Freshwater Strategy: 51-49 to Coalition (open thread)

Little change on voting intention in the monthly Freshwater Strategy poll, which also includes a question on Anthony Albanese’s property purchase.

The monthly Freshwater Strategy poll in the Financial Review has the Coalition with a lead of 51-49, a slight improvement for Labor on a 52-48 result last time. The primary votes are all but entirely unchanged, with Labor steady on 30%, the Coalition down one to 41% and the Greens steady on 13%. Despite the headline result, the changes on personal ratings favour the Coalition, with Anthony Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister narrowing from 45-41 to 44-43. Peter Dutton is up three on approval to 37% and up one on disapproval to 39%, while Anthony Albanese is up one to 35% and steady on 49%. The poll also got in quick with a question on the Prime Minister’s headline-grabbing $4.3 million property purchase last week, finding 36% saying it had worsened their view of him, 4% that it had improved it, and 52% that it had no impact. The poll was conducted Friday to Sunday from a sample of 1034.

I have also yet to make note of last week’s Roy Morgan result, which should be superseded later today. It recorded a tie on two-party preferred, unchanged on the previous week, from primary votes of Labor 30% (down one-and-a-half), Coalition 37.5% (steady), Greens 14% (up one-and-a-half) and One Nation 6% (up half). As usual, the two-party measure based on 2022 election preferences rather than respondent allocation was more favourable to Labor, putting them ahead 51-49, in from 52-48. The poll was conducted October 7 to 13 from a sample of 1697.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. billie says:
    Tuesday, October 22, 2024 at 9:11 am
    HOUSING
    One strand of thought is that instutions like industry superannuation funds should fund construction of “Build to Rent” properties

    Using superannuation funds for anything except the accumulation for and funding of the beneficial owner’s retirement is illegal. This is called the Sole Purpose Test.

    SUPERANNUATION INDUSTRY (SUPERVISION) ACT 1993 – SECT 62

    Superannuation Trustees can make investment decisions that meet the Sole Purpose Test. They cannot make investment decisions based on political considerations.

  2. the pooed pooper ranting on just reminded me of this great take:

    A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE CONSERVATIVE
    Joe gets up for work and fills his kettle with water to prepare his morning tea. The water is clean because some “tree-hugger” fought for minimum water-quality standards.
    With his first swig, he takes his daily medication. His medicine is safe to take, because some stupid “Commie” fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.
    He prepares his bacon and eggs. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some “girly-man Labor supporter” fought for laws to regulate the meatpacking industry.
    In his morning shower, Joe reaches for the shampoo. His bottle is labelled with each ingredient because some “snowflake” crybaby fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
    Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some “woke wacko” fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
    Joe drives to work in a safe regulated car because “nanny state do-gooders fought for more safety features and standards.
    Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, pension, paternity leave, paid holidays and sick pay because some “union layabouts” fought and died for those working standards.
    Joe hurts himself at work and an ambulance takes him to A&E. He receives free-at-the-point-of-use treatment thanks to some bloody interfering “Labor Prime Minister” who decided to create Medicare.
    Joe gets home and relaxes by listening to the radio. The host reminds everyone that socialists are dangerous and conservatives are trustworthy. He never mentions that the Conservatives have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoyed throughout his day.
    Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government socialists ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”
    Joe lives in blissful ignorance.

  3. Dave
    Joe de Bruyn as the occasional speaker at your graduation- what sort of cheapskate hole is ACU?
    I would have wanted my fees back

  4. I don’t have a problem with Thorpe doing what she did. That’s her cause, it’s a real cause, she’s not bound to show up and play nice for the benefit of a foreign head of state who only has the role by accident of birth anyway. I can see she got international press for it. It makes a lot more sense for her to do than some of her past publicity stunts like the Mardi Gras one which only pissed off potential allies.

