with the Coalition up one to 34%, the Greens down two to 11%, One Nation down one to 7%, and the undecided component steady at 7%. Labor has its nose back in front on the pollster’s 2PP+ measure, up one to 47% with the Coalition down two to 46% and the remainder undecided. Anthony Albanese also improves on the monthly leadership ratings, up three on approval to 43% and down three on disapproval to 46%, while Peter Dutton is up one on approval to 42% and down one on disapproval 41%.
Also featured are some particularly interesting results on US politics, including a finding that Donald Trump was viewed more favourably in the survey period than he had been after the 2020 election (but before January 6). Trump was viewed favourably by 36% and unfavourably 56%, compared with 20% and 72% in 2020, and 23% felt Australia’s relationship with the United States would improve under Trump compared with 37% who felt it would worsen, the corresponding results last time being 7% and 63%.
A very occasional series of questions on unions suggests they are strongly supported, with 64% rating them important to working people today and 26% rating them unimportant, respectively up four points and two points, and a 63-37 split recorded in favour of them being good for the economy over bad. A third of respondents felt Labor was too close to the unions, another third felt the balance was about right, 10% thought they weren’t close enough, and the remainder weren’t sure. Labor scored higher than the Coalition on a series of questions involving the rights of workers, including a slight edge on the question of “ensuring unions are operating ethically”, with Labor favoured by 27% and the Coalition favoured by 23%. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1137.
The weekly Roy Morgan poll has Labor leading 50.5-49.5 on its respondent-allocated two-party measure, and by 51-49 when it applies preference flows from 2022. The primary votes are Labor 30.5% (down one), Coalition 37.5% (down two), Greens 13% (steady) and One Nation 6.5% (up one-and-a-half). The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1652.
Butcher
The world’s housing crisis is heading for a permanent fix within a generation or so.
From thence the global population will be in decline.
The problem will be what to do with all the empty houses.
In the interim, there are enough tourism dwellings in Australia to immediately fix the housing crisis.
Alternatively, as per the general rule in the 1950’s in Australia, every bedroom could have someone living in it. ATM there are millions of empty bedrooms in Australia.
Alternatively, Australians could return to the per capita housing space we had in the 1950’s. There would be scads of spare houses.
Alternatively, Australia could stop taking in asylum seekers and refugees. This would free up housing for around 600,000 people.
All of those alternatives are cumulative.
It is a pity that Bell isn’t into a bit of in-depth analysis.
It is also a pity that the Greens have only one rule: slag Labor at every opportunity.
IMO, both approaches are about as useless as tits on a bull.
The Greens are, with the help of Dutton, currently blocking investment on the housing supply side.
Hypocrisy mit cheap shots. Bandt is Dutton’s Toolie. And it is working. The Coalition and PHON are, between them, up around 4.4% in the polling.
Well done, Adam, you Coalition rope-a-dope!
‘Holdenhillbilly says:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 6:17 pm
The Greens has provided the use of office space to a group that publicly asserts Israel has “no right to exist”…’
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Genocidal?
Ta C@t.
Glad you and the family landed on your feet with your recent move.
Best wishes.
The Greens are becoming more and more extreme. Do our federal Greens MPs support the assertion that Israelis leave Israel? If so, where do our Greens MPs think Israelis should go?
G’day everyone. Surprisingly little comment today on Albo’s comments at Garma re Makarrata. Has William imposed a moratorium on the topic?
At one level, I find Albo’s current position re makarrata quite bewildering. He seems to be saying that his government never promised to set up a Makarrata Commission, even though $5.8 million was appropriated in the 2023 Budget for this purpose. It’s a particularly audacious attempt at spin on his part, and he has been fairly criticised for it by Dutton, but that criticism of course lacks authenticity, given that everybody knows that Dutton couldn’t give a toss whether or not there ever is a Makarrata Commission.