    The Washington Post poll of US swing state registered voters is interesting – while I always take issues polling with large grains of salt, of the 12 issues listed, climate change ended up being last. I get that America has rather a lot going on in this election, and “threats to democracy in the US” ranked second because both Democrat voters (justified) and Republican voters (delusional) claim their opponent is a threat to democracy, but it’s a reminder once again of how climate change action really needs to capitalize on windows where voters are pretty happy about their circumstances and willing to see it prioritized, and you can’t take these for granted.

    The WaPo poll state breakdowns would see Kamala winning 271-267: holding Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, losing Michigan but saving the day by winning Georgia instead. If that’s how it goes down these pollsters have made their reputations.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/c585330e-1449-4c43-8d8d-c830cd8d6124.pdf

  5. In the end, if people insist on killing themselves quietly with cancer industry
    products and other people are not harmed (secondary smoke) who cares?
    The only thing is that they should pay fully for their own treatment,
    I mean you can’t fix stupid, otherwise, zero people would vote for the orange pee fiend…

    “Kids Are Ditching Cigarettes and Using Nicotine Pouches Instead ”

    https://gizmodo.com/kids-are-ditching-cigarettes-and-using-nicotine-pouches-instead-2000514631

  6. Albanese needs to honour Prabawo with a visit asap.
    After Xi and Trump, Prabawo is the single most important individual to Australia’s national interests.

  7. Eddy:

    Monday, October 21, 2024 at 10:03 pm

    “If as it seems Thorpe’s goal was to highlight the plight of First Nations people to an international audience, she succeeded:”

    [‘Mavis, as I noted in an earlier post, her intention was less about attacking good King Chuck (who took it in in good grace) but more about using the opportunity to put forward her cause for treaty to an international audience. And she succeeded and good on her.

    The more I hear people here criticising her and wishing she would go away, the more I warm to her.’]

    I’m with you on this one. With the Voice referendum, we had a clear choice to settle some of the issues affecting First Nations
    people, but driven by an opportunistic LOTO, we miserably failed. I’ve always thought that FN’s people should be more
    vocal in their efforts to redress racism & their underprivilged status. Thorpe’s actions before the King was a good start.

  8. Old mate Belinda Neal in the papers again.
    Finally, after 6 goes, Belinda got on the board of Amnesty last year.
    However, elected officials are excluded from being board members and it was expected that she would resign when she was elected to the Central Coast Council.
    BUT “No is not a word for Princesses” and she is refusing to go. An extraordinary meeting is now being called to have her removed.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/expulsion-drama-engulfs-the-principled-people-at-amnesty-international-20241021-p5kk0o.html

  9. Dave, I’ll take your old Joe de Bruyn and raise you a young Peter Malinauskas.

    ‘Malinauskas worked for Woolworths for seven years from 1995 at age 15, first as a trolley boy and later a checkout operator and night filler. He formed an early and enduring political relationship with Don Farrell through Woolworths workers’ unionism. During his time at Woolworths, Malinauskas obtained a Bachelor of Commerce at the University of Adelaide. He became an influential union official who served from 2008 to 2015 as Secretary of the South Australian/Northern Territory branch of the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees’ Association’

    And I’ll toss in a young Josh Peak, the Secretary of the “shoppies” union, who has been elected as president of the Australian Labor Party in South Australia.

    Josh Peak started working at Foodland when he was 15, became a SDA organiser, served on the Australian Council of Trade Unions Executive from 2009-2015 and is a member of the Australian Labor Party National Executive.

    The SDA have moved on from Joe de Bruyn‘s social conservatism.

  10. West Aus reports today WA Treasurer refusing to endorse Federal treasurer claim inflation has peaked.
    Hmmm WA is driving up inflation big time due to Albo splurge.

  11. Thorpe says she had written to the King several times about the plight of FN’s people. He failed to reply, whereas he would reply via a conduit if he received a letter extolling, for example, the virtues of the monarchy, probably enclosing a pic of himself.
    The remains of Aboriginal bones & artifacts should be returned
    forthwith, in the knowledge that Britain spent a small fortune
    in finding the body of Richard III and affording him a funeral.

  12. Re Lidia Thorpe

    She’s just a grandstander who does absolutely nothing for the causes she promotes: indeed, she is no doubt counter-productive for them.

    The sensible Indigenous leaders realise that now is not the time for carrying on about how nasty colonists took their land and, by rights, they should give lots of it back and also spend lots more money on various well-intentioned programs that don’t seem to deliver much in the way of outcomes (eg, how much has the millions of dollars of expenditure on trying to reduce crime and incarceration rates for young Indigenous men achieved?)

    They understand that this political strategy has been swept away by the result of the Voice referendum, which (a la the work of the American philosopher Thomas Kuhn) we might describe as a “paradigm shift.” I don’t think there is a hope in hell that even close to a majority of Australians will ever want to go back to that old paradigm. The ever-rising proportion of the population who are first and second generation migrants – and who do not share the guilty feelings of many Anglo-Celt Australians – are generally not going to be interested in it.

    What non-Indigenous Australians will possibly buy is a more positive message: let’s work towards a treaty in which Australian governments provide a lot of resources to Indigenous communities to assist them to take responsibility for making a better go of it than they currently do: particularly in remote areas where White society is never going to provide sufficient employment opportunities. I see that there is some internal disputation currently going on within the Noongar community re the Noongar Settlement, but hopefully that can be sorted out, as I think the Settlement is a promising model for a national approach to Makarrata and a treaty. As I see it, it’s a deal in which – on a one time basis – Indigenous people will be provided with substantial resources that they can use to close the gap. But, after that, closing the gap becomes their responsiblity, not that of the rest of the community.

    I would expect that Lidia Thorpe’s view of the Noongar Settlement would be similar to that of its critics within the Noongar community: that it’s a sellout, that Indigenous peoples need to keep demanding the moon and the stars until the end of time, etc. But how do they think they are ever going to get that sort of outcome? Certainly not by persuading a majority of the Australian population to agree with them. It’s all about making the perfect the enemy of the good: ie, you can take the girl out of the Greens but not vice versa.

  13. Mavis: “Britain spent a small fortune
    in finding the body of Richard III and affording him a funeral.”
    ——————————————————————————-
    Wasn’t his body found under a car park by an amateur? That’s how it played out in the movie I watched a few years back.

    While watching the movie, I was relieved that his body was lying under a pissy little carpark rather than one of those big multi-storey council carparks, because that would have been the wrong place for him on so many levels.

  14. Kevin Bonham@kevinbonham
    Essential Primaries not on the same scale as other polls because undecided left in. ALP 28 L-NP 35 Green 12 ON 7 UAP 2 Ind/other 9 undecided 6
    Their “2PP+” L-NP leads 48-46 (=51.1, up 2.1)
    My last election est 50-50 (LNP up 2.6)

  15. Forelock-tugging is passé. What’s now required is more militancy by those untowardly affected by systemic racism. I liken Thorpe to Boudica, Consort of the King of the Iceni.

  16. ‘Mavis says:
    Tuesday, October 22, 2024 at 10:16 am

    Thorpe says she had written to the King several times about the plight of FN’s people. He failed to reply, whereas he would reply via a conduit if he received a letter extolling, for example, the virtues of the monarchy, probably enclosing a pic of himself.
    The remains of Aboriginal bones & artifacts should be returned
    forthwith, in the knowledge that Britain spent a small fortune
    in finding the body of Richard III and affording him a funeral.’
    ==========================
    I don’t know anything about Thorpes’ correspondence or the King’s SOP with respect to correspondence.

    The notion that the King would want to meet with a random senator is an interesting one but not all that important. The standard is that Kings do business with governments and not individuals who self-appoint as being representative of some group or other.

    Indigenous skeletons should be returned as a matter of principle.

    This is already happening in a scattergun sort of way. The main problem I have with the current process is that it is institution by institution rather than as a national project led by the government of the UK. Ducking and weaving, ducking and weaving.