However, having criticised him for being very economical with the truth, I have to say that I understand why Albo wants to be a bit cautious about what he commits to in regard to makarrata, given that there now seems to be a clamouring in some circles for the Makarrata Commission to be first and foremost about “truth-telling.” As I have posted in the past, I think there is a great deal of risk in the “truth-telling” concept, which is likely to descend into unhelpful culture warfare: the very opposite of makarrata. I think enough of the truth is already known to those non-Indigenous people with eyes to see it and ears to hear it. And the rest of the population isn’t going to be swayed by a whole lot of personal and family stories which will be constantly critiqued and contradicted by the political right (and probably not unjustifiably so in some cases, as oral history accounts are notoriously unreliable). I understand that the process would potentially be cathartic for many Indigenous people, but I fear that it would only add to the mistrust and disunity that was stirred up during the campaign for the Voice referendum. And it would be a process that would emphasise negative things from the past rather than a positive way forward.
IMO, the key fact in the story of Indigenous people since 1788 is that they were dispossessed of their land – often brutally – without any sort of negotiation or treaty process. Hence I think the priority is for Indigenous and non-Indigenous leaders to start negotiating something tangible which, of course, would involve us non-Indigenous folk handing over substantial amounts of the stolen land and resources to Indigenous communities across the nation. I believe that a large majority of non-Indigenous people could be persuaded of the justice of such an outcome, if they could be reassured that any settlement reached will be a lasting one, and will genuinely help large numbers of Indigenous people to lead better, healthier and more fulfilling lives.
Of course it will require strong leadership on both sides: especially on the non-Indigenous side. And it will require buy-in from some leaders of the political right. These things won’t be easy to achieve, but we must try.
I look forward to Nine/ SMH taking a balanced unbiased view on how City of Sydney has been administered by Clover Moore… so far their usual bias & superficiality has come to the fore….
‘The cracks are starting to show’: Meet the young guns taking on Clover Moore.
So far all they can talk about is maggots in the bins… surely the SMH’s developers masters can find something else
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/the-cracks-are-starting-to-show-meet-the-young-guns-taking-on-clover-moore-20240801-p5jyic.html
Meher:
I don’t believe there is a moratorium on Garma, just that as per usual nobody wants to talk about Aboriginal self determination and sovereignty.
The concept of truth telling has been successful in the past, and I see no reason why it can’t be helpful going forward.
Re the Whitlam quote:
There are two books (books.google search) with the title The Wit of Whitlam – one published in 2014 and edited by James Carleton and one published in 1976 and compiled by Deane Wells. The relevant quote appears on page 46 of the earlier version (snippet view only)
From both books:
“Not all Papua New Guineans were in favour of independence. On one trip a prominent local man told Gough, ‘I am like a little boy at my mother’s breast. You want to cast me off.’
‘A baby does not say when it is time to come off the breast – mother decides.’”
Here is the link to the 2014 version (limited preview)
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=FjrZBQAAQBAJ&pg=PT26&dq=%22Mother+decides+%22+intitle:The+intitle:Wit+intitle:of+intitle:Whitlam&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwidzMO18dqHAxVaFTQIHTLwO9QQuwV6BAgIEAc#v=onepage&q=%22Mother%20decides%20%22%20intitle%3AThe%20intitle%3AWit%20intitle%3Aof%20intitle%3AWhitlam&f=false
Thank God, we settled the Whitlam quote.
I was readying myself for a badthinker style scourging on here.
Sceptic @ #1006 Sunday, August 4th, 2024 – 6:44 pm
As someone who lives in the City of Sydney I’m happy with how Moore has steered the ship, but am uncomfortable with some of her decisions and these lead me to concur that she needs to step down.
For instance, instead of dismissing out of hand her councillors concern about asbestos in garden mulch, she could have ordered an investigation into the issue, saving the council and ratepayers hundreds of thousands of dollars when it turned out that the City used asbestos ridden mulch in its gardens. This resulted in key events (Mardi Gras) being cancelled, unsightly ticker tape deployed across all parks in the city, and people not being able to use their local parks because of the risk.
The garbage collection was a real issue. City of Sydney has numerous apartments which rely on regular bin collection. I’ve lived in apartments since arriving in Sydney, and the failure of the council to regularly remove our rubbish has seen the rubbish rooms in my current and former buildings overflowing with rubbish.
And finally, Oxford St. wtf is happening with Oxford St? It used to be a destination and is now a disaster. Moore continues to say it’s a work in progress and points to George St as her crowning glory. But it’s been a work in progress for aeons, and there’s been no measurable improvements in the precinct for the time I’ve lived in Sydney which is 3 years. Perhaps it does need fresh leadership to give it the kick start it requires.