    Some institutions are baulking. Others are doing the right thing.

    Artefacts should be returned on a default basis unless there is compelling evidence that they were obtained through either fair trade or that fair payment was made.

  17. ‘Holdenhillbilly says:
    Tuesday, October 22, 2024 at 10:30 am

    CommSec@CommSec
    Consumers’ inflation expectations for the 2-year ahead period dropped 0.1 percentage points last week to 4.5%, its lowest reading since late 2021.
    https://x.com/CommSec/status/1848495934906503490
    ==================
    This is actually a figure that the Reserve Bank looks at when grotting around in the entrails.

  18. “ Mavis: “Britain spent a small fortune
    in finding the body of Richard III and affording him a funeral.”
    ——————————————————————————-
    Wasn’t his body found under a car park by an amateur? That’s how it played out in the movie I watched a few years back.

    While watching the movie, I was relieved that his body was lying under a pissy little carpark rather than one of those big multi-storey council carparks, because that would have been the wrong place for him on so many levels.”

    meher baba, I hope you haven’t been getting your history from that Tudor tool Shakespeare, who spewed ableist propaganda commissioned by Queen Lizzie I.

  19. @meher – I should clarify that I don’t think Thorpe will achieve anything with her grandstanding, but I think it’s her right to do so. Much has been said of rights to protest of late, and hers was not violent and at least aimed at disrupting a fair target unlike the Mardi Gras protest, so if that’s what she wants to do, fair enough, I don’t have to agree with her or her methods.

    Like I have no problem with Brighton NIMBYs wanting to protest Jacinta Allan. If they want to front up and be self-demonstrating articles as to why the government needs to override local communities on housing to get shit done for the greater good, they can be my guest.

    It reminds me of a former boss in a law firm I worked in who would read the paper and decry left wing criticism of property developers etc and restriction of property developer donations and all that jazz, and then as soon as there was a development proposed in his actual street he’s writing submissions to council and rallying neighbours to oppose “greedy property developers” who would “destroy the amenity of our neighbourhood” – read, build units in a street of McMansions.

  20. Mavis: “Forelock-tugging is passé. What’s now required is more militancy by those untowardly affected by systemic racism. I liken Thorpe to Boudica, Consort of the King of the Iceni.”
    ——————————————————————————–
    As I recall, Boudica (or Boadicea as I was taught to call her) ended up poisoning herself.

    Whereas Thorpe poisons her cause.

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t care that she told Charles to F___ off or whatever it was. He’s a big boy and I’m sure he can handle that. I just think that it’s pretty clear that it’s always all about her.

  21. billie says:
    Tuesday, October 22, 2024 at 9:11 am
    HOUSING
    One strand of thought is that instutions like industry superannuation funds should fund construction of “Build to Rent” properties

    In the USA “Build to Rent” properties have been consolidated into a few large players who now they control the market have jacked up the rents

    ——————————————.

    Of course the government could build them. But we know Labor prefers business to do it.
    When we had a social democratic Labor government during November 2007 to June 2010:

    ‘When then prime minister Kevin Rudd wanted more homes built after the 2008 financial crisis, he gave $6bn to state public housing agencies, creating our last public housing construction boom.

    When we need homes for the military, we have the Defence Housing Authority build new homes where and when they are needed.

    The Housing Australia Future Fund could have spent a fraction of those funds on buying approved but stalled housing projects.
    Lendlease last year sold a portfolio of 27,600 undeveloped new housing lots in existing estates. These could have been bought by the HAFF and fast-tracked for social housing. Instead, those ready-to-go housing lots were bought by another developer with the same interests in drip-feeding new homes to maximise their returns rather than minimise housing prices.’

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/21/why-does-big-business-want-australia-to-spend-billions-on-not-building-houses?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Labor prefers to support developers maximise their profits than helping Australians into homes.

    And these developers may donate to Labor for its reelection campaign.