People could not be convinced in large enough numbers to support the Voice, doubt enough people would in the near to medium term future support a treaty with Aboriginal people which handed over control of land and resources to a small subset of the population. The Government should have worked out after the referendum that it has little hope of gaining public support for this sort of proposal if at the same time issues around economic justice effecting everyone are unaddressed and left to get worse. It’s easy for people in a relatively privileged and sheltered position to call for a treaty but most people aren’t and are not going to be in a mood to support it if they themselves feel neglected.
I see that there are still some posters who have not the faintest understanding of what the Coalition ground plan is with respect to truth, justice, treaty or settlement.
Here are some of Dutton’s more egregious Voice lies:
1. The Voice comes out of the Canberra Bubble and not from Indigenous people around Australia.
2. Indigenous people do not support the Voice.
3. The Voice will require thousands of public servants.
4. The Voice will cost billions.
5. The Voice is a threat to Australian democracy.
6. The Voice is an Albanese Vanity Project.
7. The Commonwealth Solicitor General advised against the wording.
8. The Voice will be a ‘new arm of the government’.
9. The Liberal Alternative Legislated Voice will be (local and regional). Not ‘national’ as he informed his Party Room .
10. Albanese wants to silence people and depict them as ‘racist’.
Lars Von Triersays:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 6:58 pm
Thank God, we settled the Whitlam quote.
I was readying myself for a badthinker style scourging on here.
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Don’t go the hyperbole. I supported your claim because i remembered something similar to that too. Badthinker cops it because he posts unadulterated BS at times and never takes it back, even when shown to be wrong.
Whilst we continue to elect white supremacist/corporate controlled Govt’s, there will never be truth and treaty resolutions with indigenous Australian’s.
Ronzysays:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 6:56 pm
Re the Whitlam quote:
There are two books (books.google search) with the title The Wit of Whitlam – one published in 2014 and edited by James Carleton and one published in 1976 and compiled by Deane Wells. The relevant quote appears on page 46 of the earlier version (snippet view only)
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Thanks for that Ronzy. The book i had remembered it from was the 1976 one. Which i inherited from my Grandma but my brother has now borrowed.
Just caught up with insiders after a terribly unsuccessful day out fishing.
Man what a weak interview that was. Albo spinning like a Katherine wheel, but surely his promise to implement the Uluru statement has to be called a broken promise now
The statement quite clearly calls for a makaratta commission and now Albo is trying to claim that this amorphous process that’s underway is the same thing , and he’d already fobbed treaty off to the states
Most shocking and heartbreaking were the statistics on the increase in the indigenous suicide rate , a truly terrible circumstance
Although I am curious as to whether Dutton would even be welcome at Garma, were he so inclined (he isn’t)
It takes a bit of gall to turn up to Garma with another broken promise.
Confessions says:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 6:59 pm
The most important issue in the City of Sydney is the planning laws, under Clover the standard of planning has significantly improved, planning decisions are professionally handled & free of political influence. I would hazard a guess.. better than any city in Australia.
Clover looks to Northern Europe for example & advice.. under Labor or Liberal it will revert to the usual corrupt developer driven debacle evident in the rest of Sydney… you will note there has never been an accusation of corruption in planing under Clover. I say this as a Labor voter.
Out of interest, which pollies are at Garma this year?
Support for the Voice went south once Dutton entered the fray. Had he not acted as a spoiler for political gain it would have most likely got up. That’s not to dismiss the poorly prosecuted “Yes” case.
Griff:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 7:22 pm
[‘Out of interest, which pollies are at Garma this year?’]
I saw the new & previous Minister for Indigenous Australians there.
Fess: “The concept of truth telling has been successful in the past…”
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If you mean the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission, I think that was a rather unique circumstance that would be difficult to repeat. In that case, the old regime had kept extensive, but secret, records of the things that it had done to anti-Apartheid activists and others. So, once the archives were opened up, the truth was relatively easy to determine and the main focus was on the reconciliation bit.
The situation re Indigenous people is more complex, as was demonstrated by the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody of 1987-1991. A large number of indigenous people, including many of the families of the young men who had died, were expecting the Commission to reveal the truth that their deaths were the result of intentional and premeditated acts of police brutality. In the end, the Commission did not determine that any of the 99 cases it looked at were caused by deliberate actions on the part of police officers. (They had some pretty stern things to say about the case of John Pat in Roebourne, WA, but the Commission only came to that case after the five police officers involved had been charged with manslaughter and found not guilty by a jury.) Many Indigenous people were (and still are) devastated by the outcomes of the Commission.
I fear that a truth-telling process in relation to makarrata could be similarly disappointing for Indigenous people. I doubt very much that there are any hidden government records that will tell a worse story than those which have already been told. As I said in my last post, I would expect there to be lot of evidence presented based on personal stories and oral history that has been handed down across the generations.
And, unless there is a blanket policy of accepting all such evidence as being unquestionably true, the process is going to find that a lot of the oral testimony will be impossible either to prove or disprove conclusively. And all the stories presented are going to be critiqued by opponents of the process, who will no doubt find inconsistencies and errors in some of them, thereby potentially discrediting the whole exercise in the minds of many ordinary people.
Like the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody, I fear that the truth-telling process could end up being more demoralising than uplifting for Indigenous people. As Albo said today, it might be better for everyone to start focusing on a positive future rather than a negative past.
Mavis says:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 7:26 pm
Griff:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 7:22 pm
[‘Out of interest, which pollies are at Garma this year?’]
I saw the new & previous Minister for Indigenous Australians there.
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Thanks Mavis. I suspect the Coalition have decided to sit this one out. I wonder about the Teals and the Greens. Perhaps there is an alternative dialogue? Or is it all too hard? Obviously these questions come from ignorance, but willing to learn.
Confessions says:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 6:59 pm
WTF happened to Oxford Street.. as usual incompetent developers happened..
In the first instance the decline started before Clover was around.. ..
Darlinghurst Business Partnership president Stephan Gyory said Oxford street had faced serious challenges since it was turned into a “six-lane traffic sewer” almost 20 years ago.
The error Clover may have made on Oxford street was trusting in the compliance of the Developer & leasing the three blocks to one developer. It appears the developer sacked the original builder.. heavens knows if the replacement builder will perform
Dutton would use any move on Makarrata or Treaty as an excuse for culture-warring. His Big Money masters don’t want a bar of it and his base is assimilationist or racist. It can be done. Keating got Mabo done and it survived Howard. But it’s going to need to be done carefully, with a strategy to predict and neutralise or circumvent the inevitable lies and bad-faith opposition.
It’s a project for Albo’s second term.
Well I’ve just given you several examples of how Moore has taken her eye off the ball and we residents have borne the consequences. You may not believe that these things matter, but people have grouched about them, and they are issues in our city.
Moore has embraced the state Labor planning changes with respect to housing density so I’m not sure what you’re alluding to. Insofar as you claim that this is better than any city in Australia, I’d point you to Alannah MacTiernan, former Planning Minister in the Gallop Labor govt 20 odd years ago who was doing this kind of 15 minute city long before Moore was.
Do you live in the city?
“Offered a way forward, without committing to a way forward”
Seems an apt description…
The “City of Sydney” over which Ms Moore reigns is an area about 4- 8 km across around the Sydney CBD in which about 4% of Sydney’s population reside.
Someone above claimed if we stop taking in asylum seekers and refugees it would free up 600, 000 houses in Australia Bollocks. Just like Credlin claiming recently that ,”polls show that 70% of Palestinians support Hamas and approve the October 6 attack on Israel,”. Therefore we have imported 2000 ,+ Palestinian refugees and Islamist terrorism with it. Again, complete bollocks. Dutton in his budget speech said he would reduce immigration by only 40,000 more than what Labor has committed to do. But he would also get the Bunnings colour chart out again and try again to go back to the white Australia policy that Gough finished off completely with the anti discrimination act in 1975 . Dutton does not want humanitarian immigration policy so he blames refugees and asylum seekers for our housing woes. Typical Liberal mind set.
https://youtu.be/gULwo17MKtM?si=E07sKWvY9_wpwj3j
Tony Burke excellent on Sky this morning. Labor people are breathing a sigh of relief I suspect. Imagine if Albo could speak concisely for 20 minutes straight. I couldn’t get through his Insiders interview.
Dutton confirmed today that he’s not interested in truth telling.
Sandman
Australia has around 600,000 refugees. They all live in houses.