    With Labor’s policy of over 1 million new immigrants since elected in May 2022, they should have done similar to Rudd – maybe $12billion to the States for public housing.
    But policies like Rudd suggested made him a target for removal by Labor’s Faceless Men in June 2010. How would Labor create a surplus with such wilful spending – $6billion for Australian homes?

    And we need to look how successful the HAFF has been. From the AFR:

    https://www.afr.com › residential
    HAFF tender to build just 700 homes this year
    16 Sept 2024 — Just 700 new social and affordable homes will be built this financial year by the $10 billion Housing Australia Future Fund, …

    Another Labor failure.

  22. Eddy: “meher baba, I hope you haven’t been getting your history from that Tudor tool Shakespeare, who spewed ableist propaganda commissioned by Queen Lizzie I.”
    ——————————————————————————-
    Interesting question. Is it “ableist” to portray someone as being disabled who probably wasn’t particularly?

    I suppose it might be considered to be a form of cultural appropriation by proxy.

  23. meher baba:

    Tuesday, October 22, 2024 at 10:26 am

    Mavis: “Britain spent a small fortune
    in finding the body of Richard III and affording him a funeral.”
    ——————————————————————————-
    [‘Wasn’t his body found under a car park by an amateur? That’s how it played out in the movie I watched a few years back.’]

    Yes, it was. I was employing a little artistic flare to make my point that while Richard III was buried with pomp & circumstance, the remains of FN’s people are in museums for visitors to gawk at. The Queen would’ve have attended the funeral but was otherwise engaged, sending her daughter-in-law, Sophie, the Countess of Wessex.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5feYMBfLV9s

  24. Why do bad faith commenters keep repeating this baseless lie:

    With Labor’s policy of over 1 million new immigrants since elected in May 2022

    Don’t bother replying it’s a rhetorical question and I know the answer. 😐

  25. I thought we celebrated larrikins- those that stand up to tyranny, injustice, the landed gentry, fought for the little man?

    Just not if they are female or black.

    No minority has ever gained a thing by being ‘moderate’, quiet, negotiating behind the scenes- look at Mardi Gras, Stonewall, Davidson dying under the royal horse etc…

    We did everything by the book on ‘The Voice’- politely asked for next to nothing and royally got kicked in the teeth for our efforts.

  26. Boerwar:

    Tuesday, October 22, 2024 at 10:37 am

    [‘The notion that the King would want to meet with a random senator is an interesting one but not all that important. The standard is that Kings do business with governments and not individuals who self-appoint as being representative of some group or other.’]

    The protocol would’ve been for Charles to reply to Thorpe, saying something along the lines that while he had empathy for
    her position, he could not do anything himself and would pass
    the correspondence on to the prime minister. That said, Charles, at least when the Prince of Wales, wasn’t exactly a wallflower when it came to being political, sending, for instance, a letter of comfort to Kerr, among a number of other political acts. Town doth beckon.

  27. A scaled-back Commonwealth Games in Glasgow will feature just 10 events, with several prominent sports being culled. Games organisers confirmed on Tuesday the event list for the 2026 event, which will be held in Scotland from Thursday, July 23 to Sunday, August 2.
    The slimmed-down program has axed diving, badminton, beach volleyball, cricket, road cycling and mountain biking, rhythmic gymnastics, hockey, rugby sevens, squash, table tennis and para table tennis, triathlon and para triathlon, and wrestling from the Birmingham 2022 Games.
    In 2026, Glasgow will host athletics and para athletics, swimming and para swimming, artistic gymnastics, track cycling and para track cycling, netball, weightlifting and para powerlifting, boxing, judo, lawn bowls and para bowls, 3×3 basketball and 3×3 wheelchair basketball.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-22/glasgow-2026-commonwealth-games-to-host-10-sports/104496142

  28. meher baba, I liked your joke about the car park on so many levels. Please keep them coming.

    By the way, as it turned out, Richard III did have a severely curved spine.

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