I support both.
The Greens are quoting a judge who is using his 1950’s experience to Greensplain housing issues.
Pure arsehattery.
My point is that the Greens’ pants are on fire when it comes to housing policy.
Confessions says:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 7:40 pm
Do you live in the city?
Yes I do & as an Architect that deals with councils around the City of Sydney I can say they are the most professional & efficient to deal with.. They adhere to their planning rules without fear or favour.
I would hazard guess they have approved more medium/ high density housing than any council.
The planning standards they implement have resulted in the best urban design in Australia.
The NSW Government would do well to follow their model .. look what has happened in Parramatta.. it is beyond recoverable
Once again, BW is a lying liar who lies.
Stats (outdated from 2020 but I somehow doubt BWs asspull stats are accurate.) sourced from Refugee Council of Australia.
Rent is the greatest single expense that people are facing. Of the agencies surveyed, the clients that they are supporting had weekly rents that averaged between $200-$350 per week. As people were let go from casual work (as employers could not access JobKeeper for employees who were people seeking asylum on temporary visas), they quickly used up any savings to pay their rent.
Over 88% of people seeking asylum asking for assistance from the service agencies and charitable groups had difficulty paying rent due to COVID-19.
Of the thousands of people seeking asylum and accessing support from these groups, 56% are currently at risk of being evicted from their homes, and the groups estimate that 55% are at risk of homelessness (living on the streets). Over 14% are already currently experiencing homelessness (in a car, on the streets or in emergency accommodation).
That took less then 2 minutes to find…
600,000 refugees does not equate to 600 000 houses. Just sayin
Boerwarsays:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 7:06 pm
I see that there are still some posters who have not the faintest understanding of what the Coalition ground plan is with respect to truth, justice, treaty or settlement.
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Labor is in Govt.
What’s the next step?
Steve777 says:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 7:46 pm
The City of Sydney has a population density of 8600/ m2. Urban Sydney has a density of 2000/m2.
Amsterdam’s density is 5000/m2
Clover’s professionals should have been in charge of greater Sydneys planning eons ago.. Commitment to lowering carbon footprint & providing sustainable quality planning has been the key.
The Daily Telegraph has been trying to get rid of Clover Moore since she was elected Lord Mayor 20 years ago. However, the voters of the City of Sydney don’t pay any attention to the Telecrap.
She intends standing for a sixth term in this year’s NSW LGA elections.
‘Sandman says:
Sunday, August 4, 2024 at 8:05 pm
600,000 refugees does not equate to 600 000 houses. Just sayin’
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True. It equates to housing for 600,000 people.
In 2023 Australia recognised 14,000 refugees and resettled 15,000 which was 1.04 % of all refugee resettlements world wide. I think we are capable of finding other ways of addressing our housing crisis without scapegoating benefactors of humanitarian refuge in Australia. Or am I deluded ?
Indigenous leaders are coming out from Garma expressing concern that they feel Albo is back peddling on indigenous affairs.
And Dutton remains his usual race baiting self.
Not good signs from the big 2 parties…
Australians first .
Dutton and crew have no interest in indigenous people whatsoever.
Top 4 AFL ladder:
Sydney, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, GWS.
4 interstate teams. I don’t think that has ever happened before.
(Pretty sure it’s Dan Andrews’ fault!)
People missing the point on immigration, it’s the low income/low english students that are the primary issue, with below average wage “skilled workers” a close second. Both groups largely end up in low pay jobs that pull down the national average (and lower productivity).
Massively cut back on the students and workers, which could free up some space for more refugees.
MABWM
And Geelong fifth and Fremantle sixth.
Melbourne teams off pace.
Though I’m keeping a keen eye on the Bulldogs
”Dutton and crew have no interest in indigenous people whatsoever.”
Their Big Mining and Agribusness backers are opposed to anything that might strengthen First Nations’ profile and negotiating position.
Their base are either hostile or indifferent to First Nations people. They want them to go away, to assimilate or disappear into the fringes, they don’t care.
Any discussion on housing that doesnt address the forces that incentivise housing as an investment/commodity is a waste of time.
No one knows what makaratta means but the ALP budgeted $5 million to spend on one – maybe.
Man, what a week for Labor… backing down on the findings of the RC Disabilities and now backing down on Makaratta…